Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread John Sturdy
I've seen such a station powered by solar panels on its roof; I didn't investigate whether it has internal batteries for use outside of sunlight hours, but it might be worth adding a tag for the power source for cases like that. On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM bkil wrote: > This is what you are

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-25 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 01:23:35 +0100 Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 23:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 04:53, Paul Allen wrote: > > > >> Having power_supply=yes indicates that the socket type is unknown, > >> > > > > But wouldn't that default as

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.06.2019 um 21:15 schrieb François Lacombe : > > It's more fun to use socket=* than power_supply:socket_type=* since the only > important word is "socket". > Power_supply comes in another tag and _type doesn't bring any additionnal > information. +1 Cheers,

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 18:26, Philip Barnes wrote: > On camp sites in the UK and France the hook-up is a CEE 17 blue > single-phase in my experience. > I think that's what the UK wiring regs mandate for new installations. And have done for many years. But there may be older installations

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-23 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2019-06-22 at 01:23 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 23:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick < > graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 04:53, Paul Allen > > wrote: > > > > > Having power_supply=yes indicates that the socket type is > > > unknown, > > > > But

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-23 Thread François Lacombe
Thanks for answer Le dim. 23 juin 2019 à 14:20, Paul Allen a écrit : > On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 13:01, François Lacombe > wrote: > >> >> Le dim. 23 juin 2019 à 13:49, Paul Allen a écrit : >> >>> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 02:02, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Aircraft too can have an

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 13:40, François Lacombe wrote: > > Le dim. 23 juin 2019 à 14:20, Paul Allen a écrit : > >> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 13:01, François Lacombe >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Le dim. 23 juin 2019 à 13:49, Paul Allen a écrit : >>> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 02:02, Warin

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-23 Thread Jan S
Am 23. Juni 2019 14:16:43 MESZ schrieb Paul Allen : >Mapping a GPU would be like mapping a tractor on a farm. It's not >sensible >because it moves. Wouldn't it make sense then to tag it with the airport or airstrip and indicate the connector/voltage/etc for the entire facility?

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 02:02, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Aircraft too can have an external electrical power connection. > Aircraft power is rather specialized. Three phase 115 VAC @ 400 Hz and/or 28 VDC (14 VDC for some light aircraft). The connectors are rather specialized too.

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Warin
On 22/06/19 19:16, Colin Smale wrote: On 2019-06-22 10:20, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: I've found this Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should also make a difference between shore power and

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 02:28, marc marc wrote: socket key is probably the most successful but for charging stations, > the information is missing if it is a plug or a plug at the end of a > cable on the terminal side. > Terminology gets messy. Different parts of the world and different

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 01:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Wow, what a nightmare! > Yep. New tag needed: nightmare=*. Here, if a camping ground / caravan park has power to a site, it will be a > standard layout Oz plug, but rated at 15A, not 10, so you will need a 15A > lead to connect to it,

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-22 10:20, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: > I've found this Wikipedia page: > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower > > There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should > also make a difference between shore power and power supply for other

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I've found this Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorepower There is no shore power tag in OSM yet. But now I'm uncertain if we should also make a difference between shore power and power supply for other uses. Am Fr., Juni 21, 2019 at 14:21 schrieb Michael Brandtner via

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-22 Thread bkil
This is what you are looking for, it has been used 160 times: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Ddevice_charging_station Although, I'd probably just unify this with amenity=charging_station and always specify the socket type and voltage. You should only navigate to a charging

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Warin
On 22/06/19 11:24, marc marc wrote: waiting areas often have specific locations to charge electronic devices. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aamenity%3Ddevice_charging_station > amenity=charging_station <> amenity=power_supply some normal electrical outlets allow cars to be

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread marc marc
> waiting areas often have specific locations > to charge electronic devices. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aamenity%3Ddevice_charging_station > amenity=charging_station <> amenity=power_supply some normal electrical outlets allow cars to be charged and some charging terminals use

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I agree that amenity=power_supply is useful for features that provide free or paid access to an electrical outlet. Another place where this would be useful is in airports and train stations, where the waiting areas often have specific locations to charge electronic devices. There might be some

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Wow, what a nightmare! Here, if a camping ground / caravan park has power to a site, it will be a standard layout Oz plug, but rated at 15A, not 10, so you will need a 15A lead to connect to it, but that's it! Thanks Graeme On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 10:27, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 23:56, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 04:53, Paul Allen wrote: > >> Having power_supply=yes indicates that the socket type is unknown, >> > > But wouldn't that default as the country you're in? If you're in Britain, > it's a British socket, so you

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 04:53, Paul Allen wrote: > Having power_supply=yes indicates that the socket type is unknown, > But wouldn't that default as the country you're in? If you're in Britain, it's a British socket, so you need a "British" plug (or an International adaptor!) to plug in, in

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 21:15, François Lacombe wrote: > Le ven. 21 juin 2019 à 20:44, Colin Smale a écrit : > >> There is also this tagging scheme for the same thing: >> >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket >> Now how did that happen??? > It's more fun to use socket=* than

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 19:44, Colin Smale wrote: > There is also this tagging scheme for the same thing: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket Now how did that happen??? It arose via a different route, supporting amenity=charging_station. We probably need to harmonize the

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread François Lacombe
Le ven. 21 juin 2019 à 20:44, Colin Smale a écrit : > > There is also this tagging scheme for the same thing: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket > > Now how did that happen??? > It's more fun to use socket=* than power_supply:socket_type=* since the only important word is

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Valor Naram via Tagging
> Looks good to me, except that the tag name should really be something like "power_supply:socket_type" rather than the over-generic "power_supply".+1___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Le ven. 21 juin 2019 à 16:18, Philip Barnes a écrit : > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:49 +0200, Jan S wrote: > > Would such a tag fit for e-car charging stations, too, or can we > > already tag those? These charging stations basically provide > > electricity for money, too, don't they? > We

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 19:00, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-21 18:33, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote: > >> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard >> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 19:57, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-21 18:33, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote: > > When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard > such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 18:33, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote: > >> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard >> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not >> for the plug; some combinations have a

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Friday, 21 June 2019, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2019-06-21 14:18, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: > > > I'm thinking about (and in fact, have already used about two times) a new > > tag: _amenity=power_supply_. It is meant for mapping places where you can > > get electrical power for a

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 21. Juni 2019 um 18:06 Uhr schrieb Colin Smale < colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>: > When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard > such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not > for the plug; some combinations have a measure of

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 at 17:06, Colin Smale wrote: > When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard > such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not > for the plug; some combinations have a measure of cross-compatibility, and > you don't want

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 18:14, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Fr., 21. Juni 2019 um 18:06 Uhr schrieb Colin Smale > : > >> When it comes to tagging the socket type, please use an existing standard >> such as the IEC type letters. Make sure to use the code for the socket, not >> for the plug; some

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-06-21 14:18, Michael Brandtner via Tagging wrote: > I'm thinking about (and in fact, have already used about two times) a new > tag: _amenity=power_supply_. It is meant for mapping places where you can get > electrical power for a fee. They can be found at camping grounds and >

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 21. Juni 2019 um 17:09 Uhr schrieb Jan S : > > > If these sockets are typically located at caravan parking spots in > campgrounds, wouldn't it be sufficient to add a sub-tag to the proposed tag > tourism=camp_pitch? Btw, voting for that tag is underway until 28 June > here: >

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Jan S
Am 21. Juni 2019 16:29:02 MESZ schrieb Michael Brandtner via Tagging : >The sub-tag does already exist, I've linked to it in my original post >(power_supply=). What doesn't exist is a main tag for tagging isolated >columns for power supply. >This image shows what I'm talking about:

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
The sub-tag does already exist, I've linked to it in my original post (power_supply=). What doesn't exist is a main tag for tagging isolated columns for power supply. This image shows what I'm talking about:

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:49 +0200, Jan S wrote: > > Am 21. Juni 2019 15:25:06 MESZ schrieb Philip Barnes < > p...@trigpoint.me.uk>: > > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 16:07 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > > > Guess it could be the same as fuel stations/hotels etc with extra > > > amenities: high-level tagging

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Jan S
Am 21. Juni 2019 15:25:06 MESZ schrieb Philip Barnes : >On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 16:07 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: >> Guess it could be the same as fuel stations/hotels etc with extra >> amenities: high-level tagging on the whole campsite pitch with a sub >> tag, or nodes on actual power sockets for

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 16:07 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > Guess it could be the same as fuel stations/hotels etc with extra > amenities: high-level tagging on the whole campsite pitch with a sub > tag, or nodes on actual power sockets for more detail. The position is useful information, you may need

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Anton Klim
Guess it could be the same as fuel stations/hotels etc with extra amenities: high-level tagging on the whole campsite pitch with a sub tag, or nodes on actual power sockets for more detail. пт, 21 июн. 2019 г. в 15:46, Philip Barnes : > On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:33 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > > I

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 21.06.2019 um 14:18 schrieb Michael Brandtner via Tagging > : > > I'm thinking about (and in fact, have already used about two times) a new > tag: amenity=power_supply. It is meant for mapping places where you can get > electrical power for a fee. They can be found at

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2019-06-21 at 15:33 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > I am surprised this is not something that exists already (or is > it?)Wouldn't limit it to caravans though, would be equally useful for > those looking to charge electronics or power a tool of some sort. > Or is that power_supply? > Certainly

Re: [Tagging] Idea for a new tag: amenity=power_supply

2019-06-21 Thread Anton Klim
I am surprised this is not something that exists already (or is it?) Wouldn't limit it to caravans though, would be equally useful for those looking to charge electronics or power a tool of some sort. Or is that power_supply? Ant пт, 21 июн. 2019 г. в 15:22, Michael Brandtner via Tagging <