Nick, in my case, I am working extra hard to DITCH FOR GOOD Windows screen
readers! I'm going to start running with touchscreen phones and tabletsw!
No, I won't ever spend an extra cent on the purchase of Jaws!
As for NVDA, I will consider donating my widower's mite to its developers
for purpos
No NVDA is not better then Jaws.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 11:33 PM
To: Bryan Peterson; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Chris Skarstad
Subject: Re: No future; Wi
Of course, tat bill that you mentioned, will not survive the senate, and
while they won't admit it, Republican legislators are afraid to repeal
"Obama Care.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled list serve.
On 5/8/2017 1:57 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
> It always amazes me when smart folks (
Can you honestly say NVDA is better than Jaws? While I don't believe
anyone who says yes, I am also genuinely asking, because I have never
used either, but I am also convinced that those who would prefer NVDA
over Jaws (financial issues notwithstanding) are cutting off their noses
to spite thei
Can you honestly say NVDA is better than Jaws? While I don't believe
anyone who says yes, I am also genuinely asking, because I have never
used either, but I am also convinced that those who would prefer NVDA
over Jaws (financial issues notwithstanding) are cutting off their noses
to spite thei
I'll join you with this.
Best.
Vaughan.
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 3:24 p.m.
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Bryan Peterson
Subject
My prediction is, that all the anti-Jaws folks will eventually realize
that the honeymoon with NVDA will be over, and they will end up
purchasing Jaws despite their vitriol.
On 5/8/2017 6:51 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> Why do you not like NVDA?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From:
Hi Tom,
Until you find which program the set file is associated with, you might want to
restore it to the profiles folder.
If you have deleted it permanently, just make a copy of any set file, and
rename it to the name of the file being asked for.
Hth,
Rod
-Original Message-
From: Tal
i don't know where these settings are but there is an option to increase how
long the notifications stay on the screen. from 5 seconds to 5 minutes. maybe
if you increase this time w e will speak them.
-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 11:17 PM
Hi mine is speeking notifications okay.
cheers.
-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 11:17 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Windows Creator Question
Hi,
I am using the latest version of Window-Eyes.
Window-Eyes is not speaking windows notific
because a running program is still associated with the set file you deleted.
-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 3:54 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Window-Eyes Error
I recently removed AVG from my computer in order to explore other a
Oh I never said I didn't like it. It's just not my favorite. Things just
don't seem as simple to do as they have been with WE. I also can't seem to
get Eloquence to work with it properly. It's not my favorite voice in terms
of quality but its response time is still just about the quickest I've
I recently removed AVG from my computer in order to explore other antivirus
programs. As a result, I no longer needed the avg.set file I created. Thus, I
deleted it. Now, Window-Eyes tells me that the file is not a valid set file and
can’t be loaded. Of course, it is not valid because I deleted
Personally: not having been a great fan of JAWS for years, but feeling that
Window-eyes could no longer meet my requirements, I've been happy to review my
thinking about JAWS.
Since running it exclusively for just over a month, I have concluded that
aspects of it make JAWS to be a more powerful
Why do you not like NVDA?
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:40 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
I'm a
Well that's the big question, isn't it? I would say
yes because the latest update didn't come out very long ago, but
Window-eyes updates weren't as frequent as JAWS ones are these days.
Whatever will happen probably won't be for a good while yet, so just
based on an educated
I'm afraid you're most likely right. NVDA is by no means my favorite screen
reader but I've had to use it with MSWord since getting Windows 10 so I may
as well get used to using it for other things. I absolutely despise JAWS and
so I refuse to go back to it, so that means NVDA.
-Original M
So is it true that window-eyes is no longer being developed?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 6:31 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
I suspect certain people at VFO feel the exact same
I suspect certain people at VFO feel the exact same way
about Window-eyes.
Unfortunately, Window-eyes has always been kind of seen as the underdog,
whereas JAWS is the more popular option. The most popular doesn't
always mean better, but when you're dealing with money, that's what
Agreed. I hate to do it, but it's heading that way.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:27 PM
To: Darrell Bowles via Talk
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
That is why I
That is why I plan to uninstall the window-eyes for office offer since it won’t
be improved much longer.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 6:20 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
Yes, I
Yes, I know this.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:06 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Vaughan Dodd
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
Magic's death is
Magic's death is coming and it's deserved. That software is a joke. Vfo
selling we sma's means nothing. Of course they'll take your money. You're
not gonna get what you paid for but it's your money. Most likely sma
holders will get discounted jfw offered. I've never seen so many people
determined
i also started out with window-eyes, using a speak-out synth.
i also used megadots, vocal-eyes, and windows 3.11.
-Original Message-
From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD,Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 5:01 PM
To: 'Joseph Norton' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE:
I began learning to work with computers on my own in 1992; my first screen
reader and synthesizer were purchased with my own funds from E V A S in
Rhode Island. I had not known that I could have made a purchase right here
in my village through Beyond Sight, Inc. which initially was Second Sight.
I
Simply copy the entire contents of the Windoweyes DVD to the thumb drive.
When you insert the thumb drive, you will likely have to go manually run the
setup program.
Scott
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+scott=crackedwheat@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Matthe
Hi, Folks. I'm getting a new Dell Latitude E7470. It has no DVD/CD-ROM
drive. How do I make an installation thumb drive to do the same thing
as the DVD? Thanks.--Matthew Chao
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Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of
Yes. Had that contract gone through, Window-Eyes would have been at the
top.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1:51 PM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion L
That is totally correct.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Futu
Yep.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:24 PM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Future Of Window-Eyes
So GWMicro did have a cont
So GWMicro did have a contract with the federal and state government?
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eye
Yes: but have they developed Magic?
Vaughan.
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 7:50 a.m.
To: aist...@ameritech.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: No fut
GW Micro, Window-Eyes developer, had GSA--General Service Administration
contract--which ought to have guaranteed to it enough business for a long,
long time.
But when agencies of government, both federal and state, chewed Jaws and
fell in love, Hinter-Joyce, later Freedom Scientific, just gobbl
It would be awesome to have Humanware take Window-Eyes over. In fact, VFO
might as well hand over Window-Eyes to Humanware.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Adaptive Information Systems Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08,
Since obtaining ZoomText, they haven't scrapped Magic.
- Original Message -
From: Adaptive Information Systems Inc. via Talk
To: 'Peter Duran' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!
Hi Peter,
Why not
What saddens me about all this, is that my answer to your question is this:
Because JAWS is touted as the number one screen reader, and as much as I
don't like it, unless a miracle happens, VFO isn't going to keep them both
going when they have in their view, the number one screen reader. N
Hi Peter,
Why not two screen readers from VFO.
Many other companies in the real world have more than one brand of products
in their offerings, why not Window-eyes which is far better than the other
brand VFO sells.
Also if Window-eyes is dead like so many speculate, VFO had no issues in
selling
Yes, but the next release JAWS will power it instead of WE.
- Original Message -
From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
To: Reeva Webb ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes
That brings another interesting question up, wil
I got mine in May or June of 1998 from Ferguson enterprises in South Dakota?
Maybe!
Have a great day!
Bob Hicks
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+bob=seeinghandassociation@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1:04 P
I didn't say that window-eyes would survive. And didn't I already say that
JAWS, NVDA and narrator are left on the windows platform?
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1
It always amazes me when smart folks (like on this list) prefer a fanticy
instead of reality. There is absolutely no reason for Window-Eyes to continue
and compete with JFW. Why would they do that?
There are 3 options to check out: Narrator on Windows 10, NVDA, and VoiceOver.
So, get real and
If it is an issue of protected mode, no screen reader will work with it.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1:37 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Su
that sure brings back memories! for sure!
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
WB6HEF
San Bernardino, CA
On Mon, 8 May 2017 13:03:59 -0400
Joseph Norton via Talk wrote:
> Hi listers:
>
> I just want to say that, whatever the future of Window-Eyes, its been a
> great 18 yearsat least, by June of this ye
I, too, sometimes find that cells will not read and find that alt tabbing away
and back will usingally fix this for me. For me, the symptom is that nothing
is reading, not just when I press F2 though. The protected worksheet question
is a good one to ask.
-Original Message-
From:
When JAWS is constantly marketed to all the agencies, schools, and other
markets as the number 1 product, naturally people will go for it. I say
that, because I tried demos of window-eyes, and JAWS before I purchased my
first screen reader, which happened to be, you guessed it, JAWS. It cam
The cause of death, was unfair business practices by its Competitor
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1:11 PM
To: 'Kevin Barry' ; 'Window-Eyes
That really is a blast from the past. I was primarily a JAWS user back
then, but thought it was really cool that Ronnie Milsap did that cool
little welcome message.
On 5/8/2017 1:03 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote:
Hi listers:
I just want to say that, whatever the future of Window-Eyes, i
Kevin wrote in part:
"I paid for 3SMA's, and have only used one. I expect value. Or else I expect
my money to be refunded."
That could be a hit-&-miss! Do you have a copy of the SMA contract? Does
it stipulate that you can get a refund of an unused portion? And, since the
company has gone BEL
Yes, even though window eyes had the same governmental thing that Freedom
Scientific had for jaws. But nobody seemed to know about
it. Maybe I didn't use the correct word, but I hope you know what I mean.
Pam.
-Original Message-
From: Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 8
Hi listers:
I just want to say that, whatever the future of Window-Eyes, it’s been a great
18 years—at least, by June of this year, it’ll have been around 18 years since
I bought Window-Eyes.
And, for those of you who weren’t using WE back then, here’s a link to an
interesting sound file.
Th
The next upgrade of Fusion, will be powered by JAWS from what I hear.
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 8:33 AM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Futu
That brings another interesting question up, will zoom text fusion still
survive?
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 8, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk
> wrote:
>
> Yep, magic is a joke and fs always knew it was. Is vfo gonna come and take
> we off your pc? No. Realistically, i wouldn't expe
Yep, magic is a joke and fs always knew it was. Is vfo gonna come and take
we off your pc? No. Realistically, i wouldn't expect any meaningful updates
to we from here on out. Vfo bought ai2 for zoomtext straight up. Actually
'cause i'm bored i'm gonna give them a call and ask about my we version o
Zoomtext is defenatly superior to MAGic for sure!
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 7:03 AM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes
That's because Zoom text is superior to magic, and everybody knows it.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 8, 2017, at 9:56 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk
> wrote:
>
> The VFO group got ZoomText out of the deal.
>
> -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 4:08 P
The VFO group got ZoomText out of the deal.
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 4:08 PM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Future Of Window-Eyes
Many times, a company will buy out another just to get its user base.
Sent from Mail
Assuming what was reported is the truth, and since it came from Erick Damery, I
have no doubt of it, yes, that's what that means. JAWS will work with it, and
NVDA works with it to some extent.
Narrator of course, also works with it.
Thanks,
Darrell
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:t
With no future development of Window-Eyes, that means window-eyes will never
work with the Edge browser?
-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 1:56 PM
To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: Future Of Window-Eyes
Vaughan,
NVDA and
I will look in to it, and get back to you.
Thanks,
Darrell
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 9:17 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Windows Creator Quest
In my case, NVDA doesn't do everything I do with window-eyes. When using my
tripleTalk with NVDA, it doesn't support indexing.
-Original Message-
From: Bryan Peterson via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 11:17 AM
To: Darrell Bowles ; Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Futur
Hi,
I am using the latest version of Window-Eyes.
Window-Eyes is not speaking windows notifications.
This has been going on since I upgraded to the Creator edition.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Thanks,
Pastor Gil
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Any views or opinions presented
IN the end, the VFO group won the battle! Everyone will be forced to use
jaws or nvda. My question is, when does the MS Office support end?
-Original Message-
From: Michael Capelle via Talk
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 8:44 AM
To: Reeva Webb ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Darrell Bowle
Hi Ivan,
There is no point. People just like to talk to feel in control of a situation
when the absence of information scares them.
Live long and prosper, in the absence of control,
Rod
-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
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