When Windows 10 first came out, I had problems coming out of sleep mode,
but I haven't had any problems with sleep mode for over 6 months now.
Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
On 5/9/2016 8:53 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
Am I missing something? When I go to the options for shutting down
Am I missing something? When I go to the options for shutting down or
anything else for that matter, I don't see an option for hibernation,
only sleep. I didn't even see that one in Windows 8.1.
On 5/8/2016 2:07 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi Don,
I don't remember all the details about
I have the issue with sleep mode on my HP laptop. I have found that the
function of closing the lid thus putting the computer to sleep causes
the problem where if you hit Alt F4 then choose the sleep option and put
the computer to sleep then closing the lid has no issues.
On 5/8/2016 5:39 PM
with my Windows 10 system when I
> came out of sleep. My vocalizer Expressive synth was in slow motion
> and the pitch was very low. So I really couldn't understand anything
> being said. Then I tried redrawing the screen which also resets the
> synth. That solved the problem. Bu
Here's something else you can try, Don.
I had something very strange going on with my Windows 10 system when I
came out of sleep. My vocalizer Expressive synth was in slow motion and
the pitch was very low. So I really couldn't understand anything being
said. Then I tried redrawing the screen
Hi Don,
I don't remember all the details about specific manufacturers, but what
I've seen is that Sleep mode can cause problems with certain device drivers.
Not coming back to life after returning from Sleep.
Instead of Sleep mode, try Hibernation, which switches power off completely,
and see
I am running Window-eyes 9.4 on an HP desktop whose operating system is
Windows 10. The problem I am about to describe is not screen reader
specific, but I am hopeful that some list member may know of a solution.
After this machine has been put into sleep mode, it is difficult to get
I've never had any problems coming out of sleep. And that's over many
years, systems, and sound cards.
And Window-Eyes crashing is so rare for me I can't remember the last
time I used Control-Alt-W.
Regards,
Tom
On 4/20/2016 8:30 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
Doug at Ai Squared says
Doug at Ai Squared says this sleep issue is not a WE problem but a
Driver issue. Which driver he can't say. All I know is the problem did
not exist in WE 9.2 and started with WE 9.3.
On 4/20/2016 6:24 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:
Hi to all,
First of all, thanks to all who sent the short cut
To: Manny; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: WE9.4 becomes corrupt and control alt w does not work coming
backfrom sleep WE9.4 is corrupt!
w e will not talk when the program you are useing crashes. even if you
reload w
e. you have to unload the program first. then w e will start talking again
w e will not talk when the program you are useing crashes. even if you reload w
e. you have to unload the program first. then w e will start talking again.
this happens more often when you have other programs running in the background.
like i e and wlm at the same time.
***
don't use sleep mode
sleep, WE9.4 becomes corrupt and
control alt w does not work.
I rebooted my computer then when WE9.4 started speaking I control alt w
and We9.4 restarted.
I then put my computer to sleep and after awhile I woke the computer and
control alt w did not work.
Something has become corrupt.
I
What I have found is that if you put the computer into sleep mode then
close the lid it will return from sleep working fine. If you just close
the lid to put the computer into sleep mode you have problems.
On 4/1/2016 1:44 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
The ReadMe file, that comes
The ReadMe file, that comes with 9.4.0, asserted the loss of focus problem was
fixed when coming out of Sleep mode, not quite. Often in Word 2010, returning
to an open document doesn't always resume speech output correctly. You need to
either Alt Tab bback and forth, enter and leave the We
Hi Don,
This suggests to me that there is a problem with the driver HP has designed
for the purpose of putting the machine to sleep.
I would simply do what works.
Good luck,
Rod
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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Don't know why this makes a difference but on my HP laptop running
Windows 10 and WE 9.4 if I first put the laptop in sleep mode then close
the lid it seems to recover from sleep mode with WE talking. If you
simply close the lid thus putting it in sleep mode then open the lid WE
has issues
problems.
Tom
On 3/18/2016 3:27 PM, Christopher Edwards via Talk wrote:
Steve,
You might have a point here. I have two laptops, one from Dell and one from
Sony. They both run Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit and I am now running
Window-Eyes 9.4. I have never had any problems coming out of Sleep
John,
I don't use hibernate. But I just googled "Windows 10 hibernate" and got
links to pages showing how to enable it. And I remember after first
installing Windows 10 reading something about sleep being more like
hibernate but not quite.
Hth,
Tom
On 3/18/2016 3:27 PM, John's
Interestingly, I have some of the same problems discussed here when coming
out of sleep mode. Usually, I have found that entering the password even if
Window-Eyes is silent, brings everything back. There are some other issues
that I have once sleep mode has been encountered as well, though, even
The issue here is that there was no problem with sleep mode with WE 9.2.
The problem started with WE 9.3 and continues with 9.4. Should not
have to take extra steps to get WE to work as it did before.
On 3/18/2016 10:13 AM, Carol and Roger wrote:
Hi Don,
You could close WE down completely
You know any reason why windows tenant has done away with hibernate mode? Sleep
mode is nice in that it leaves everything in your work session open but
hibernate did the same thing but shut the computer down. I used hibernate all
the time and never had any trouble coming out of it but sleep
Running WE 9.4 on a Windows 10 64 bit machine on a HP laptop.
I have it set up to go into sleep mode when the lid is closed. With WE
9.3 and now 9.4 WE is silent when opening the lid thus returning from
sleep mode. I reported this issue with WE 9.3 and now with 9.4 and got
no response from
and returning from sleep
This is the problem with the price war. It compels manufacturers to
tinker with everything and cut corners wherever they can on consumer
systems in order to shave pennies here and there to cut their cost, not
to mention all the shareware and trial programs they get paid to put
Steve,
You might have a point here. I have two laptops, one from Dell and one from
Sony. They both run Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit and I am now running
Window-Eyes 9.4. I have never had any problems coming out of Sleep or Hibernate
modes with either of these machines.
Chris
From: Steve
Hello
I have a Word 2010 document open with focus. I put my Windows 7 laptop to
sleep by closing its lid. I lift the lid and press the Enter key (or any
key)to resume Windows operation.
Before WE 9.4.0, focus would be on the WE control panel screen. Now, after the
fix, focus is on the open
It works fine here on Windows 10/64. But it always did.
Tom
On 3/8/2016 12:38 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
WE 9.4 still hangs when trying to return from sleep mode. Running Win
10 64 bit on a HP laptop.
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WE 9.4 still hangs when trying to return from sleep mode. Running Win
10 64 bit on a HP laptop.
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For membership
Hello
When returning from Sleep mode by opening the laptop lid, focus is misplaced.
The focus is on the Window-Eyes control Panel screen instead of the current
application window. Nothing is read of course; focus is regained by Alt
tabbing away from and back to the current application window
That is one of the reasons that I went back to version 9.2 of WE. I
reported this issue to Ai Squared and was told it was no big deal and
would be low on priority list to be resolved.
On 2/16/2016 3:51 AM, michaeel's mail via Talk wrote:
Hi guys people was having trouble with WE after waking
al Message-
From: Rick Thomas [mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com]
Sent: December 24, 2015 6:14 AM
To: 'Rod Hutton' <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep
First Rod, turkey is good.
Now, it is not a problem but just unexpected.
Finally, Amen wit
s.
>
> Take care,
>
> Rod
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Thomas [mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com]
> Sent: December 24, 2015 6:14 AM
> To: 'Rod Hutton' <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep
>
> First Rod, tur
ct: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep
Hi Tom and Rick,
One thing I noticed is that my CapEnhance app can have an effect on the
speaking of caps by toggling my app on and off. On my particular system,
the speaking of caps with pitch change wasn't working properly after my
upgr
'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'net bat'; 'Don H'
Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep
Hi: This problem has seemingly gone away, no lost speech in a couple of days
now.
I have tweaked settings, downloaded a couple of audio / sound drivers so am
not sure which worked if any
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: December 22, 2015 1:19 PM
To: 'Rick Thomas' <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep
Regardi
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Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 6:07 AM
To: 'net bat' <net...@comcast.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Don H' <lmdd...@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from
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Subject: Re: Loss of speech when returning from sleep
its not just sleep mode. i am loosseing speech in wlm and in firefox too.
usually with read to end. sometimes while just typeing a message in wlm.
-
Hi Don,
It's worth considering the possibility that some sound cards can not wake up
properly from sleep.
You could disable automatic entering of sleep mode.
Hth,
Rod
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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Don H via
Hi Don,
I've tried waking up my laptop several times and I'm not having that issue.
Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
On 12/20/2015 5:36 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
Anyone else having a issue of losing speech when your laptop returns
from sleep mode? This has started after installing WE 9.3.1
its not just sleep mode. i am loosseing speech in wlm and in firefox too.
usually with read to end. sometimes while just typeing a message in wlm.
-Original Message-
From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:36 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Loss of speech
Anyone else having a issue of losing speech when your laptop returns
from sleep mode? This has started after installing WE 9.3.1 on my
Windows 10 64 bit laptop.
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WE 9.3 is having a issue of not talking and needing to be reloaded after
returning from sleep mode on a Windows 10 system. Did not have this
issue with WE 9.2. Also as I indicated before using control alt w
reloads but puts you in some mode where you are in the WE UI but not
showing
-bounces+rossmcg=hotkey.net...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'Tom Kingston' <tom.kings...@charter.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: Sleep Mode Situation
Hi Tom: Man you hav
Hi Tom: Man you have been doing this almost as long as I have you old grey
beard!
There have been various postings from the staff off and on on the scripting
list indicating what languages they were working with.
Also, the types of software they use and the implementation indicates a non
ally just so I could waste more time of my life writing something I
know you already know but that wouldn’t be self evident to many others on list.
OK, hope this thread can be put to sleep - smile, pun intended!
I have the problem resolved and others can implement this work-around or not -
their choi
this bloody box
since about 1:30 am, just couldn’t sleep as it were, so perhaps I just posted
a bunch of unrelated words - grin, hope not.
Sort of sorry to think there is another soul awake at this ungodly hour!
Rick USA
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Hi,
Rick Thomas also mentioned this recently.
I have a work pc which goes into sleep any time I'm away from the keyboard for
more than a few minutes, and I have a laptop at home which goes into sleep
frequent to save battery. I am not seeing this.
My only thought was that (assuming you
Subject: Re: sleep
I went and looked in the "optional" list of updates and there was one
graphics adapter listed. I downloaded the update and just now I woke up the
pc and it's working fine. Too soom to tell although, cuz it doesn't happen
everytime the pc sleeps. lol
-Origin
04, 2015 2:38 PM
To: Chip Orange; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sleep Mode Situation
hmmm, I was working on a laptop for a friend, and going out of sleep
mode was a mess, the screen was black to the person and WE would usually
work, but you had to fool with it, maybe hit control and tab
we 9.2 windows 8.1
-Original Message-
From: Chip Orange via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 3:05 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes DiscussionList
Subject: RE: Sleep Mode Situation
What version of WE and what version of Windows?
Chip
Chip Orange
Florida Public
I’ve noticed that since the last batch or so of Windows important updates the
issue with loosing speech after the PC sleeps seems to be happening more
;often...
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Hi Chip: This problem was resolved by setting the sleep setting to never.
I also set the turn off mode to never but I dont think this is necessary.
I dont know from drivers but reading the docs about this problem I found
that there is volatile ram that gets destroyed when the computer goes
Sleep leaves everything in memory and basically just shuts down most of
the hardware, depending on how you've configured things, i.e. what
devices and events will wake the system.
Hybrid sleep leaves everything in memory and also writes it to your hard
drive so it can recover in case
I put my system to sleep a couple times a day and have never had a problem.
Tom
On 10/5/2015 5:46 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
Hi Chip: This problem was resolved by setting the sleep setting to never.
I also set the turn off mode to never but I don’t think this is necessary.
I don’t know
Hi Tom et al:
This problem is going to be very dependent on several factors and some will
experience it, others wont.
For sure it can be caused by volatile memory destruction when the computer goes
into sleep mode and comes back if your programs and, or, your operating system
have put anything
Hi again rick,
I did a quick google on Dell Optiplex windows sleep problem, and the very
top article in the list looks very promising, so I'll post it's link for you
below. If this isn't actually the solution, then I suggest the same google
query to you; it seems quite likely you may hit
Hi Rick,
Just FYI, I myself and many many others use sleep mode all the time in
Windows 7 and 8, without any particular problems.
If you are having problems when you do this, in my opinion it's very likely
to be caused by a driver which doesn't support stopping and restarting its
device properly
Cc: 'Rick Thomas'
Subject: Re: Sleep Mode Situation
hmmm, I was working on a laptop for a friend, and going out of sleep
mode was a mess, the screen was black to the person and WE would usually
work, but you had to fool with it, maybe hit control and tab or shift
tab to get the cursor
Hi Rod:
I got there typing sleep into the start box and picking one of the options.
The Dialog came up with the 2 combo boxes and I set both those puppies to
never.
I think this is a well defined problem and this is another tweak that will
help stabalize WindowEyes so I don't get as many speech
Message? RE: Sleep Mode Situation
Hi Rick,
I'm running Windows 10, and I also have two combo boxes, the first being how
many minutes before the display is turned off, set to ten minutes by default,
and can be left alone.
The second combo box is the number of minutes before the computer g
- did not seem to help too much with automatic
dynamics that may, or not, be related to WindowEyes using the mouse behind
the scenes.
I just turned off sleep mode.
I still get speech drop outs and the occasional lockup most often in
Internet Explorer likely due to how WE responds to various
Hi Rod:
First I have to figure out what to turn off and how:
here is the first article i read on the related subject:
It was for Windows 7 but gives a good overview of 3 states that may need to
be addressed I guess:
I think, I run a Desktop machine, I may have to turn off Hybrid sleep from
OK Rod: I set both the combo box settings to never so never hibernate and
never sleep I guess.
Not what I really want in case I want the machine to power save if I end up
away from it for a lengthly period but if it allows me to not lose speech I
guess worth the trade-off.
If it does not work I
did not say checked or unchecked so I don't know. I am guessing
it is a CheckItem and that since it was not checked WindowEyes missed it.
That makes sense since I had set the hibernate and sleep option settings to
never so perhaps it was automagically unchecked - again don't know and don't
even know
Hi Again Rod:
Below article indicates that when the computer goes into sleep or hibernate
mode, still fuzzy on all this, that ram can be lost - sounds like something
that could cause the problems described in prior posts after a sleep
session. Think of WE loading something into ram memory
Hi Rick,
I'm running Windows 10, and I also have two combo boxes, the first being how
many minutes before the display is turned off, set to ten minutes by
default, and can be left alone.
The second combo box is the number of minutes before the computer goes to
sleep and that was set to thirty
Hi: Yesterday I left my desktop for some time and it went into, I guess,
sleep mode.
WE 9.2 wouldn't read anything and it seemed locked up but I fired up
narrator and found it was the logon screen so logged on using narrator and
then windoweyes came up as usual.
But that problem is not unique
Having same issue. I'm also running we 9.2 on a hp laptop running windows
8.1 64 bit.
Reeva
On Tuesday, July 28, 2015, Rick Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com
wrote:
Hi: Yesterday I left my desktop for some time and it went into, I guess,
sleep mode.
WE 9.2 wouldn't read anything
More info concerning this problem, if I first close WE then close the
lid the laptop returns from sleep mode just fine. Left WE running and
problem returns.
On 7/27/2015 4:10 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
Running WE 9.2 on my Windows 8.1 64 bit I7 HP laptop. I have it set to
go into sleep mode
Running WE 9.2 on my Windows 8.1 64 bit I7 HP laptop. I have it set to
go into sleep mode when I close the lid.
Now when I open the lid WE says part of a word then the screen goes
black and the laptop is locked up with the only way to restart is a hard
boot. Out of 5 tries of closing the lid
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