Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is this license acceptable for a source?

2008-04-02 Thread Frédéric Brière
Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The All rights reserved may be misleading. They'll be basically weaving all rights: The only peculiar thing is that, when you have to attribute the City, you can't say This data comes from the Ville de Sherbrooke government or Courtesy Ville de

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Mottram and Tintwistle proposed bypass

2008-04-02 Thread Stephen Wing
On 01/04/2008, Norbert Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so how do I tag a section of highway that is going to be grubbed up and returned to nature (which is happening for short sections of the A14 at Haughley Bends)? highway=trunk construction=disused I think highway=disused

Re: [OSM-talk] Need some Brentford (London) vectors!

2008-04-02 Thread graham
Hi Christian, Brentford isn't fully mapped - especially the area in walking distance just north and west of the Watermans. How about include an osm mapping sub-event in your day? Not as original as your other mapping projects, and not an alternative to them, but as an extra... Alternatively

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Mottram and Tintwistle proposed bypass

2008-04-02 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:01 AM 4/2/2008, Stephen Wing wrote: On 01/04/2008, Norbert Hoffmann mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so how do I tag a section of highway that is going to be grubbed up and returned to nature (which is happening for short sections of the A14 at Haughley Bends)?

Re: [OSM-talk] Dry-weather roads

2008-04-02 Thread Steve Hill
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: I think some variation on the access tag make more sense, if only 'access=dry_season'. Good idea. Afterall the road/route is always there (ie. not intermittent), it is just not passable with normal vechiles. The *water* on the road *is*

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 00:03:37 Robin Paulson wrote: I'm talking about combining the best parts of the data from two approved sources and reflecting both sources in the source tag. This is not possible, without deleting and recreating the original object, if the source tag becomes

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset

2008-04-02 Thread Robin Paulson
On 02/04/2008, David Ebling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only person observing this conversation on the mailing list who is deeply, deeply concerned by the notion of importing data that requires attribution other than the standard OSM CC-by-SA? The fact that well, the attribution they

Re: [OSM-talk] Dry-weather roads

2008-04-02 Thread Nick Dyer
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not entirely convinced about water=intermittent for tidal stuff though since tides are quite predictable so there could be much more useful information about when the water is present (e.g. under water when tide is 4m above

Re: [OSM-talk] Dry-weather roads

2008-04-02 Thread Steve Hill
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: water=tidal and water=seasonal, then?? Sounds good to me, possibly with an optional qualifier tag such as: water:tidal:height=4(flooded by tides 4m above datum) water:seasonal:dates=09/01-03/31(flooded September 1 - March 31) -

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 12:02:49 Robin Paulson wrote: On 02/04/2008, Cartinus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's no reason (in theory) the person carrying out the import of the second, or third, or whatever, 'approved' source, couldn't temporarily be given write-status for that tag.

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/04/2008, Cartinus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's no reason (in theory) the person carrying out the import of the second, or third, or whatever, 'approved' source, couldn't temporarily be given

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Apr 2, 2008, at 13:08, Cartinus wrote: On Wednesday 02 April 2008 12:02:49 Robin Paulson wrote: true, but as i suggested in a previous mail, i'm not sure why someone would need to do this. if a user is importing another dataset which needs attribution, they would likely be someone

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robert Vollmert wrote: I may be missing something, but why would we need to introduce a read- only attribution tag if we already have it? It's the source tag of the first version of an object, in http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/objtype/id/history applauds cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 6

2008-04-02 Thread David Ebling
well, the attribution they want is so close to that demanded by cc-by-sa as to have no real-world difference whenever we display NZ we would have to display crown copyright somewhere totally undermines the purpose of not necessarily - the settled upon option appears to be a link on the map

[OSM-talk] Osmosis/Mkgmap: Missing ways at tile borders

2008-04-02 Thread Christian Linder
Hi everybody, I am trying to split osm data into 1x1 degree tiles with OSMOSIS, then I want to use MKGMAP to create maps for GARMIN devices, assembled from these tiles. Although I use the flags completeWays=yes and completeRelations=yes in OSMOSIS, there are always some segments missing right at

[OSM-talk] pubs.iamnear.net launched

2008-04-02 Thread Tom Taylor
Hello all, I wrote a really simple application to grab your location from Fire Eagle, and show you the nearest five pubs. Of course, the pub data is sourced from OSM (only those with names set). You'll need a Fire Eagle invitation for it to work. http://www.iamnear.net I'm still messing around

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset

2008-04-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:02 PM, David Ebling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, the attribution they want is so close to that demanded by cc-by-sa as to have no real-world difference whenever we display NZ we would have to display crown copyright somewhere totally undermines the

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Robert Vollmert wrote: I may be missing something, but why would we need to introduce a read- only attribution tag if we already have it? It's the source tag of the first version of an object, in http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/objtype/id/history +1 Sebastian

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Mottram and Tintwistle proposed bypass

2008-04-02 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen Wing wrote: | On 01/04/2008, *Norbert Hoffmann* [EMAIL PROTECTED] | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Ok, so how do I tag a section of highway that is going to be grubbed | up and | returned to nature (which is happening for

Re: [OSM-talk] pubs.iamnear.net launched

2008-04-02 Thread David Earl
Namefinder already does this: http://gazetteer.openstreetmap.org/namefinder?find=pubs+near+52.21038,0.14544 http://gazetteer.openstreetmap.org/namefinder?find=schools+near+53.32334,-1.91415 as well as e.g. http://gazetteer.openstreetmap.org/namefinder?find=schools+near+Chapel-en-le-Frith

Re: [OSM-talk] pubs.iamnear.net launched

2008-04-02 Thread Paul Fox
david wrote: Namefinder already does this: http://gazetteer.openstreetmap.org/namefinder?find=pubs+near+52.21038,0.14544 http://gazetteer.openstreetmap.org/namefinder?find=schools+near+53.32334,-1.91415 is there a way to get those results as xml (or even better, for my purposes, as

Re: [OSM-talk] pubs.iamnear.net launched

2008-04-02 Thread Tom Taylor
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a way to get those results as xml (or even better, for my purposes, as gpx waypoints)? I'm exporting from the OSM Extended API http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Osmxapi, which spits it out in XML. It's easy

Re: [OSM-talk] pubs.iamnear.net launched

2008-04-02 Thread Tom Taylor
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:59 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namefinder already does this: Agreed, but this is designed entirely for Fire Eagle and a mobile interface. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Dry-weather roads

2008-04-02 Thread Jo
Steve Hill schreef: On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: water=tidal and water=seasonal, then?? Sounds good to me, possibly with an optional qualifier tag such as: water:tidal:height=4(flooded by tides 4m above datum) water:seasonal:dates=09/01-03/31(flooded September 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Dry-weather roads

2008-04-02 Thread Alex Mauer
Jo wrote: Steve Hill schreef: On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: water=tidal and water=seasonal, then?? Sounds good to me, possibly with an optional qualifier tag such as: water:tidal:height=4(flooded by tides 4m above datum) water:seasonal:dates=09/01-03/31(flooded

Re: [OSM-talk] Dry-weather roads

2008-04-02 Thread OJ W
ele=4m? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-04-02 Thread Karl Newman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Bjørn Bürger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Newman wrote: I don't know why everyone's opposed to left/right. It's unambiguous, and properly structured it would not be difficult for editors to accommodate it. Hmm, IMO neither north/south, nor left/right

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-04-02 Thread Bjørn Bürger
Karl Newman wrote: You still haven't solved the left/right problem. For example, house numbers are commonly even on one side and odd on the other. Not in Braunschweig: Many of our streets are numbered this way: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - [...] - 131 == \ [...] 136 - 135

Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Coastline checker / fixer

2008-04-02 Thread Mark Williams
Dave Hansen wrote: On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 17:31 +, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: I vaguely remember months ago when the coastline checker at http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html was quite new, someone [] You can download a custom JOSM and validator .jar here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

2008-04-02 Thread Brian Quinion
Excuse me while I but in... I'd agree that Left/right doesn't feel like the right solution - I've got a different idea for a solution which doesn't seem to have been suggested. For me the whole problem comes down to the fact that in the current representation there is no concept of a WIDTH of a

Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Coastline checker / fixer

2008-04-02 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 00:18 +0100, Mark Williams wrote: Can anyone tell me why Validator (the normal one) chokes on this http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.49219lon=0.27476zoom=17 please? I can reverse the way all I like, it's not duplicated, it's clockwise whichever way the arrows go

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi error 501

2008-04-02 Thread maning sambale
Is the osmxapi working on the hourly diffs now? cheers, maning On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 01:16:52PM +0100, 80n wrote: One instance of osmxapi (zappy2) is affected by this, but the other instance (zappy1) is

Re: [Talk-de] Erfahrungen mit FSC Pocket Loox N500 als Logger?

2008-04-02 Thread osm_project
Hallo Karsten, ich besitze eine FSC Loox N520. Dieser hat wie der N500 kein Bluetooth und kein VGA Display (im Gegensatz zum N560) aber gegenüber dem N500 64MB RAM / 128 MB Flasch ROM. Der interne GPS-Empfänger (SIRF III) ist bei allen Modellen identisch. Die Loox N500 / N520 / N540 sind ganz

Re: [Talk-de] Fixen (außerhalb der Bahnhofstoilett e ;) )

2008-04-02 Thread osm_project
Hallo, anbei mal 2 Links zu Infoseiten mit recht guten GPS Einsteiger- und Referenz-Informationen: http://www.kowoma.de/gps/index.htm FirstSteps: http://www.karomue.privat.t-online.de/9428/10601.html Gruß - Original Nachricht Von: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Openstreetmap

Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern-Hacking-Workshop Karlsruhe 19.4.

2008-04-02 Thread qbert biker
Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:05:15 +0200 Von: Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Hausnummern-Hacking-Workshop Karlsruhe 19.4. Hm, 'Über diesen way erreicht man

Re: [Talk-de] Anfängerfrage: Autobahn reparieren

2008-04-02 Thread qbert biker
Hallo, sieht von den Daten her gut aus - ist wohl einfach noch nicht gerendert. Grüsse Hubert Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:58:24 +0200 Von: Daniela Duerbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch

[Talk-de] left.eider.bytemark.co.uk - 18% Packet Loss

2008-04-02 Thread Andreas Jacob
Hallo Geht es nur mir so, oder können auch noch andere dieses Verhalten nachvollziehen? Aktuell habe ich Probleme überhaupt ein fertiges Paket von gerenderten Tiles loszuwerden, geschweige denn ein vollständiges Set an osm Daten für ein neues Tile zu bekommen. Gruß Andreas

Re: [Talk-de] Schutz vor Manipulation/Vandalismus in OSM

2008-04-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Man muss sich doch jetzt auch schon registrieren, um etwas aendern zu koennen? ist das jetzt schon durch fuer alle moeglichkeiten des editierens? sehr gut. Es war noch nie moeglich, unregistriert Aenderungen vorzunehmen. Man konnte, und kann derzeit noch, verhindern, dass andere

Re: [Talk-de] Deister Mapping Meister GeoCaching Event

2008-04-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Ich würde auch Flyer und/oder Poster dazu mitnehmen - Wer braucht dazu meine Adresse? Ich. Bitte Anzahl Flyer angeben und sagen, wovon Du gern ein Poster haettest und wie gross (oder wie viele)! Bye Frederik ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki Watchlist (war: Re:Schutz vor Manipulation/Vandalismus in OSM)

2008-04-02 Thread Daniel Schmidt
Weil du das gerade erwähnst. Gibts in unserem Wiki eine Möglichkeit über Änderungen per Mail benachrichtigt zu werden? Hi, hab gerade gesehen, dass es von den History-Seiten im Wiki auch RSS- Feeds gibt, die man abonnieren kann. Vielleicht wäre das ja ne Alternative? Gruß, Daniel

Re: [Talk-de] Wiki Watchlist (war: Re:Schutz vor Manipulation/Vandalismus in OSM)

2008-04-02 Thread John07
Daniel Schmidt schrieb: Weil du das gerade erwähnst. Gibts in unserem Wiki eine Möglichkeit über Änderungen per Mail benachrichtigt zu werden? Hi, hab gerade gesehen, dass es von den History-Seiten im Wiki auch RSS- Feeds gibt, die man abonnieren kann. Vielleicht wäre das ja ne

Re: [Talk-de] Spamschutz im Wiki

2008-04-02 Thread fuesika
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo Bernhard, wollte ich die float-Tabelle rechts, die mit dem Beispiel darunter überlappt, von diesem abtrennen (mit div style=clear:both/div vor Example). Geht leider nicht. Nimm doch br style=clear:both;/ oder wird das auch unterbunden?

Re: [Talk-de] Spamschutz im Wiki

2008-04-02 Thread Bernhard Seckinger
wollte ich die float-Tabelle rechts, die mit dem Beispiel darunter überlappt, von diesem abtrennen (mit div style=clear:both/div vor Example). Geht leider nicht. Nimm doch br style=clear:both;/ oder wird das auch unterbunden? Hmm. Das ist nicht ganz das worauf ich raus wollte. Immer mal

Re: [Talk-de] Spamschutz im Wiki

2008-04-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed April 2 2008, Bernhard Seckinger wrote: ich verstehe schlicht und ergreifend nicht, warum man div sperren muss... Es wäre sonst eine Sicherheitslücke: http://ha.ckers.org/xss.html http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSS Grüße, Till ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Spamschutz im Wiki

2008-04-02 Thread Bernhard Seckinger
On Wed April 2 2008, Bernhard Seckinger wrote: ich verstehe schlicht und ergreifend nicht, warum man div sperren muss... Es wäre sonst eine Sicherheitslücke: http://ha.ckers.org/xss.html http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSS Danke, das hilft weiter: Allerdings scheint mir die Maßnahme nicht

Re: [Talk-de] left.eider.bytemark.co.uk - 18% Packet Loss

2008-04-02 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jacob schrieb: Hallo Geht es nur mir so, oder können auch noch andere dieses Verhalten nachvollziehen? Aktuell habe ich Probleme überhaupt ein fertiges Paket von gerenderten Tiles loszuwerden, geschweige denn ein vollständiges Set an

[Talk-de] JOSM Verbesserungsvorschläge / Feature-r equest

2008-04-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
ich hätte mal ein paar Gedanken zu JOSM loszuwerden: 1. die Funktion join a Node into the nearest way segments bewirkt bisher, dass die Straße, an die angebunden wird, einen Knick bekommt, sei es, weil die Mitte von projiziertem Schnittpunkt und anzubindenden Punkt interpoliert wird, oder weil

[Talk-de] JOSM Presets

2008-04-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Die Presets funktionieren jetzt schon fast perfekt, allerdings gibts noch ein kleines Manko: die Checkboxes gehen bei Click erst auf no, dann auf ja, d.h., man muss immer 2x clicken für die übliche Aktion (nämlich Kreuz setzen). Besser wäre es anders rum: beim ersten Click ja, beim 2. Nein, beim

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] tile server pour la france?

2008-04-02 Thread Philippe Piquer
C'est logique aussi , les serveurs OSm ne sont pas ceux de Google Maps :) Ce qui peut t'etre utile : centre ta carte sur la france , clique sur permalink , et sauve le comme bookmark , ainsi t'aura a chaque fois la france au début, et aussi dans le cache de ton navigateur ... Le 01/04/08, Steven

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Contributeur anonymous

2008-04-02 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Thomas Walraet wrote: Raphaël Jacquot a écrit : c'est un probleme avec potlatch... tu peux changer des trucs sans etre loggué Non (au contraire). Pour faire des changement sur OSM il faut être loggué, quelque soit l'éditeur. Par contre, pour que son pseudo soit indiqué il faut avoir

[OSM-talk-fr] Message en double

2008-04-02 Thread Michel
Je reçois tous les messages en double? Pourtant j'ai bien coché, décoché, recoché, enfin j'ai essayé toutes les combinaisons possibles sans réussir à ne recevoir qu'un exemplaire des messages!! Auriez vous une idée du problème qui m'irrite serieusement lorsque la densité des messages augnente.

[OSM-talk-fr] Test on ne s'affole pas

2008-04-02 Thread Michel
moi si!!! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-fr

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Test on ne s'affole pas

2008-04-02 Thread Michel
Et bien voilà quand tu veux ... Michel a écrit : moi si!!! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Contributeur anonymous

2008-04-02 Thread Pieren Pieren
Par contre, pour que son pseudo soit indiqué il faut avoir coché une case indiquant j'accepte que mes modifications soient publiques. Si j'en crois ce que dis la page wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Disabling_anonymous_edits , l'édition anonyme n'est plus possible depuis le mois

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Contributeur anonymous

2008-04-02 Thread Thomas Walraet
Pieren Pieren wrote: Si j'en crois ce que dis la page wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Disabling_anonymous_edits , l'édition anonyme n'est plus possible depuis le mois de Novembre. Ce qui est marqué, c'est que l'éditeur en ligne (Potlatch) n'accepte plus les utilisateurs qui