Re: [OSM-talk] contours on main map

2008-05-07 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 8 May 2008, at 07:07, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/5/8 maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Please check out Andy's Cycle Map: >> http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/ > > yeah, i had a look at that first; i should have said i was after > worldwide coverage or at least nz. unfortunately, i don't

Re: [OSM-talk] contours on main map

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/8 maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Please check out Andy's Cycle Map: > http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/ yeah, i had a look at that first; i should have said i was after worldwide coverage or at least nz. unfortunately, i don't live in western europe ___

Re: [OSM-talk] contours on main map

2008-05-07 Thread maning sambale
Please check out Andy's Cycle Map: http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/ On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there any intention to include contours on the main map at any > point? would it be possible to have them as a static layer (i.e. they > not be re

[OSM-talk] contours on main map

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
is there any intention to include contours on the main map at any point? would it be possible to have them as a static layer (i.e. they not be re-rendered every week like the mapnik images, to save processing time), with a transparent background? alternatively, are there any world wide maps out th

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhaul of voting process (was: Road crossings proposal - status?)

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/8 DavidD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/5/7 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > using tagwatch is a good idea as a basis for proposals, but problems > > arise when we have two ways of tagging the same type of item. how does > > anyone decide which should be used? one must be more opti

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/8 Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > yes, it is a strange choice. it leads to irrationalities like > > highway=footway and highway=cycleway > > why we're not using right_of_way=motorway|primary|cycleway|footway| > > and so on, i don't know > > Generally "right of way" is a legal

Re: [OSM-talk] finding user

2008-05-07 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 10:51:15PM +0100, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Do you have a map url? > > What user id is being reported? > > I have seen instances where a user has started their username with a > space and it has thrown various things. Everythings fine - josm showed the username of the obj

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhaul of voting process (was: Road crossings proposal - status?)

2008-05-07 Thread DavidD
2008/5/7 Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > using tagwatch is a good idea as a basis for proposals, but problems > arise when we have two ways of tagging the same type of item. how does > anyone decide which should be used? one must be more optimal than the > other. having two methods running

Re: [OSM-talk] finding user

2008-05-07 Thread Shaun McDonald
Do you have a map url? What user id is being reported? I have seen instances where a user has started their username with a space and it has thrown various things. Shaun On 7 May 2008, at 22:37, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Hi, > today i found someone deleted roundabouts i mapped (and just the >

Re: [OSM-talk] finding user

2008-05-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Florian Lohoff wrote: > The user has no page in the wiki - How do i find out the e-mail address > to discuss the mapping style and source of his data? It's in the FAQ - 3.8 at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/FAQ . As of API 0.6 there'll be a more direct way of educating him, according t

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robin Paulson wrote: > yes, it is a strange choice. it leads to irrationalities like > highway=footway and highway=cycleway > why we're not using right_of_way=motorway|primary|cycleway|footway| > and so on, i don't know Generally "right of way" is a legal term. It defines a way by the class of u

Re: [OSM-talk] finding user

2008-05-07 Thread Andy Robinson
Assuming you know the username (from zooming in on the Osmarender layer say) then you can append that name instead of your own to the www.osm address. eg mine is at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/blackadder. From there you can send an email to the user. Cheers Andy On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:3

[OSM-talk] finding user

2008-05-07 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, today i found someone deleted roundabouts i mapped (and just the roundabouts - not the streets leading up there). Then tonight i find more garbage data (ways without ANY tags, dots, cycleways which are definitly not there, unconnected roads, duplicate roads etc) in and around the area. The

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging suitability for use by race bikes to roads

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Hill
Ari Torhamo wrote: ke, 2008-05-07 kello 20:13 +0100, Chris Hill kirjoitti: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to use osm to tag the appropriateness for use by road racing bicycles to roads. I have searched the mailing list and the wiki, but found no suit

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 7 May 2008, at 21:34, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/5/7 Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> True, But I think landuse=brownfield should be banned, and all 300 >> ways tagged as such should be renamed to landuse=development & >> demolition. > > it's pretty uk-centric i agree; along with a lot

[OSM-talk] incline tag

2008-05-07 Thread Jeffrey Martin
I was looking at the incline tag and noticed the proposal for an incline to be applied to ways. The discussion on the wiki page seemed to support it and it was rejected. Is there a missing part of the discussion? -- http://bowlad.com ___ talk mailing li

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging suitability for use by race bikes to roads

2008-05-07 Thread Ari Torhamo
ke, 2008-05-07 kello 20:13 +0100, Chris Hill kirjoitti: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I would like to use osm to tag the appropriateness for use by road racing > > bicycles to roads. I have searched the mailing list and the wiki, but found > > no suitable commonly accepted tag.

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging suitability for use by race bikes to roads

2008-05-07 Thread Rory McCann
Chris Hill wrote: > Interesting idea, but you need to come up with a more objective > measure. My idea of good might be your idea of poor. How could you > measure your criteria or define them so others will come to the same result? > > Cheers, Chris I agree. That's the main problem with thing

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhaul of voting process (was: Road crossings proposal - status?)

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/8 Christoph Eckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > For those who think the RFC/vote process represents the > > consensus on how things should be done, what needs to happen to > > change that process? > > IMO map features should be built on top of tagwatch. This way tagging > recommendation

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/7 Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > True, But I think landuse=brownfield should be banned, and all 300 > ways tagged as such should be renamed to landuse=development & > demolition. it's pretty uk-centric i agree; along with a lot of the tags in osm actually, i think the whole land

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhaul of voting process (was: Road crossings proposal - status?)

2008-05-07 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > For those who think the RFC/vote process represents the >   consensus on how things should be done, what needs to happen to >   change that process? IMO map features should be built on top of tagwatch. This way tagging recommendations would be built on top what's actually used. Much more

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging suitability for use by race bikes to roads

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to use osm to tag the appropriateness for use by road racing bicycles to roads. I have searched the mailing list and the wiki, but found no suitable commonly accepted tag. Riding on a road by a racing bike is not just a matter of surface quality

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging suitability for use by race bikes to roads

2008-05-07 Thread OJ W
How about this discussion... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Routing_profiles I tried some bike routing with pyroute and it seemed fairly happy choosing residential roads around town. The only real change for fragile bikes would be that it's difficult to tell whether "highway=cycleway"

[OSM-talk] tagging suitability for use by race bikes to roads

2008-05-07 Thread gr_osm
Hello, I would like to use osm to tag the appropriateness for use by road racing bicycles to roads. I have searched the mailing list and the wiki, but found no suitable commonly accepted tag. Riding on a road by a racing bike is not just a matter of surface quality but also a matter of traffic

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering of large rivers

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Hill
I have tagged the rivers Trent and Ouse which merge into the Humber estuary to get it to render and be consistently tagged. I tried a few schemes and got advice from others, especially David Groom. I broke up the river into chunks. I tagged the banks of these chunks as waterway=riverbank and

[OSM-talk] rendering of large rivers

2008-05-07 Thread Skywave
Maybe riverbanks should be picked up by the coastline checker, then the rivers will be in the shapefile en get rendered. On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Ulf Mehlig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, I'm looking for information about the present status of the > "Large River" proposal (from the Wi

[OSM-talk] rendering of large rivers

2008-05-07 Thread Ulf Mehlig
Hello, I'm looking for information about the present status of the "Large River" proposal (from the Wiki) viz. its consequences for rendering. I found that Osmarender renders a river in "my" area http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-1.0155&lon=-46.7088&zoom=12&layers=0BFT correctly, while Mapnik pr

Re: [OSM-talk] Hi-vis vest with OpenStreetMap Logo & "Surveyor" Text - Printing Underway

2008-05-07 Thread Graham Smith
Hi again Folk, Many thanks to all those that have contacted me about purchasing the custom OSM printed/logo'ed Hi-Vis Vests. I'm please to announce that the order has now been placed with the printer and hopefully I'll have the printed vests sometime in the next 5 - 7 working days. When they

[OSM-talk] Overhaul of voting process (was: Road crossings proposal - status?)

2008-05-07 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:01:33AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > * Some people started tagging *and rendering* crossings, using a > > particular tagging scheme. > > * Some other people, who weren't actually out doing the work, started > > complaining about what was going on [1] > > May

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Matt Williams
On Wednesday 07 May 2008 08:10:02 Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/5/7 Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I am a newbie to OSM, and am trying to mark up a golf course. I have > > gone through (and added some remarks to) the proposal here: http:// > > wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Road crossings proposal - status?

2008-05-07 Thread Steve Hill
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Heh. While in london someone tried to explain to me what was so > special about all these crossing types. They have names for crossings > that here in NL would "normal". A crossing with a separate light for > bikes, that's like every crossing in

[OSM-talk] Voting Proposed features/Surveillance?

2008-05-07 Thread Jens Herrmann
Hello, I was looking for a way to tag surveillance cameras in my city. On the German mailing list someone pointed me to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Surveillance a proposal made in December 2006 which didnt make it to the voting process. Among the suggestions given in

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:17 AM, robin paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i mapped things that had a tag already, until i > understood the system. then i started proposing tags But if you never use them you are never going to understand the problems with them. Real life mapping is so different

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread robin paulson
Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> that golf course proposal looks a way off being complete, maybe wait >> till it is resolved and passes through voting? or join in the >> discussion and make some suggestions yourself > > Why wait

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread robin paulson
Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> that golf course proposal looks a way off being complete, maybe wait >> till it is resolved and passes through voting? or join in the >> discussion and make some suggestions yourself > > Why wait

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread robin paulson
Erik Johansson wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> that golf course proposal looks a way off being complete, maybe wait >> till it is resolved and passes through voting? or join in the >> discussion and make some suggestions yourself > > Why wait

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Road crossings proposal - status?

2008-05-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not interested in tagging animal crossings. Naturally I'm not going > to try to document the intricacies of british naming conventions for > their road crossings when: I will never have occasion to use them as I > don'

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that golf course proposal looks a way off being complete, maybe wait > till it is resolved and passes through voting? or join in the > discussion and make some suggestions yourself Why wait, if you never tag something yo

Re: [OSM-talk] golf course marking

2008-05-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/7 Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am a newbie to OSM, and am trying to mark up a golf course. I have > gone through (and added some remarks to) the proposal here: http:// > wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Golf_course, but > could not understand exactly how t

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC on watermills

2008-05-07 Thread Mark Williams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christoph Wagner wrote: > Hi there > I created a proposed feature called watermill. It is in category > man_made like windmills are too. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Watermill > > I think there is not much misunderstanda