Ryszard Mikke Korwin-Mikke.pl> writes:
> Hello,
>
> the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer.
> I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM.
> The problem is, the whole area is poorly marked in OSM, there is even
> a national road not mar
Hi,
Joseph Gentle wrote:
> I don't think it matters much where our mailing list is hosted. A
> google group would be fine
I for one will certainly not join a Google list, I don't know if I'm
just picky or if others feel the same - Google lists just provide an
incentive for ever more people to o
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> You might call it a workaround, but it's certainly a common approach. Many
> major GIS systems (including the TIGER data set) use this exact methodology.
> Not including this information will make OSM data less useful
Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
> Ryszard Mikke Korwin-Mikke.pl> writes:
>
>> the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer.
>> I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM.
>> The problem is, the whole area is poorly marked in OSM, there is even
>> a nati
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Richard Fairhurst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>> I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but
>> unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in the market
>> for a new GPS device. I'd preferebly like a sta
the voting period has started:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/barriers
physical barriers:
fence, wall, gate
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Given that the Garmin eTrex Legend supporters seem to be the most
vocal group, I would like to chime in and try and uphold the benefits
of a simple GPS bluetooth receiver instead. ;-)
Personally, I find the combination of a small stand alone GPS receiver
in combination with a bluetooth enabled mob
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>
> "Peter Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi,
A number of people have responded to our OSM love appeal. Thank you
for your contributions!
As result were expanding our coverage in the "noname" layer :)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.589&lon=121.0679&zoom=12&layers=000BFTF
You can continue remote editing with Yahoo!
cheers,
maning
Andrew Williams wrote:
> I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but
> unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in the market
> for a new GPS device. I'd preferebly like a standalone device
Someone is bound to say "eTrex Legend HCx" so let me be the first.
c
2008/10/16 Lennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Tom Hughes wrote:
>
the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer.
I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM.
> [snip]
>> ...but bear in mind that importing data which has been derived from
>>
"Peter Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...] Feel free to tinker with the wiki page directly and then post to say
> what you have done.
There is no edit link on the top of the wiki page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Data_License
Best wishes,
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Webmaster for hir
Ryszard Mikke wrote:
> Ummm... Why is that so? Does that mean that I can't use WikiMapia
> for it as well? Cause that is what I've actually done...
When you click Edit, and it says "1. Don't copy from other maps", it
really means it. It's not just there for decorative effect.
cheers
Richard
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> Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call
> forcomments
>
> "Peter Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> When you click Edit, and it says "1. Don't copy from other maps", it
> really means it. It's not just there for decorative effect.
Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere
near "copy
Gustav Foseid wrote:
> Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere
> near "copying"?
Entering "knowledge gained from other maps" is copying, yes.
Of course, one can, and ideally one should, take a liberal view and
say that expansionist views of copyright are ins
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>> It only says "you must also _offer_ to recipients" (my emphasis), not
>> "you must provide in case anyone wants it" - it's like the GPL in
>> that regard. So you don't have to upload a new dump of the whole
>> derivative db (or a diff of your
"Peter Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is no edit link on the top of the wiki page
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Data_License
>
> Sign in (or register) and then there will be an edit button!
That should be mentioned on the page, because it's different to other
Media
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> The key seems to be individually accessible in a systemic way.
>
> To me this implies attributes (columns) and tuples (rows of one or
> more related attributes) that can be accessed.
>
> A bit map would not be a database, but XML, csv, xls, shape files
> would. The
What I and all the 4 people I've talked to about it since yesterday
didn't like was the very low visibility of tram-stops (3px blue square)
with zoom levels 15 and up.
Additionally I'm not quite sure if oneway arrows shouldn't be shown in
z15 as well. I use z15 to get an overview over an area a
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MJ Ray wrote:
> I won't because I don't want yet another bloody website password. I'm
> already scared of the amount of stuff I'll lose if my browser
> password store goes titsup. Isn't there an OpenID MediaWiki plugin?
cf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_AuthPlugin , in progress
ch
Tom Hughes wrote:
>>> the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer.
>>> I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM.
[snip]
> ...but bear in mind that importing data which has been derived from
> Google Maps is not allowed anyway!
Even when s
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere
>> near "copying"?
>>
>
> Entering "knowledge gained from other maps" is copying, yes.
You sure seem very certain about that. I am certain th
Jonathan Harley wrote:
> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>>> It only says "you must also _offer_ to recipients" (my emphasis), not
>>> "you must provide in case anyone wants it" - it's like the GPL in
>>> that regard. So you don't have to upload a new dump of the whole
>>> derivat
Gustav Foseid wrote:
> One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted,
> protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference
> between being careful and paranoid, however.
Yes. We're paranoid. Always have been, it's one of the things that
defines OSM.
>I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but
>unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in the market
>for a new GPS device. I'd preferebly like a standalone device but i'm
>not shunning away from any bluetooth devices, as lugging around a
>EeePC in a backpack i
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted,
>> protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference
>> between being careful and paranoid, however.
>>
>
> Yes. We're parano
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>Sent: 16 October 2008 10:49 AM
>To: talk@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for a new GPS Device?
>
>Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>> I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but
>> unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So
I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but
unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in the market
for a new GPS device. I'd preferebly like a standalone device but i'm
not shunning away from any bluetooth devices, as lugging around a
EeePC in a backpack is qui
On Thursday 16 October 2008 05:47:57 Elena of Valhalla wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [...]
> > Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what
> > it is, but it's not sufficient for all uses. You can pretend that address
Hi,
> Even when someone has been there, verified the POI, and used Google
> Maps
> only as a fancy kind of notepad, in lieu of jotting down the
> coordinates
> on a piece of paper ?
The burden of proof is always on those who accuse you of having
copied data from Google, so if you act as you
Hello,
The Call for Venues for the SOTM09 is now open. If you want to host
the world's greatest open map fest, take a look here:
http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=318
To get involved with organising, take a look here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/State_Of_The_Map_2009/Planning
The date
>One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, protected
>by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference between being
>careful and paranoid, however.
Sigh.there is nothing wrong with adding information that is copyrighted or
otherwise protected. The
Ryszard Mikke wrote:
> Ummm... Why is that so? Does that mean that I can't use WikiMapia
> for it as well? Cause that is what I've actually done...
It sounds like all you want is a way to place a specific point of interest in
OSM, after having already placed it in wikimapia.org. I would recommen
Jonathan Harley wrote:
>> A bit map would not be a database, but XML, csv, xls, shape files would.
>> The interesting distinction may be vector data that is not organized in a
>> direct searchable fashion - so, would svg (for example) be a database?
>> H...
>>
> Definitely. Searching an SV
2008/10/16 Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Gustav Foseid wrote:
>
>> One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted,
>> protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference
>> between being careful and paranoid, however.
>
> Yes. We're paranoid. A
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what it
> is, but it's not sufficient for all uses.
Perhaps not natively, but I don't see why it can't be converted into
interpolated-on-street during proce
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On the other hand, putting the information directly on the street
> limits the ability to produce useful things like maps with numbers on
> the building outlines. So I'd say we should go for "numbers on houses"
> (e.g. Karlsru
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what
> it
> > is, but it's not sufficient for all uses.
>
> Perhaps not native
On Thursday 16 October 2008 14:28:33 Andy Allan wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what
> > it is, but it's not sufficient for all uses.
>
> Perhaps not natively, but I don't see why
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is nothing to associate the
> node to the street other than MAYBE the name, which is pretty poor for a
> relational data model. It could be misspelled or linked to the wrong street
> with a similar name or even just the
Kai Krueger wrote:
> Given that the Garmin eTrex Legend supporters seem to be the most
> vocal group, I would like to chime in and try and uphold the benefits
> of a simple GPS bluetooth receiver instead. ;-)
Or buy a simple GPS data logger with BlueTooth connection. For
collecting of GPS traces,
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 08:57:01PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote:
> Stephen Gower wrote:
> > I see from later posts that you also suggest using this scheme for cycle/bus
> > lanes to indicate which side of the road they should be rendered.
>
> Did I?
I thought it was you - it certainly came up i
On the whole I prefer no casing, it does mean the actual road colours
need to be stronger to avoid the washed out look..
Have a nice day,
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick Weber wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Just noticed that the Wednesday Mapnik update has int
On Thursday 16 October 2008 16:51:40 Nick Black wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The Call for Venues for the SOTM09 is now open. If you want to host
> the world's greatest open map fest, take a look here:
>
> http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=318
>
> To get involved with organising, take a look here:
>
> http://wi
Martijn van Oosterhout:
> On the whole I prefer no casing, it does mean the actual road colours
> need to be stronger to avoid the washed out look..
True. Do you see the trunk road passing through the woods here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.074&lon=8.8972&zoom=14&layers=B000FFF
:D
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El Jueves, 16 de Octubre de 2008, Inge Wallin escribió:
> Very intersting dates. Just for your info, the first joint KDE and Gnome
> desktop conference will take place in Gran Canaria from July 3rd until July
> 11th[1].
I've just talked with GULIC (Canary Islands Linux Users Group), one of the
p
In general roads have been drawn too wide.
While it is difficult to draw roads "on scale"
in terms of width, the new mapnik style is too wide.
Look here at level 15:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.98053&lon=4.36659&zoom=15&layers=B0
00FTF
where residential roads start to overlap.
And he
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.98473&lon=4.37146&zoom=17
> where cycle ways aside the Schieweg road are invisible due to the width
> of the road..
I didn't know anything about the streets in question, so I downloaded that
region into JOSM and then I looked at some better-than-yahoo aeria
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