[OSM-talk] SEO

2008-10-24 Thread SteveC
All CloudMade have some people experienced in Search Engine Optimisation and we'd like to offer their time to look at making OSM push higher up search results. Basically we think it would be nice that if you search for 'free maps' and things like that then OSM comes up to the top. What do y

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Tiger 2007 Data

2008-10-24 Thread SteveC
Dave the positional accuracy of the 'new' TIGER stuff I hear is substantially better across the board. Some suggestions: Build a list of counties which have not had substantial edits to see if they can be dropped for the new stuff? Import all the TIGER 2007 addressing stuff in the Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Peter Miller
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 October 2008 22:38 > To: 'Frank Sautter'; 'talk@openstreetmap.org' > Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Xybot > > > > > Peter Miller schrieb: > > > The only link from this page is one back to the xybot user page and >

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Frank Sautter wrote: > can you please provide some information about that (way id). as far as > i can say this should not happen. xybot changed "natural=forest" to > "landuse=forest" and yes, wood and forest are not the same. No, they aren't. And neither are natural and landuse -- natural describes

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Peter Miller
> Peter Miller schrieb: > > The only link from this page is one back to the xybot user page and > there is > > no link to the bot's page itself (is there one?) to provide information > > about what the bot is doing and why and what one should do if one > disagrees > > with the edits. > thanks fo

Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

2008-10-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Oct 2008, at 22:17, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Bob Jonkman wrote: >> In my locality there is a gas station (petrol station) which has >> the name >> "Elmira Service Centre", is it owned and operated by Norm >> Stanaitis, and >> it has a prominent banner for "UPI" brand gasoline, rec

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Peter Miller wrote: > Btw, I have had xybot turning "natural=wood" into "landuse=forest". > Where I come from a wood and forest are not the same thing at all. Indeed not. I'd say a natural=wood refers to where trees have self-seeded and spread naturally, while landuse=forest is a man-made, artific

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Frank Sautter
hello peter, Peter Miller schrieb: > The only link from this page is one back to the xybot user page and there is > no link to the bot's page itself (is there one?) to provide information > about what the bot is doing and why and what one should do if one disagrees > with the edits. thanks for you

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Peter Miller
> > >>> Take "grade" for instance, all occurances of which have now been > >>> changed to "tracktype". Which is a hell of an assumption about the > >>> use of the "grade" tag, and what people potentially might want to > >>> mark with that in the future. This isn't just typo fixing, this is > >>> g

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 04:36:30PM +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: > They certainly lend themselves to it. That's not to say it's a good idea. > The vast majority of these things could be done instead with a much > less intrusive auto bug-notification-system. ie: a big list somewhere > telling you of al

Re: [OSM-talk] timestamps on tracks - why?

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ryszard Mikke wrote: >Sent: 24 October 2008 6:17 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [OSM-talk] timestamps on tracks - why? > >Maybe it's a newbie question, but I don't understand one thing (*) > >Why there is a need to have timestamps on tracks uploaded to OSM? >It's really a pain in the ass

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features

2008-10-24 Thread Matthias Julius
"Dave Stubbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > well, amenity=post_office;shop=convenience doesn't actually clash, so > as long as they don't add the post office to banks or restaurants we > should be OK? Even "amenity=bank;post_office" would be OK if data consumers know how to deal with that. The b

[OSM-talk] timestamps on tracks - why?

2008-10-24 Thread Ryszard Mikke
Maybe it's a newbie question, but I don't understand one thing (*) Why there is a need to have timestamps on tracks uploaded to OSM? It's really a pain in the ass when your GPS device exports tracks without timestamp and I really don't see the reason to require them. rmikke (*) For sure I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Ed Loach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy wrote: > >> And even with typos, there's been a number of discussions as to >> why >> automatically converting e.g. hgihway isn't necessarily a good >> idea - >> almost all of those that I've found there's another way >> co

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Ed Loach
Andy wrote: > And even with typos, there's been a number of discussions as to > why > automatically converting e.g. hgihway isn't necessarily a good > idea - > almost all of those that I've found there's another way > correctly > tagged close beside it. So fixing the typo in these cases is > actua

[OSM-talk] osmdiff: new version, new reports, new cities

2008-10-24 Thread GS
Hi, today you can see new reports generated with the new BETA version of osmdiff. - new areas of coverage - changed tags are reported and drawn - ways with at least one moved node are drawn and listed - a ruler is located in the upper right corner http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Osmdiff_

[OSM-talk] Hamburg complete, orders new street signs due to OSM

2008-10-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Sven Anders and the other guys from the Hamburg OSM team have today issued a press release (http://www.openstreetmap.de/presse/2008-10-24-hamburg-stat.html) saying that Hamburg is the first major German city to be complete. Hamburg (pop. 1.3m) is the second-largest city in Germany. Th

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
>>> Take "grade" for instance, all occurances of which have now been >>> changed to "tracktype". Which is a hell of an assumption about the >>> use of the "grade" tag, and what people potentially might want to >>> mark with that in the future. This isn't just typo fixing, this is >>> going way beyo

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM, David Groom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's the nature of OSM, anyone can edit anything without asking for > permission. There's no black and white here. I agree that it would have > been best to have had some form of discussion about this script, but there'

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Frank Sautter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello andy, > > Andy Allan schrieb: >>> I see that someone is running a bot across the entire planet, > europe > >>> I'm asking now for this person to publicly justify to all the >>> contributors to OpenStreetMap why he or

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Andy has already made the point though that just changing stuff without any notification is not appropriate at all. Anyone is permitted to tag as they see fit so you have know way of knowing if someone is using a tag for other purposes. At a minimum you should be announcing your plans and giving no

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: "Andy Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Talk Openstreetmap" Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:38 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Xybot First let me make it clear that I am not User:Xybot, and I don't not know who he / she is. > > Hi All, > > I see that someone is runni

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Ben Laenen
On Friday 24 October 2008, Andy Allan wrote: > Hi All, > > I see that someone is running a bot across the entire planet, and I > don't see any discussion of it on the mailing lists. The bot is > called "xybot" and the user is apparently "xylome" > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/xylome - I believ

Re: [OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Frank Sautter
hello andy, Andy Allan schrieb: >> I see that someone is running a bot across the entire planet, europe >> I'm asking now for this person to publicly justify to all the >> contributors to OpenStreetMap why he or she knows better than they >> do about tagging? >> This bot has now effectively bla

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging for landuse and landcover

2008-10-24 Thread maning sambale
Yes thank you. That's what I suspect. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No! :-) The layer tag is for things that are vertically separated - > like bridges going over rivers and so on. > > Cheers, > Andy > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale >

[OSM-talk] Xybot

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Allan
Hi All, I see that someone is running a bot across the entire planet, and I don't see any discussion of it on the mailing lists. The bot is called "xybot" and the user is apparently "xylome" http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/xylome - I believe this is the same person who Frederik was referring to

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging for landuse and landcover

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Allan
No! :-) The layer tag is for things that are vertically separated - like bridges going over rivers and so on. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should I use the tag layer? > like > natural:forest > > landuse:tourism > layer:X > > > > On Fri

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging for landuse and landcover

2008-10-24 Thread maning sambale
Should I use the tag layer? like natural:forest landuse:tourism layer:X On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:27 PM, maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > In the Philippines, landcover and landuse are often interchangeable. > But they are completely different. > Land cover is the physical mat

[OSM-talk] tagging for landuse and landcover

2008-10-24 Thread maning sambale
Hi, In the Philippines, landcover and landuse are often interchangeable. But they are completely different. Land cover is the physical material at the surface of the earth, while, land use is a description of how people utilize the land [1] For example, I have an area mostly covered by forest so

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features

2008-10-24 Thread Ulf Lamping
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: > Ulf Lamping wrote: > >> 204 books (in obvious contrary to amenity=library) > > A library lends books, a bookshop sells them. As I said: obviously :-) > >> 292 florist (BTW: in future, garden_centre seems to become the >> value for >> "potted flower shops") > > Ge

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features

2008-10-24 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moved to talk > > Richard Fairhurst wrote: >>Sent: 24 October 2008 8:25 AM >>To: OSM-Dev list >>Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features >> >>Matt Amos wrote: >> >>> i would

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features

2008-10-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Moved to talk Richard Fairhurst wrote: >Sent: 24 October 2008 8:25 AM >To: OSM-Dev list >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] I've added some new shop values in Map Features > >Matt Amos wrote: > >> i would call that a shop=convenience. what distinction would you draw >> between them, ronnie barker notwithstand

[OSM-talk] amusing: caught mapping!

2008-10-24 Thread Andrew Harris
I'd been out with my GPS and my bicycle and was back at home mapping the new housing development that I'd surveyed, converting my trails and paper based notes to points and paths. It was a Tuesday night, Australian time. I don't know why, but the mouse was sluggish, potlatch as slow as molasses, so