Re: [OSM-talk] Directional tagging

2008-11-29 Thread Robin Rattay
Martin Norbäck schrieb: >>> The advantage of having a simple tagging mechanism like this is that >>> the editors can easily prevent accidental reversal of a way, like josm >>> does right now with oneway. There are probably other uses for this >>> kind of scheme. And it doesn't really fit into a rel

[OSM-talk] [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Explicit 4WD_Only tag

2008-11-29 Thread Matt White
Introduce a tag that allows ways to indicate explicitly whether a 4WD vehicle is required to navigate that way. This would also allow routing engines to take into account such ways, so that non-4WD vehicles aren't routed onto roads they aren't capable of. Please see the proposal page for the de

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-11-29 Thread Xav
Christoph Böhme a écrit : > Would it be possible to reuse and extend the client-side code from > osb for a web-based client-side interface? If it is a moral question : of course. If it is a technical question : 50% of the code has to be rewriten. >So, I do not think bug reporters will ever feel

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-11-29 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:10:28PM +0100, Patrick Kilian wrote: > I really dislike > bugzilla and that I was really glad when I found out that OSM uses trac > for its bugtracking. Unless we find a REALLY compelling reason to switch > I'd stay with trac. I’m

Re: [OSM-talk] Directional tagging

2008-11-29 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:16:07PM +0100, Martin Norbäck wrote: > b) 2+1 ways as we call them in Sweden, they are normal ways but have a > small fence in the middle and 2 lanes on one side and 1 lane on the > other side. They look like this: > http://www.vv.se/filer/Vägprojekt/3-Falt.jpg Having th

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-11-29 Thread Tom Hughes
Matt Amos wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (I believe the notes API may suffer - my interpretation - from the idea >> of putting comments directly into the OSM database rather than into a >> separate data set where they - my opinion - belong but

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-11-29 Thread Bernhard Zwischenbrugger
Hi What about defining the API first? And before defining the API we need the use cases. An other thing I would like to see are bug reports in XMPP (Jabber) Network. Think about a map that shows you a new report without polling. People could discuss immediately in a small chat window about this

Re: [OSM-talk] Hierarchy of places

2008-11-29 Thread Pieren
A forth possibility is to use the relation "boundary" where admin_level is provided: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:boundary If two places are in the same place (e.g. Paris France <-> US), then it can be sorted by the lowest admin_level. And admin_level is already an attempt to give a

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-11-29 Thread Simon Ward
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 09:49:41AM +0100, Xav wrote: > - I want the simplier interface with only lat/lon/date, two bug > states, and a text. I do not want a crapy interface with 30 text areas > and 60 combo-boxes I don’t suggest there should be a crappy interface with lots of inputs, but it wo

Re: [OSM-talk] Directional tagging

2008-11-29 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Simon Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 02:16:07PM +0100, Martin Norbäck wrote: >> b) 2+1 ways as we call them in Sweden, they are normal ways but have a >> small fence in the middle and 2 lanes on one side and 1 lane on the >> other side. T

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Watering place

2008-11-29 Thread Nop
When you are travelling longer distances with animals, you need to find water supplies during the day. This proposal defines a tag for this purpose. amenity=watering_place is analogous to amenity=drinking_water, but considering the needs of animals rather than humans. http://wiki.openstreetmap.or

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazard warning

2008-11-29 Thread Nop
Mark dangerous locations on a way. Main focus is on the dangers encountered by hikers and cyclists on smaller tracks and paths in the countryside. Street hazards marked with a traffic sign could also be mapped with this tag. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hazard_warning _

[OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Erik Johansson
I've been looking at the 100 or so turn restrictions[1] in use, and most of them don't follow the spec set up on the wiki making the description very confusing. Considering how complicated relations feels I'm asking here instead of just changing the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Nic Roets
Firstly I must point out that someone has modified the proposal so that it's now a mixture between xrestriction and restriction. In effect it's a new proposal and should have been created on a new page. Perhaps it will make things simpler for the user if 'via' could be left out, but changing gosmo

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Ed Loach
Erik wrote: > I've been looking at the 100 or so turn restrictions[1] in use, http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/relations/search?type=type &value=restriction seems to omit at least the no_right_turn res

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Nic Roets
I think you are right, Ed. A grep of relations-latest.osm.bz2 shows 1930 occurrences of . bzgrep 'tag k="restriction' relations-latest.osm.bz2 |sort |uniq -c |less |sort -nr 815 550 249 129 59 53 44 17 8

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Ed Loach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erik wrote: >> I've been looking at the 100 or so turn restrictions[1] in use, > http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/relations/search?type=type&value=restriction > > seems to omit at least the no_right_turn restriction I added

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bench

2008-11-29 Thread Jiri Klement
Hi, The voting has started: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bench -- Jiri Klement ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But using OSM XAPI I still get results that differ from Nics. > > #curl -gl > http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/relation[type=restriction]

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Erik Johansson
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Nic Roets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps it will make things simpler for the user if 'via' could be left out, > but changing gosmore not to rely on the via node anymore may prove very > difficult. And rendering software may also need the via node. Ok.. so do

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok.. so do you use two via nodes to resolve the left/right turn issue > with out using lat/lon? > No. gosmore expects exactly one 'via' object and it must be a node. So complicated (multistate) restrictions aren't sup

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Scott Atwood
Perhaps someone who understands how this feature works should add a few examples of ways that have been properly tagged as turn restrictions. I recently added several turn restrictions in this vicinity, and I admit I was quite confused by the documentation, but I did the best I could. After this d

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Scott Atwood
Perhaps someone who understands how this feature works should add a few examples of ways that have been properly tagged as turn restrictions. I recently added several turn restrictions in this vicinity, and I admit I was quite confused by the documentation, but I did the best I could. After this d

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Scott Atwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Perhaps someone who understands how this feature works should add a few > examples of ways that have been properly tagged as turn restrictions. > I recently added several turn restrictions in this vicinity, and I admit I >

Re: [OSM-talk] merkaartor download is b0rked

2008-11-29 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Kenneth Gonsalves: > when accessing the url: > http://www.merkaartor.org/pipe/Merkaartor-0.11.tar.bz2 > I get a 'not found' error. Can someone do something about this please? Select your download for Markaartor 0.12 (!) from the official download page: http://www.merkaartor.org/Download/ __

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Scott Atwood
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Nic Roets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Scott Atwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > >> Perhaps someone who understands how this feature works should add a few >> examples of ways that have been properly tagged as turn restricti

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - internal values for validators

2008-11-29 Thread sylvain letuffe
Here is version 2, time for a new RFC : It was simplified to it's minimum, to a last, I hope, deal with the noname case : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Internal_quality -- sly sylvain letuffe ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Nic Roets
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Scott Atwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > This is actually quite a complicated intersection. Arroyo Way is a two-way > street that > Ok, I've read you're description and it looks like my assumptions about southbound traffic on S 17th was correct. The next step w

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nic Roets wrote: > At T junctions the ambiguity is resolved using > restriction=no_left_turn/no_right_turn. For the record, I am strongly opposed to automated processing of the "restriction" except to see if it is "only..." or "no...". I want a situation where the two parts of the road are

Re: [OSM-talk] Osm2go: mobile mapping with Nokia n800/n810

2008-11-29 Thread Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists)
FYI for those watching this project: it's recently sprouted a mailing list at https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/osm2go-users . -- Andrew Chadwick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Ulf Lamping
Erik Johansson schrieb: > I've been looking at the 100 or so turn restrictions[1] in use, and > most of them don't follow the spec set up on the wiki making the > description very confusing. Considering how complicated relations > feels I'm asking here instead of just changing the wiki: > http://wi

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restriction docs

2008-11-29 Thread Cartinus
On Sunday 30 November 2008 03:07:02 Ulf Lamping wrote: > I've just added a table to that wiki page that tries to map existing > road signs to the corresponding restriction values. I don't know if this is the same everywhere in Europe, but sign 7b (the only square sign in the table) does not mean

[OSM-talk] My data got deleted

2008-11-29 Thread ビカス ヤダワ (v ikas yadav)
Hi, I checked one of the sections that I had surveyed, mapped and uploaded two months back. Suddenly when I went through that street yesterday, I could not see my edits anymore. It was a plain single street without a one way property while I had neatly placed both one way streets paralell and also

[OSM-talk] how to map speed breakers/bumper

2008-11-29 Thread ビカス ヤダワ (v ikas yadav)
Hi, Here in the streets of New Delhi and Gurgaon, we have lots of speed breakers (or bumps - These are small, raised portions on the road to slow down a fast vehicle, eg, passing through a living street entering a faster highway.) Some are standard height while some are ugly and speed has to be re

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map speed breakers/bumper

2008-11-29 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Nov 30, 2008, at 06:22, ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) wrote: > Here in the streets of New Delhi and Gurgaon, we have lots of speed > breakers (or bumps - These are small, raised portions on the road to > slow down a fast vehicle, eg, passing through a living street > entering a faster highway.) So

Re: [OSM-talk] My data got deleted

2008-11-29 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Nov 30, 2008, at 06:16, ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) wrote: > I checked one of the sections that I had surveyed, mapped and > uploaded two months back. > Suddenly when I went through that street yesterday, I could not see > my edits anymore. > It was a plain single street without a one way property

Re: [OSM-talk] My data got deleted

2008-11-29 Thread Tanveer Singh
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Tanveer Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:46 AM, ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I checked one of the sections that I had surveyed, mapped and uploaded two >> months back. >> Suddenly when I went through th