Re: [OSM-talk] changes not appearing in osm

2009-11-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 12:56:58 pm Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > > I find that changes made even 5-6 days ago are not showing up either in > > mapnik or in osmarender. I even downloaded the relevant extract from > > geofabrik, but the changes are not showing there also. Is there some > > problem? > >

Re: [OSM-talk] changes not appearing in osm

2009-11-11 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Kenneth Gonsalves au-kbc.org> writes: > > hi, > > I find that changes made even 5-6 days ago are not showing up either in > mapnik > or in osmarender. I even downloaded the relevant extract from geofabrik, but > the changes are not showing there also. Is there some problem? Please give some

[OSM-talk] URGENT - Critical bug in JOSM 2417 [Fwd: [Talk-us] Possible destructive bug in JOSM build 2417 - need someone to duplicate]

2009-11-11 Thread Chris Hunter
I was hoping someone would have already bounced this thread, but I guess not. There is a confirmed bug in JOSM 2417 that breaks uploading, and may encourage users to inadvertently delete ways if the validator plugin is installed. It looks like there's a partial fix in 2439SVN, but the root proble

[OSM-talk] changes not appearing in osm

2009-11-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I find that changes made even 5-6 days ago are not showing up either in mapnik or in osmarender. I even downloaded the relevant extract from geofabrik, but the changes are not showing there also. Is there some problem? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcf

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Ian Dees wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm looking at some donated street centerline data that has addressing data > in the form of "Right/Left From Addr" and "Right/Left To Addr" on each > street centerline. Can you identify the location of the Addr for the "From/To"

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Anthony wrote: > >> >> On the other hand, putting the information directly on the way would >> be problematic for many reasons. Ranges might span multiple ways, and >> right/left has to be reversed wh

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Anthony wrote: > > On the other hand, putting the information directly on the way would > be problematic for many reasons. Ranges might span multiple ways, and > right/left has to be reversed whenever the way is reversed being the > most troublesome. > > this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/11/12 Ian Dees : > What does the math look like to handle intersections? Curvy roads? I admit that data wasn't complex, all segments were straight and all nodes were treated as intersections. Do you have parametric (e.g. bezier) curves or just lots of short segments making soft turns? (I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] shp-to-osm 0.7

2009-11-11 Thread Nakor
Ian Dees wrote: > A new version of shp-to-osm 0.7 has been released to fix a memory > problem when using huge shapefiles. If you're using shp-to-osm to read > shapefiles greater than a few megabytes, you will want to use this new > version. > > Get it at the URL below. > Hello, Is there an alte

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:47 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > > That's a pretty pessimistic view. > > Sorry, I am pretty grumpy today. The area I'm looking at actually has quite a few mappers already, so I imagine this data would probably get updated quickly. > > For the record an import I've don

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/11/12 Ian Dees : > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:55 PM, andrzej zaborowski > wrote: >> The hope is that local mappers there will be slowly improving imported >> data until there are separate points for every address I think?  Then >> I'd recommend just adding those separate ways and making it eas

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > No, I doubt local mappers will improve the data. If that's true (and I'm really not sure if it is), then it really shouldn't be in OSM in the first place. > I sent this mail because > almost all of the data I've seen available for import in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:55 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > Hiya, > > 2009/11/12 Ian Dees : > > I'm looking at some donated street centerline data that has addressing > data > > in the form of "Right/Left From Addr" and "Right/Left To Addr" on each > > street centerline. Is there an accepted way

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hiya, 2009/11/12 Ian Dees : > I'm looking at some donated street centerline data that has addressing data > in the form of "Right/Left From Addr" and "Right/Left To Addr" on each > street centerline. Is there an accepted way of applying these tags to the > road ways? It doesn't really make very mu

[OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-11 Thread Ian Dees
Hi everyone, I'm looking at some donated street centerline data that has addressing data in the form of "Right/Left From Addr" and "Right/Left To Addr" on each street centerline. Is there an accepted way of applying these tags to the road ways? It doesn't really make very much sense to create and

Re: [OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting

2009-11-11 Thread Ulf Lamping
Mario Salvini schrieb: > Hi Sam, > > man_made=lighthouse tells us something about the physical issue of this > building. > seamark=lighthouse tells us something about the role as a naval > navigation mark. > > the same problem we have with man_made=beacon. > Without any further information nobo

Re: [OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting

2009-11-11 Thread Mario Salvini
Hi Sam, man_made=lighthouse tells us something about the physical issue of this building. seamark=lighthouse tells us something about the role as a naval navigation mark. the same problem we have with man_made=beacon. Without any further information nobody can define a use for navigation seamar

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: > To be clear, the ODbL license, when it arrives, will allow people to > create renderings [...] I tend to use a slightly different wording: The ODbL license, if we should adopt it, would allow people to create... I'm trying not to create the impression that ODbL is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread Liz
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, David Lynch wrote: > Depends on which variant of English you're using. In the USA, the > formal rule is to put a period after any abbreviation comprised of the > first and last letter of a word, but US Postal Service fiat is that > abbreviations can have no punctuation other th

[OSM-talk] State of the Map Meeting via Skype 8pm GMT

2009-11-11 Thread Hurricane
Hi OSMers! We're having a SOTM meeting this evening/ today via Skype at 8pm GMT (9pm CET and 1pm MST). Everyone is welcome to join in! Please find me or best is Henk on Skype at : Hurricanemcewen or toffehoff Best, Hurricane McEwen ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread David Lynch
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:23, David Earl wrote: > On 11/11/2009 16:17, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: >> and other punctuation (eg St. to St as an abbreviation for >> Saint). > > St. is wrong anyway - strictly speaking there should only be a period > after an abbreviation where letters a

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Earl wrote: > St. is wrong anyway - strictly speaking there should only be a > period after an abbreviation where letters are omitted Like so much English orthography, it's a matter of house style rather than a hard and fast rule. The most common house style in British English, at least,

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread David Earl
On 11/11/2009 16:17, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > and other punctuation (eg St. to St as an abbreviation for > Saint). St. is wrong anyway - strictly speaking there should only be a period after an abbreviation where letters are omitted, hence St. for st...reet St for S...ain.

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: >Sent: 11 November 2009 4:05 PM >To: Ed Avis >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs > >On 11/11/2009 14:31, Ed Avis wrote: >> Frustrated by living in "St Johns Close", in Turnbridge Wells, Mr Gatward >> decided to buy

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread David Earl
On 11/11/2009 14:31, Ed Avis wrote: > Frustrated by living in "St Johns Close", in Turnbridge Wells, Mr Gatward > decided to buy a can of black paint and a craft brush before correcting the > name > to "St John's Close". I've come across any number of streets where the apostrophe is missing on

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Miller
On 11 Nov 2009, at 14:58, Anthony wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Peter Miller > wrote: >> My reading of this is >> that CloudMade are claiming (c) over the rendered images which would >> make it illegal to copy them without permission. Such a restriction >> is >> of course incompati

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Peter Miller wrote: > My reading of this is > that CloudMade are claiming (c) over the rendered images which would > make it illegal to copy them without permission. Such a restriction is > of course incompatible with the CC-BY-SA OSM data licence No it isn't. Yo

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Ed Avis
Peter Miller itoworld.com> writes: >A brief update - Shaun and I have been sorting this out with CBT in >the past 24 hours and they now have a new shiny CloudMade slippery map >interface on their site with the normal CM attribution[1]. Nice work! Perhaps, then, Cloudmade Maps should be the

[OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread Ed Avis
> This news story shows that what's printed on the street sign is not necessarily the correct street name: >Frustrated by living in "St Johns Close", in Turnbridge Wells, Mr

Re: [OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting

2009-11-11 Thread Sam Vekemans
Yup, A chat on IRC, that yup its fine to use both tags, as they mean the same thing :) Anyway, looks like some work needs to be done on the wiki. i'll add it to my todo list. If someone gets bored of mapping. :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:beacon Cheers, Sam On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at

Re: [OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting

2009-11-11 Thread John F. Eldredge
I take it you are distinguishing between a lighthouse that stands on land, and one that is set directly in the water (not on an island)? The latter would still be a man made tower, so it would seem that the manmade=tower would still be applicable. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "R

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting

2009-11-11 Thread Nop
Zur Info: Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:15:14 +0100 Von: Mario Salvini An: talk@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/marine-tagging. Let's vote or continue di

Re: [OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting

2009-11-11 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, I would think that man_made=lighthouse also needs to be changed so that an additional tag of seamark=lighthouse to show the same thing. as IMO 'seamark' seems to more appropriate ... as a 'land' lighthouse is a 'man_made=tower'. Cheers, Sam On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Mario Salvini w

[OSM-talk] Seamark/Marine-Tagging-Proposal open for Voting

2009-11-11 Thread Mario Salvini
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/marine-tagging. Let's vote or continue discussing critical details. Best Regard Mario ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Miller
On 8 Nov 2009, at 20:12, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Liz wrote: >> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Anthony wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine >>> wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM maps for their >>>