Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Christian Quest
Nobody remembers Bosch talk at SOTM Tokyo ? This make me think that the automotive industry is already working on using OSM data in the not so far future... and Bosch already have a bicycle oriented GPS using OSM: http://www.bosch-presse.de/presseforum/details.htm?txtID=6377&locale=en 2014-03-18

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 17.03.2014 23:05, schrieb Johan C: So we're wondering why OpenStreetMap, being better (superior?) than Google in map data, is not used by commercial companies like BMW. Is there a native German on this list who can ask BMW why they're not using OSM? for Navigation it's not only about having

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Fernando Trebien
Possible reasons: - they don't want their clients to think they're being guided by maps that are not made by professionals (a silly prejudice) - they don't want to tell the world that OpenStreetMap exists by adding attribution to their software UI (possibly due to existing contracts or branding) B

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Johan C
So we're wondering why OpenStreetMap, being better (superior?) than Google in map data, is not used by commercial companies like BMW. Is there a native German on this list who can ask BMW why they're not using OSM? 2014-03-17 21:55 GMT+01:00 Michael Kugelmann : > Am 17.03.2014 04:53, schrieb Han

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 17.03.2014 04:53, schrieb Hans Schmidt: If I, as a company, would use some map provider, I would definitely go for "at least everywhere a minimum level of coverage" instead of only a few places with excellent coverage. There was a comparison about Google and OSM a fow years ago. It showed tha

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Alex, Some of the points you continue to make are patently false. > 1. There is more open data coming online by the day and we are not compatible Let's take this apart. If the data is "open", by which you mean that it would fall into something like the definition of freedomdefined.org, then the

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement of the release of a new set of POI icons

2014-03-17 Thread Markus Semm
Hi, a feedback menu option was added to the osm-icons.org wiki. This is the direct link to the feedback wiki page: http://osm-icons.org/wiki/Public:Main . Cheers Markus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Barth
Just posted my comments to key points that came up in the conversation over on the diary: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/21221#comment25849 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Alex Barth wrote: > Hello everyone - > > I've been sitting on writing about the detrimental effects of >

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement of the release of a new set of POI icons

2014-03-17 Thread yvecai
Saman remarks are right. I wonder: you use a wiki, could it be edited to propose alternative icons and share the refinement burden ? Is it possible to do so while keeping a common style? Maybe the target would be to symplify the icons to obtain legibility at small size, while keeping it as clos

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement of the release of a new set of POI icons

2014-03-17 Thread Saman Bemel-Benrud
This is a great initiative, but there's a lot of room for improvement. There are two big things that would increase the odds of adoption for a set like this: - Remove the containing boxes. The boxes hurt legibility because every icon has the same silhouette, and also makes it difficult for the ico

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 02:39:12PM +0100, Johan C wrote: > We have much better map data? Based on what? OSM will for example in the > next x years not be able to accomodate OSM friendly commercial companies > like Telenav on addresses, lane assistance and POI's. I have been with OSM since 2007 and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 17/mar/2014 um 02:28 schrieb Greg Morgan : > > If I need to split a building, the original primary key does not stay with > one of the two pieces of the building. Two new buildings are created with > two new primary keys. as a side note this is not like you described, the original wa

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-EU - Submit your talk

2014-03-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
A quick reminder - today is the last day you can submit a talk for SOTM-EU 2014. We have already received a lot of very interesting submissions that are going to make for an attractive program. If you are contemplating to submit something today is your last chance. Once again the links: Cal