[OSM-talk-be] codes/query overpass turbo

2014-08-23 Thread niels willemot
Beste Voor mijn thesis had ik graag wat data van open street map gehad. Echter kan ik niet aan de codes aan uit. Zou graag voor de provincie Vlaams Brabant de verschillende locaties van gebouwen en de bushaltes willen. Iemand van jullie een idee welke query ik hiervoor het best gebruik?

Re: [OSM-talk-be] codes/query overpass turbo

2014-08-23 Thread Jo
Ben nu niet thuis, maar bezorg je straks de nodige info. Jo On Aug 23, 2014 4:30 PM, niels willemot niels.wille...@hotmail.com wrote: Beste Voor mijn thesis had ik graag wat data van open street map gehad. Echter kan ik niet aan de codes aan uit. Zou graag voor de provincie Vlaams Brabant

Re: [OSM-talk-be] codes/query overpass turbo

2014-08-23 Thread Glenn Plas
On 23-08-14 16:12, niels willemot wrote: Beste Voor mijn thesis had ik graag wat data van open street map gehad. Echter kan ik niet aan de codes aan uit. Zou graag voor de provincie Vlaams Brabant de verschillende locaties van gebouwen en de bushaltes willen. Hallo Niels, Alle gebouwen via

Re: [OSM-talk-be] codes/query overpass turbo

2014-08-23 Thread Glenn Plas
Zucht ... De oplossing hieronder is niet echt optimaal, als ik de bbox weglaat dan lijkt de result set te groot (405MB), dus er zit nog ergens iets dat niet juist zit in de query. Ben er 2 keer in geslaagd dit correct eruit te halen, maar de 3de keer lukt het me niet. (timeout wss). De

Re: [OSM-talk-be] codes/query overpass turbo - fixed

2014-08-23 Thread Glenn Plas
Ok, deze doet het wel ok: osm-script output=json timeout=125 union query type=way area-query ref=3600196175/ has-kv k=building/ /query query type=node area-query ref=3600196175/ has-kv k=highway v=bus_stop/ /query /union union item/ recurse

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 23/ago/2014, alle ore 04:34, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Of course people need to actually check the data they add, but as long as there is aerial imagery and there's no reason to doubt it, There is always reason to doubt it, because it will always be

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/08/14 04:43, Russ Nelson wrote: I've checked these using surveys, and the aerial photos are right, and the OSM (actually TIGER) data is bad. Once you've edited a few hundred of these ways, you learn to recognize one of these mis-digitized ways. The key perhaps here is that the source

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2014-08-23 9:56 GMT+02:00 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: On 23/08/14 04:43, Russ Nelson wrote: I've checked these using surveys, and the aerial photos are right, and the OSM (actually TIGER) data is bad. Once you've edited a few hundred of these ways, you learn to recognize one of

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/08/14 09:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I object to someone telling me that a road needs 'smoothing' ... it may well have very well mapped source data, and someone who does not know that will be stripping data simply because it does not follow the programmers arbitrarily

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Lester Caine
On 23/08/14 09:47, Lester Caine wrote: On 23/08/14 09:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I object to someone telling me that a road needs 'smoothing' ... it may well have very well mapped source data, and someone who does not know that will be stripping data simply because it does not

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-23 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 21.08.2014, 19:20 +0100 schrieb Dave F.: http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=18159_noCache=on This route relation appears to be just for the B3070. Isn't that a waste of time as it's covered by the ref tags on the ways? I thought route relations

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/08/2014 03:49, Andreas Vilén wrote: I have never edited in Great Britain before so I hope I didn't step on any toes, but I have edited in southern Sweden since 2008 and before I started there was barely anything there... Looking at ITO's OSM Mapper, that village hasn't had a local

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-23 Thread Christian Quest
Deleting, deleting... First we should try to understand the meaning, the purpose of any data that has been contributed by someone else that we don't understand. I understand the purpose and meaning of the first two relations. Each of them describe a route, so the type=route / route=road looks ok

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, If you are at least 18 years of age and speak English, [...] The same message has meanwhile been posted to a whole lot of national OSM mailing lists, with an additional ** apologies for cross-posting ** at the top. If you know it is something that you shouldn't be doing, then sticking an

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-23 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/08/2014 10:55, Christian Quest wrote: For the third one, I don't understand it. It is a big list (collection if your prefer) of roads, and I don't understand the opening_hours tags. What is this supposed to describe ? Does this mean nobody can drive on these roads except during the

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Mike N
On 8/23/2014 5:20 AM, Lester Caine wrote: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/#background=Bingmap=17.00/-83.15249/36.43657 is the one I'm currently on and leaving as it's impossible to see any detail in iD ... how do people cope with the dark images? In iD, select the imagery layer New

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread john whelan
Looking at what they are doing I'd say the information being dug out will be of value to the OSM community and help us understand a little more about the people who add value to the maps. It might even help us on the retention rate and bring the experience of the average mapper up a little. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Christian Quest
Studies and surveys are interesting for a better understanding of our community, but I'm a bit afraid that the results of this one will be highly biased by one single thing: language. OSM is already very english centric and having a survey that is only available in english won't help understand

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 23 August 2014, john whelan wrote: Looking at what they are doing I'd say the information being dug out will be of value to the OSM community and help us understand a little more about the people who add value to the maps. It might even help us on the retention rate and bring the

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 23/08/2014, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: In an ideal world the way to get a proper random sample would be to select OSM mappers randomly then message them. Hopefully you'd get better than 90% response rate to keep it statistically meaningful. Reality is you might be lucky to

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-23 Thread John F. Eldredge
I have seen park roads that were accessible to the public only during specified daylight hours. Using them after park closing time would likely lead to trespassing charges. So, an opening_hours tag on those roadways would make sense. On August 23, 2014 4:55:15 AM CDT, Christian Quest

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 23.08.2014 15:17, Christian Quest wrote: OSM is already very english centric and having a survey that is only available in english won't help understand the OSM community worldwide, just a part of it. It would be interesting to have the same survey being done in another language and compare

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread JB
Hum, I was finally curious of what I would find there. I find this: It is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps non-commercial. Is this really a serious question, or a serious survey, or am I just completly mistaking about OSM since the beginning, or is my English not as good as I

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread john whelan
It is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps non-commercial. Either the survey doesn't understand about OSM or since it does have a subject matter specialist on board I'd be inclined to think its surveying the perception of the mappers. I strongly suspect many think it is totally

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-23 Thread colliar
Am 23.08.2014 15:53, schrieb John F. Eldredge: I have seen park roads that were accessible to the public only during specified daylight hours. Using them after park closing time would likely lead to trespassing charges. So, an opening_hours tag on those roadways would make sense.

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread JB
Ok, then it is the last option, my english is not good enough for this survey. But in this case, I suspect it will also be the case for many many other non-english people… Of course people should be able to make money out of OSM. But as pointed out previously, in some countries, it seems that

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 23.08.2014 16:14, JB wrote: Hum, I was finally curious of what I would find there. I find this: It is important that OpenStreetMap keep the use of maps non-commercial. Is this really a serious question, or a serious survey, or am I just completly mistaking about OSM since the beginning, or is

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/#background=Bingmap=17.00/-83.15249/36.43657 is the one I'm currently on and leaving as it's impossible to see any detail in iD ... how do people cope with the dark images? Lester, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Martijn van Exel
Dave,  You are challenging the existence of an established set of tools in the OpenStreetMap community with your hunches, so the burden of proof is on you. But I’ll at least debunk your assertions, please see below. --  Martijn van Exel MapRoulette gets help to some of the remote, forgotten

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread OSMR
We understand that as a member of multiple lists some OSM contributors may have received the survey invitation more than once and that may have felt like a disrespectful attempt to impose on ones personal time and inbox space. That was definitely not our intent and although we tried to be

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:51 AM, OSMR osm_resea...@mail.com wrote: We understand that as a member of multiple lists some OSM contributors may have received the survey invitation more than once and that may have felt like a disrespectful attempt to impose on one's personal time and inbox

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 23/ago/2014, alle ore 15:53, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com ha scritto: So, an opening_hours tag on those roadways would make sense. conditional access based on time would maybe be more suitable for roads cheers, Martin ___

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Richard Weait
clickhole.com has reported that a Local Mapper has responded to misguided surveys by deleting the campus data of the offending institution and replacing it with amenity=kindergarten. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-23 Thread Andy Street
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 19:20:06 +0100 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=18159_noCache=on This route relation appears to be just for the B3070. Isn't that a waste of time as it's covered by the ref tags on the ways? I thought route

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-23 Thread Andy Street
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:09:40 +0100 SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 21/08/2014 22:36, Janko Mihelić wrote: This makes sense because you can have more than one route on one way. Some countries do this, but the UK (where the B3070 is) does not*, so there's really no

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread James Mast
Well, I have to admit, I've only seen one problem with the armchair mapping with the smoothing in my local area of Pittsburgh, PA so far. What happened was a long time ago, I cleanup up US-19 and separated segments that were divided and segments that had a 'Center Turn Lane' and tagged as

Re: [Talk-br] Coletar fotos para o Mapillary de byke ou moto

2014-08-23 Thread Gerald Weber
Oi Alexandre, obrigado pelo incentivo. Vou fazer isto sim, mas já descobri que a correlação GPS que faço no digikam não é suficiente pois falta colocar a direção em que a foto foi tirada (GPSImgDirection). Vou estudar o link que o Arlindo me passou e depois dou notícias na medida que as

[Talk-in] online survey (academic research) about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread OSMR
***apologies for cross-posting*** Dear OSM contributor, If you are at least 18 years of age and speak English, you are invited to take part in an online survey about the OSM community pursued by faculty at San Diego State University (contact info below). In this academic research, we are

[Talk-it] Cartello limite di parco o riserva

2014-08-23 Thread emmexx
In un bosco ho trovato il cartello della foto [1] ai margini di una torbiera. C'e' un modo codificato di indicarlo? Stessa domanda anche per i cartelli che, ad esempio, delimitano parchi o altre riserve. grazie maxx [1] http://www.emmexx.it/varie/osm/torbiera.jpg

[Talk-it] online survey (academic research) about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread OSMR
***apologies for cross-posting*** Dear OSM contributor, If you are at least 18 years of age and speak English, you are invited to take part in an online survey about the OSM community pursued by faculty at San Diego State University (contact info below). In this academic research, we are

Re: [Talk-co] Cómo producir un mapa *.img pequeño

2014-08-23 Thread Fredy Rivera
Hola Efectivamente es com mkgmap que se genera, es solo descargar el área de osm que quieres generar y correr el script, es realmente muy fácil. On Friday, August 22, 2014, Federico Explorador federico.explora...@nevados.org wrote: Hola maper@s: Quiero producir un mapa (extracto) .img que

Re: [Talk-co] Solicitud informacion RASTER

2014-08-23 Thread Nicolás Vargas
En el USGS (http://glovis.usgs.gov) puedes encontrar imágenes Landsat con resolución de 30 metros. Si combinas las imágenes con la banda pancromática incluso pueden llegar a 15 metros. En esta página también encuentras imágenes Landsat (glcfapp.glcf.umd.edu:8080/esdi/index.jsp) pero no sé si

Re: [Talk-at] Straßenbahnen werden nicht gerendert

2014-08-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Simon Legner wrote: Der Effekt ist, dass die Straßenbahnen in Wien, Graz, Innsbruck sehr lückenhaft dargestellt werden. Linz ist wohl nicht betroffen, weil railway=tram nie (?) zusammen mit highway vorkommt. Wien wurde eh noch relativ verschont, weil alle zweigleisigen und einige eingleisige

Re: [Talk-cz] Tracer - pLPIS - Nová verze

2014-08-23 Thread Marián Kyral
cesta prochází skrz celé pole tam a zpátky. Viz obrázky. Tam by to chtělo rozdělit na více ploch. Ale mám trochu problém s tím, jak tento konkrétní případ poznat. Nová verze: http://www.kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140823/Tracer.jar Zdrojáky (jako vždy): https://github.com/mkyral/josm-tracer/commits

Re: [Talk-cz] Tracer - pLPIS - Nová verze

2014-08-23 Thread Marián Kyral
/20140823/Tracer.jar Zdrojáky (jako vždy): https://github.com/mkyral/josm-tracer/commits/plpis Marián Dne 20.8.2014 19:58, Marián Kyral napsal(a): Ahoj, tady máte novou verzi, která řeší problém se znakovou sadou na windows (nevyplněné landuse). Byla to docela fuška. Musel jsem svého tučňáka

Re: [Talk-cz] Tracer - pLPIS - Nová verze

2014-08-23 Thread Zdeněk Pražák
prochází skrz celé pole tam a zpátky. Viz obrázky. Tam by to chtělo rozdělit na více ploch. Ale mám trochu problém s tím, jak tento konkrétní případ poznat. Nová verze: http://www.kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140823/Tracer.jar Zdrojáky (jako vždy): https://github.com/mkyral/josm-tracer/commits

Re: [Talk-cz] Tracer - pLPIS - Nová verze

2014-08-23 Thread Marián Kyral
, pokud cesta prochází skrz celé pole tam a zpátky. Viz obrázky. Tam by to chtělo rozdělit na více ploch. Ale mám trochu problém s tím, jak tento konkrétní případ poznat. Nová verze: http://www.kyralovi.cz/tmp/josm/beta/20140823/Tracer.jar Zdrojáky (jako vždy): https://github.com/mkyral/josm-tracer

Re: [Talk-cz] Odstávka LPIS

2014-08-23 Thread Marián Kyral
Takže LPIS WFS a WMS je dole. Doufám, že ta nová verze nic nepokazí :-D Marián Dne 22.8.2014 17:23, Marián Kyral napsal(a): Ahoj, tak jsem teď zavítal na webové rozhraní LPIS a co tam nevidím: Plánovaná odstávka registru půdy (LPIS) 19.8.2014 *V termínu 21.8. od 20h do 26.8. do 18h

[OSM-ja] iDエディタの翻訳についてヘルプ (ハイキング用語)

2014-08-23 Thread Satoshi IIDA
いいだです。 OSMエディタ iDの翻訳がTransifexで行われているのですが、 ここのところ、ハイキング・オフロードバイク用語が追加されて、 ちょっと翻訳が難しいかんじになっています。 だいたい定訳があるんだろうなぁ、という分野なので、 もし訳語に心当たりのあるかたは、提案機能からでも示唆いただけると嬉しいです。 https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/id-editor/language/ja/ ちなみに、iDの翻訳を追うと、だいたいどんな機能が実装されるのかが 先にわかって楽しいです。 是非是非。 -- Satoshi IIDA

[Talk-GB] Bus diversions

2014-08-23 Thread Amaroussi-OSM
This seems to be new to me: how long should a route diversion be for before being considered for inclusion on OpenStreetMap? A clarification may solve odd questions about temporary closures, and be part of the standards scheme on the wiki. Thanks.

Re: [Talk-GB] Bus routes and names

2014-08-23 Thread David Woolley
On 20/08/14 20:45, Antje Maroussi wrote: Whereas I use London Buses route 24 Northbound” to help editors each variant so they can put it to the right bus stop, max93600 has been changing them carelessly with the comment Modifications diverses”: in this editor’s recent edits, so that both

Re: [Talk-GB] Bus routes and names

2014-08-23 Thread David Woolley
On 23/08/14 14:12, David Woolley wrote: I think that giving both to and from destinations is going to be wrong, unless there is are route variants that have different combinations. However, except that the wiki example uses a clearly directed =, this is basically the format used in the

Re: [Talk-GB] Bus routes and names

2014-08-23 Thread Amaroussi-OSM
Maybe I could try “London Buses 38 → Victoria”? I just wanted to reduce the time it takes to find and update relation in JOSM, given that the much-needed modernisation is a big thing. Amaroussi (still trying to figure out why Mail insists in replying directly to sender!) On 23 Aug 2014, at

Re: [Talk-GB] Bus routes and names

2014-08-23 Thread David Woolley
On 23/08/14 14:50, Amaroussi-OSM wrote: Maybe I could try “London Buses 38 → Victoria”? I don't think you need the network. The number should be locally unique without that. People don't qualify bus numbers by London bus in real life. I just wanted to reduce the time it takes to find

Re: [Talk-GB] Bus routes and names

2014-08-23 Thread Amaroussi-OSM
Sorry for doing experiments on the mailing list, but what about: 38 Bus 38 Bus → Victoria If this goes well I will put it in the wiki and reference the mailing list. After that we need to talk about the future of coach routes. On 23 Aug 2014, at 14:57, David Woolley for...@david-woolley.me.uk