Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > But where do you stop. Wikipedia and wikidata are not the only sources > so if they get 'special treatment' then why not some of the other > similar archives? Now if every other archive simply included an OSM tag > ... problem solved. But why

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

On 31/08/14 20:59, Clifford Snow wrote: > I say let's figure out how to do this import in a quality manner and > make it easy for mappers to add the link from iD and JSOM. But where do you stop. Wikipedia and wikidata are not the only sources so if they get 'special treatment' then why not some o

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Archer wrote: > I've found some more examples for villages in the Czech Republic (I've > looked only randomly) if you need some more please let me know. In your > mismatch list there seem to be many german municipalities: > http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/mismatches.html The mismatch list inc

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

sorry, the right match for Q1639627 would be http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/433042 I've found some more examples for villages in the Czech Republic (I've looked only randomly) if you need some more please let me know. In your mismatch list there seem to be many german municipalities: http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

There seems to be two threads to this conversation. 1) Will the import/mechanical edit be of high quality and 2) do we want a link to Wikidata. Skipping the technical aspects of connecting OSM with Wikidata I like to focus on do we want to link to Wikidata. From the number of wikidata links in tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

> I'm not looking at P37 (instance of) because many of the wikidata items > don't > include it. I depend on the the article categories from English Wikipedia. Ok, I'm not familiar with article categories in the english Wikipedia. This may cause problems as Wikidata contains more objects than Wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Archer wrote: > 2014-08-31 20:19 GMT+02:00 Edward Betts : > > > Archer wrote: > > > Please don’t understand me wrong. I’m a big fan of Wikidata but I'm > > against > > > an automated import. The mismatches list gives good examples that your > > > matching algorithm doesn't work very well: > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

For the category "Villages" there seems to be also a matching problem. For example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1639627 is a municipality according to Wikidata but the match is place=village: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/897680195 and not the administrative relation for the municipality: htt

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-31 20:19 GMT+02:00 Edward Betts : > Archer wrote: > > Please don’t understand me wrong. I’m a big fan of Wikidata but I'm > against > > an automated import. The mismatches list gives good examples that your > > matching algorithm doesn't work very well: > > http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Archer wrote: > Please don’t understand me wrong. I’m a big fan of Wikidata but I'm against > an automated import. The mismatches list gives good examples that your > matching algorithm doesn't work very well: > http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/mismatches.html > > Some examples: > > 1. Isar N

Re: [OSM-talk] Own wikipage for every single speed limit??

Am 28.08.2014 15:07, schrieb Andreas Goss:>> The problem behind this is that there is no way to mark the reason why >> there is >> a redirect. > > Well, there is a little trick ;) > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dalm&action=edit > > > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Please don’t understand me wrong. I’m a big fan of Wikidata but I'm against an automated import. The mismatches list gives good examples that your matching algorithm doesn't work very well: http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/mismatches.html Some examples: 1. Isar Nuclear Power Plant

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Hi Janko, something like that was proposed on the wikidata side already if I remember right. The idea was to store some kind of query on wikidata, e.g. the Overpass-Permanent-ID [1], which would be used exactly as you say: it can fetch the arbitrary object(s) that match and should match; independen

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Hi Frederik, great post. I always thought wikidata tags would be a first step to a new database that OSM needs, and which would be something like Wikidata is to Wikipedia. A database that classifies and categorizes elements in OSM. In my opinion a slightly modified version of Wikibase could be eno

Re: [OSM-talk] need advice for clever query or script

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 02:09:34AM +0200, Imre Samu wrote: > > I have got one problem, some of the queries with most bridges do > > not load into JOSM. Josm says "contacting the server" and thats all. > > strange ... :( > maybe timeout when generate JOSM data? my impression was that the problem w

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Edward, This is a great work but ... If you are able to add wikidata ID to OSM objects, why not building an API to do so instead of just adding tags to OSM objects ? An API would allow QA tools to help complete data in both WMF projects and OSM, for instance, among other unexpected interesti

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

On Aug 31, 2014 4:53 PM, "Fabio Alessandro Locati" wrote: > Also, I would add that Wikidata is different from many (or all) other databases since: > 1. it can give REAL value to OSM users (while most dbs don't) > 2. It's philosophically close to OSM (while most dbs aren't) +1. We already link to

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

On Aug 31, 2014 5:14 PM, "Simon Poole" wrote: > Nipping this in the bud: the OSMF and WMF are working together on > exactly 0 (in words: zero) projects. > > Note: this is simply a statement of fact and not an opinion on if the > OSMF should or should not collaborate more (less not being possible)

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

On 31/08/14 09:50, Fabio Alessandro Locati wrote: > Also, I would add that Wikidata is different from many (or all) other > databases since: > 1. it can give REAL value to OSM users (while most dbs don't) > 2. It's philosophically close to OSM (while most dbs aren't) > 3. WMF and OSM Foundations ar

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Am 31.08.2014 10:50, schrieb Fabio Alessandro Locati: ... > 3. WMF and OSM Foundations are working toghether on many projects, and > this could be an awesome new piece to add to this collaboration Nipping this in the bud: the OSMF and WMF are working together on exactly 0 (in words: zero) projec

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

Hi, I've waited long to respond to this thread, but I've followed it since the begin. I think we should proceed with the bulk importation and set up a maproultette (or similar) system to do QA on Wikidata tags. Also, I would add that Wikidata is different from many (or all) other databases since: