[Talk-it] State of the map 2018 - biglietti early bird - lista degli interventi - serata social

2018-05-03 Thread Alessandro Palmas
Buongiorno lista, eccomi a voi con alcune notizie. I biglietti a prezzo scontato early bird saranno in vendita ancora per pochi giorni, affrettatevi (o non affrettatevi se volete supportaci con qualche decina di euro in più :-) ). E' stata pubblicata la lista degli interventi

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2018-05-04 00:33, Joe Matazzoni wrote: Hi Daniel, I’ll look for your contributions on the project talk page. Thanks. Meanwhile, here are answers to your questions: 1. The localized maps lack fallback rules (I'm speaking of Polish language at least). I would ask for English as a fallback

Re: [Talk-us] Refreshing tasks.openstreetmap.us

2018-05-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Paul Johnson is my OSM username. On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 9:36 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > Yep, I was hoping to understand what the issue with the email is but > haven't yet. That might be a Tasking Manager bug? > > Looks like folks are able to create tasks though. I'm happy to mark

Re: [Talk-us] Refreshing tasks.openstreetmap.us

2018-05-03 Thread Ian Dees
Yep, I was hoping to understand what the issue with the email is but haven't yet. That might be a Tasking Manager bug? Looks like folks are able to create tasks though. I'm happy to mark anyone a "project manager" so they can create projects. Just let me know what your OSM username is after

Re: [Talk-us] Refreshing tasks.openstreetmap.us

2018-05-03 Thread Paul Johnson
I see that there's been some tasks created, but I'm not able to create tasks or set contact information still. On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 10:05 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > Yep, I just got it working this morning. https://tasks.openstreetmap.us > is Tasking Manager 3 and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 04.05.2018 o 02:30, Yuri Astrakhan pisze: > Daniel, the only real difference between serving every available > language and serving just one is cache fragmentation, and that's may > be different in your case. Sure, but you're talking about just one link of the chain. The WMF vector tiles

[OSM-talk] Dynamic OSM - Vanuatu Ambae island of no return

2018-05-03 Thread Pierre Béland
Some of you might remember the efforts we made in early 2015 to edit Vanuatu islands and map in detail to support the humanitarian organizations, this just after the yearly Ebola response. Since then, many signals of precarious situations in islands in this south pacific area. Quite sad to read

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Daniel, the only real difference between serving every available language and serving just one is cache fragmentation, and that's may be different in your case. The vector tiles get pre-generated the same way, and they simply contain all languages instead of one. Disk space wise, the difference

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Pierre Béland
I have seen a lot of these images and I also believe that we wont need these static images if we can interface properly between OSM and Wikipedia. We just need the recipes for dynamic connections between the two systems :)   Pierre Le jeudi 3 mai 2018 19 h 43 min 38 s HAE, Joe Matazzoni

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Pierre Béland
Hi Joe These features are promizing. My observations will be focused on the interrelations between OSM and Wikipeda and my perception that OSM contributors need more documentation to support Wikipedians. I was contacted recently by a  Wikipedian who talked to me about the maplink feature and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Joe Matazzoni
I found another OSM page directed at OSM-Wikimedia collaboration [1]. This one encourages OSM users to add images of OSM maps to Wikimedia wikis as static graphics. As such, I wonder if advances in placing dynamic dynamic maps in wikis (though mapframe and maplink has made this page somewhat

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 04.05.2018 o 01:17, Joe Matazzoni pisze: > b) how many server resources do you need for rendering languages > that you want to support (not the software stack used)? > > ?? Are you asking about OSM resources or WMF resources? I mean WMF resources. I'm asking because we want to have

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 04.05.2018 o 00:33, Joe Matazzoni pisze: > Here is the list of languages Wikimedia > supports. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix > >

Re: [Talk-at] Gipfel und Berger: Der "massif"-Tag

2018-05-03 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 04.05.2018 00:03, Martin Brunner wrote: Berge sind ja meist bekannter als die einzelnen Gipfel (zB Koralm/Koralpe und der Große Speikkogel). Apps wie Peakfinder, die ihre Daten aus der OSM beziehen, wissen dann eigentlich nur den Gipfel. Zwischen Bergen und Gipfeln wird im normalen

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.05.2018 o 23:20, Yuri Astrakhan pisze: > I have posted in another threads about this, proposing > "default_language" tag to be added to the admin (or smaller) regions > to solve this.  I like this proposition. I was talking about "official_language", but they might be added where they

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Joe Matazzoni
Hi Daniel, I’ll look for your contributions on the project talk page. Thanks. Meanwhile, here are answers to your questions: > 1. The localized maps lack fallback rules (I'm speaking of Polish > language at least). I would ask for English as a fallback for maps in > Polish, but I don't know

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I cannot speak for WMF, only about the actual Kartotherian stack behind it, and the way they are currently using it: On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:52 AM Daniel Koć wrote: > > 1. The localized maps lack fallback rules (I'm speaking of Polish > language at least). I would ask for

[Talk-at] Gipfel und Berger: Der "massif"-Tag

2018-05-03 Thread Martin Brunner
Folgende Frage: Berge sind ja meist bekannter als die einzelnen Gipfel (zB Koralm/Koralpe und der Große Speikkogel). Apps wie Peakfinder, die ihre Daten aus der OSM beziehen, wissen dann eigentlich nur den Gipfel. Wenn icht das recht verstehe, sollte der "massif"-Tag hier Abhilfe schafen. Beim

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 03.05.2018 o 22:49, Joe Matazzoni pisze: > Please post your thoughts and ideas to the project talk page [4]. > Thanks for your help, and for providing the valuable service you do to > Wikimedia contributors and readers around the world.  I will try to put my thoughts there. However I

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
P.S. example - this library [1] might be a good fit (any other suggestions?). It does universal transliteration, yet even the author writes this: "transliteration supports almost all common languages whereas there might be quirks in some specific languages. For example, Kanji characters in

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Christoph, I agree that this would be an awesome improvement, yet I think there is a problem to implement it. Most languages have their own transliteration rules, so transliterating "name" tag without the knowledge of its language will produce a lot of incorrect names. I have posted in another

Re: [Talk-it] come inserire una finanziaria

2018-05-03 Thread Andrea Albani
Se intendi un posto fisico dove erogano prestiti (es. Ducato, Agos, etc) allora io userei shop=money_lender Non lo trovi fra tra i preset di JOSM quindi va inserito a mano assieme almeno a name (e magari operator). Ciao Il giorno 3 maggio 2018 22:48, claudio duchi ha

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 03 May 2018, Joe Matazzoni wrote: > [...] > > We don’t anticipate that these new maps will put any strain on OSM > performance. The impact I do foresee—and hope for—is that the new > exposure of multilingual map data will inspire many more Wikimedians > to contribute to OSM. This is

[OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

2018-05-03 Thread Joe Matazzoni
Hello OpenStreetMap community, I’m the product manager of the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) Collaboration Team. We’ve been working on project recently called Map Improvements 2018 [1] that some of you will find interesting. As most of you probably know, WMF maps are powered by OSM data. The most

[Talk-it] come inserire una finanziaria

2018-05-03 Thread claudio duchi
salve sono alle prime armi uso josm per inserire i dati ma non trovo il tag adatto che fare? Claudio ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread David Woolley
On 03/05/18 17:53, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: I would use a node where the van stops, tagged with amenity="post_office", name="Over Mobile Post Office Service", That seems to break the name is only the name rule. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [OSRM-talk] U-turn penalty?

2018-05-03 Thread Xavier Prudent
Dear all, As a follow-up on my question, for anyone facing the issue: my way out of this question of forbidding u-turns has been to get a local version of the OSM map and to edit it using JOSM. I then applied detailed constraints using the turnrestriction plugin. Good luck! Regards, Xavier

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread Colin Smale
Are these additional services legally obliged, or are they offered as a result of a commercial agreement? Perhaps designation=uk_post_office may be a useful addition to indicate that the legally-obliged services are available at this location. Some services are only available at what used to be

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 3 May 2018 at 14:02, Andy G Wood wrote: > I know one of the unmapped post offices is still "open" in my village > http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postoffice/branch/110053 > however, it is basically a mobile van that turns up on the village green for > some hours a few days a

Re: [OSM-ja] 高速道路の定義について(まとめページ)

2018-05-03 Thread yuu hayashi
hayashiです > 確認したかったのは、 > motorwayを自動車専用道路から高速道路ナンバリングされた道路へ変更することにより、歩行者・自転車・ 小型二輪ユーザーが利用するであろうルーティング機能へあらわれる影響について、 > それが推定なのか、それとも事実(または事実の伝聞)なのか、です。 紛れもなく事実です。 が、仮に推定であったとしても「ルーティング機能」に影響を及ぼすことは誰でも容易に想像できることです。 逆に質問いたします。既存のルーティング機能に影響を及ぼさないとする理由を教えてください。 >

[OSM-talk-fr] Inscription State of the Map

2018-05-03 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Bonjour à tous, tout est dans le titre Quasiment à la veille de la publication du programme (S-4), une petite relance pour celles et ceux qui viendront, quelque soit le programme (oui toi là je le sais !!!). Ce n'est pas du harcèlement, c'est car cela facilite la commande des tee-shirts, la

Re: [Talk-de] Germanenstaffel in Tübingen

2018-05-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Mai 2018 um 17:08 schrieb dktue : > ein besserer Name für dieses Eck (gegenüber) wäre m.E. „Neckartor“, weil >> dort früher besagtes Stadttor stand und der Name weiterhin benutzt wird. > > > Ist korrigiert. "Germanen-Eck" ist nun alt_name und "Neckartor" name.

Re: [Talk-de] Germanenstaffel in Tübingen

2018-05-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Mai 2018 um 17:05 schrieb dktue : > Am 03.05.2018 um 14:55 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > >> Ich möchte gerne die einzelnen Ways zu einer sinnvollen Relation >>> zusammmenfassen [2]. Was wäre aus eurer Sicht das korrekte Tagging? >>> >> m.E. reicht es, wenn die highway

Re: [Talk-de] Germanenstaffel in Tübingen

2018-05-03 Thread dktue
Am 03.05.2018 um 15:07 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: sent from a phone On 3. May 2018, at 14:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: locality hast Du nun ja schon für das angrenzende „Germaneneck“ verwendet, das wäre natürlich eine ziemliche Häufung ;-) Und meiner Meinung nach

Re: [Talk-de] Germanenstaffel in Tübingen

2018-05-03 Thread dktue
Am 03.05.2018 um 14:55 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: sent from a phone On 3. May 2018, at 14:19, dktue wrote: in Tübingen gibt es die sogenannte Germanenstaffel [1]. Diese ist in OSM als vielzahl einzelner Ways getaggt. Insgesamt besteht die Treppe aus 209 Stufen. Ich

Re: [OSM-ja] 高速道路の定義について

2018-05-03 Thread Ras and Road
Ras and Road です。 [提案1]に関して総論の議論を交わしているところですが、各論でのチェックも必要と思い、 法令上の自動車専用道路と高速道路ナンバリングされた道路の違いを整理し、実際の道路例を挙げてみました。 ※検討経緯のまとめではありません。 賛否判断の一助になるかわかりませんが参考になれば、と思い、共有します。 https://imgur.com/ve7bl55 歩行者・自転車・原付を含む125cc未満のオートバイが通行できない道路を列挙し、それを法令上の自動車専用道路と高速道路ナンバリングされた道路に分類しました。

Re: [Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu

2018-05-03 Thread majka
Data na importu se zdají z minulého měsíce, už vidím na stránkách ČP nová. Ale v podstatě pokud tě zajímá gpx nebo geojson soubor - ty "veřejně" nemáme. Předpokládám že Marián by to uměl do gpx vcelku

[Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu

2018-05-03 Thread Václav Kubíček
Ahoj, možná jsem to přehlédl, ale kde se dá stáhnout export schránek české pošty?   Případě nebylo by možno udělat odkaz na stránkách  http://josm.poloha.net/cz_pbox/ odkazy ke stažení pro jednotlivá depa? Nejlépe schránky co chybí.   Díky moc   Vašek

Re: [Talk-de] Germanenstaffel in Tübingen

2018-05-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. May 2018, at 14:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > locality hast Du nun ja schon für das angrenzende „Germaneneck“ verwendet, > das wäre natürlich eine ziemliche Häufung ;-) > Und meiner Meinung nach wäre das auch eine Überbewertung dieser

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread Andy G Wood
Hi Robert, > There's still a lot to do though. In particular, there are around 3800 > branches in the official list that are not currently mapped in OSM, > and around 1000 amenity=post_office objects that correspond to > branches that are probably now closed. How may of these can we survey > and

Re: [Talk-de] Germanenstaffel in Tübingen

2018-05-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 3. May 2018, at 14:19, dktue wrote: > > in Tübingen gibt es die sogenannte Germanenstaffel [1]. Diese ist in OSM als > vielzahl einzelner Ways getaggt. Insgesamt besteht die Treppe aus 209 Stufen. > > Ich möchte gerne die einzelnen Ways zu einer

[Talk-de] Germanenstaffel in Tübingen

2018-05-03 Thread dktue
Hallo, in Tübingen gibt es die sogenannte Germanenstaffel [1]. Diese ist in OSM als vielzahl einzelner Ways getaggt. Insgesamt besteht die Treppe aus 209 Stufen. Ich möchte gerne die einzelnen Ways zu einer sinnvollen Relation zusammmenfassen [2]. Was wäre aus eurer Sicht das korrekte

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread Mark Goodge
On 03/05/2018 11:25, SK53 wrote: Can we please avoid changing the meaning of post office by extending it to courier offices, and restrict it to those places which offer not only a full service mail offering (aka Universal Postal Service), but the traditional other services available at post

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread SK53
Can we please avoid changing the meaning of post office by extending it to courier offices, and restrict it to those places which offer not only a full service mail offering (aka Universal Postal Service), but the traditional other services available at post offices (some banking, government

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread Philip Barnes
I would avoid using amenity=post_office for anything other than a proper post office. The term post office is much more than a place to send parcels or letters. In the UK a post office offers Banking services I can tax my car I can apply for a passport I can collect my pension Exchange currency

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
At the risk of being pedantic, but would a "network" tag, similar to bus routes, not be more appropriate? Here in Sweden, the post office system is now Post Nord, network=Post Nord, but post offices are frequently inside and operated by supermarkets, e.g. operator=ICA. These outlets often

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikimedia Maps deployment

2018-05-03 Thread James
also i believe a multi-lingual map will require vector tiles to be dynamic, which is being worked on as well On Thu, May 3, 2018, 3:36 AM Eugene Alvin Villar, wrote: > On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > >> It's also good that they were able to

Re: [talk-au] Morton Bay National Park should have it's ID numbers under ref=

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
I also agree. Putting other info into a name is not good practice. Separation allows map renderer and search functionality to decide what to do rather than being forced into something. I personally like to tag in a generic way as possible and therefore would use the "ref" tag as my choice.

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Robert If an operator tag is added to post_office tags then your comparison tool would be OK Regards Brian On 3 May 2018 at 10:08, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 May 2018 at 19:08, David Woolley wrote: > > On

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

2018-05-03 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 2 May 2018 at 19:08, David Woolley wrote: > On 02/05/18 18:52, ael wrote: >> >> I am confused:-) How should a Royal mail local delivery office be >> tagged? It seems that it is not amenity=post_office. I notice that >> I have used post_depot once some time ago, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikimedia Maps deployment

2018-05-03 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > It's also good that they were able to deploy multiple language versions > - we would hit this problem anyway, sooner or later, and I hope that > eventually we will be able to provide them too. > FWIW, multi-language maps is one

Re: [talk-au] Morton Bay National Park should have it's ID numbers under ref=

2018-05-03 Thread Warin
+ 1 name is for the name only. On 03/05/18 15:52, Andrew Harvey wrote: I agree. On Thu., 3 May 2018, 2:02 pm Joel H., wrote: Hello, I'm just noticing around Moreton Bay Marine Park. Many nature_reserves are currently formatted as follows: name= Honeymoon Bay

[OSM-talk] Wikimedia Maps deployment

2018-05-03 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, Wikimedia are currently working hard on deploying maps based on OSM data - some basic information and links are here: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=62086 Now they started including them on the project Wikis:

[Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 404

2018-05-03 Thread Tom Ka
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