Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

Roland Olbricht wrote: > Imperfect Flow of Information > > Although many parts of the OpenStreetMap project are well > translated, the tagging documentation has substantial deficiencies. Yep. Documentation is the biggest problem with tagging. I don't actually think it's the wiki per se that's th

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

On Wednesday 11 September 2019, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > The main thing we're missing is curated, simple information on the > main tags that are _used_. Indeed. And i would go even further: Any documentation of the de facto use of tags written by humans (i.e. that goes beyond automatic anal

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

"curated, simple information on themain tags that are _used_" Originally this was maintained at Map Features (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features), and this page is still somewhat "curated"; not just any tag can be added, most of the very common tags are included, and many people are w

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

Am Mi., 11. Sept. 2019 um 14:30 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > Perhaps the current wiki-based system is > fine, as long as enough people are invested in maintaining it. > > +1 Btw, sometimes tiny details can make huge differences. Some years ago, the default action

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

Hello Sarah, I read carefully your response and looked at the picture. I didn't travelled exactly at this place but will go there in October ! However I've already been in Český ráj that is not too far from there and where

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

A even crazier area regarding the abuse of the cliff tag ! https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/50.9610/14.0724 Vladimir. > Le 11 sept. 2019 à 15:27, Vladimir Vyskocil a > écrit : > > Hello Sarah, > > I read carefully your response a

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

On Wednesday 11 September 2019, Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > > I read carefully your response and looked at the picture. I didn't > travelled exactly at this place but will go there in October ! > However I've already been in Český ráj >

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

Am Mi., 11. Sept. 2019 um 15:30 Uhr schrieb Vladimir Vyskocil < vladimir.vysko...@gmail.com>: > ... I didn't travelled exactly at this place but will go there in October ! > great, so you can tell us more after you have visited the place. From what I have seen here, I agree with Christoph and Sa

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

On Wednesday 11 September 2019, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Changing to a github-like system of version management would require > some people to serve as "maintainers" or "moderators" of the new, > curated list of Map Features / Tags, wouldn't it? While this could be > an improvement in the qualit

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Changing to a github-like system of version management would > require some people to serve as "maintainers" or "moderators" > of the new, curated list of Map Features / Tags, wouldn't it? While > this could be an improvement in the quality and consistency of > how dec

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

Hi, On 11.09.19 17:27, Christoph Hormann wrote: > My concern is less that of centralized > decision making and control over an important resource but that it will > be difficult to find, motivate, select and retain qualified people to > work on this. Jochen and I, authors of the 2010 printed O

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

11 Sep 2019, 13:43 by o...@imagico.de: > On Wednesday 11 September 2019, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > >> >> The main thing we're missing is curated, simple information on the >> main tags that are _used_. >> > > Indeed. And i would go even further: Any documentation of the de facto > use of ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

Hi ! > On 11 Sep 2019, at 15:33, Vladimir Vyskocil > wrote: > > A even crazier area regarding the abuse of the cliff tag ! > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/50.9610/14.0724 > What I see there is far from reasonable and far for

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

11 Sep 2019, 18:56 by frede...@remote.org: > and it is very ahrd to do collectively in a "everyone just edits one > tiny little bit and somehow a coherent whole will emerge" kind of way. > Very hard, but given that there is no better alternative... Is there somewhere git repository accepting pull

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

On Wednesday 11 September 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Nearly 100% of my activity on wiki > is attempting to do this (documenting > tags and removal of what is in contrary to > reality). Yes, and you are not the only one who tries that. But the bottom line is that this would only work in t

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:33:05 +0200 Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > A even crazier area regarding the abuse of the cliff tag ! > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/50.9610/14.0724 > Doesn't look crazy to me. From what I saw on the map, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

11 Sep 2019, 20:47 by o...@imagico.de: > if the number of edits  > and the time spent on these by those willing and able to diligently > pursue this path outnumbered edits of those who pursue other goals by a > fair margin. This is not achievable i think. > It is not so bad. Note that rever

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

Vladimir, I see around https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/50.9610/14.0724 an incredible work of micromapping, it can also look ugly in other context. But OSM is glad to have climbing enthusiast in its ranks too! Probably worth opening an issue at https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

> On 11 Sep 2019, at 20:20, Mark Wagner wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:33:05 +0200 > Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > >> A even crazier area regarding the abuse of the cliff tag ! >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/50.9610/14.0724 >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:54:17 +0200 Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > > On 11 Sep 2019, at 20:20, Mark Wagner wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:33:05 +0200 > > Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > > > >> A even crazier area regarding the abuse of the cliff tag ! > >> > >> https://www.openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

Hello everybody, first of all, I am grateful that the responses have all been calm and well-thought. I will make room in the session to document the results of this discussion. Changing to a github-like system of version management I thought of Git, not Github. This is an important distincti

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

On 2019-09-12 06:30, Mark Wagner wrote: On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 20:54:17 +0200 Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > On 11 Sep 2019, at 20:20, Mark Wagner wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 15:33:05 +0200 > Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > >> A even crazier area regarding the abuse of the cliff tag ! >> >> https:/