Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread stevea
There is a lot going on in this topic: primarily, a fairly large, potentially unknowably large semantic of meanings the author of a fixme tag meant when created. Let's be careful as we interpret these. Assumptions by the recipient of that tag should be cautious, lest they wrongly predict the

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread John Whelan
But then you're often talking about a HOT mapper who might not have done any mapping for three years. I must confess when validating HOT projects if I saw a mapper had done something glaringly wrong and it was more than a week before noting the response rate to a changeset message was less tha

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Mar 12, 2020, 23:54 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 12. Mar 2020, at 17:42, Marc M. wrote: >> >> we may delete all fixme=name for all object without a name tag >> > > > I agree that fixme=name for missing names is pointless and could be removed > (although Andy has

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Mar 2020, at 17:42, Marc M. wrote: > > we may delete all fixme=name for all object without a name tag I agree that fixme=name for missing names is pointless and could be removed (although Andy has a point about not knowing someone’s workflow, so for safety you co

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread julien_thevenon--- via talk
Le jeudi 12 mars 2020 à 18:33:15 UTC+1, Simon Poole a écrit : > -that- is not what is analogous to what we are discussing, it would be more like displaying the message that you are late with the payment on every TV in the country. It would be only for every TV relying on my stream because

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

2020-03-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
To authors of this proposed attribution guideline. Why it is contains misleading recommendation that real attribution may be not present on mobile devices? Is it something that will be discussed on LWG meeting today? (this time I should be able to participate via Mumble, not sure whatever it is s

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Mar.12 2020 12 h 16 UTC−4, Volker Schmidt wrote : > It may have been a user who wanted to draw attention to the fact that she has > inserted a place>  without knowing the name.  For the Mali example given by John, an Overpass query reports some 1,200 such points north of Mali, the majority add

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Marc M.
Hello, Volker Schmidt wrote > draw attention to the fact that she > has inserted a place without knowing the name not setting a name=* tag do the same, without telling other that your personal wish must be done. otherwise another contributor will add fix=lit when he doesn't know if the street is

[OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 09:09:09 -0400 > From: john whelan > To: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list > Subject: [OSM-talk] fixme=name > Message-ID: > nr_vr93qs7pna4z...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm seeing a fair number of settlements with this fixme tagg

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread Simon Poole
Am 12.03.2020 um 16:06 schrieb THEVENON Julien: > Le jeudi 12 mars 2020 à 15:43:17 UTC+1, Simon Poole a écrit > : > >> To use a completely different example: assume that you purchase a TV set >> paid by monthly instalments and you default on them. In civilised countries >> that doesn't give t

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread Simon Poole
Am 12.03.2020 um 15:56 schrieb Pierre Béland: > Mar. 12 2020 10 h 43 min  UTC−4, Simon Poole wrote : > > > To use a completely different example: assume that you purchase > a TV set paid by monthly instalments and you default on them. In > civilised countries that doesn't give the seller t

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread THEVENON Julien via talk
Le jeudi 12 mars 2020 à 15:43:17 UTC+1, Simon Poole a écrit : > To use a completely different example: assume that you purchase a TV set paid > by monthly instalments and you default on them. In civilised countries that > doesn't give the seller the right to break in to your apartment and repo

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread Pierre Béland via talk
Mar. 12 2020 10 h 43 min  UTC−4, Simon Poole wrote : > To use a completely different example: assume that you purchase a TV set > paid by monthly instalments and you default on them. In civilised > countries that doesn't give the seller the right to break in to your > apartment and r

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread john whelan
I'm looking in Mali, looking at the history of a sample I'd say they were HOT mapped and many are more than four years old. Cheerio John On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 09:29, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 12/03/2020 13:09, john whelan wrote: > > I'm seeing a fair number of settlements with this fixme tag

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread Simon Poole
The process of - creating a list of sites that you want to target - creating a message and designing a method to display it on the 3rd parties website is very much deliberately scribbling on the third parties website. To use a completely different example: assume that you purchase a TV set paid

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread joost schouppe
John, I created a bunch of those a few years back, when I was still young(er) and (more) naive. Someone had gone and mapped a bunch of villages with the equivalent of name=village. Instead of just removing the name, I also added a fixme to highlight the issue. Someone did point out after the fact t

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 12. März 2020 um 11:50 Uhr schrieb Simon Poole : > So say you scribble on a German companies website, > I am not talking about "scribbling" on someone else's website. The case at hand is about a specific website infringing attribution requirements and as a result they themselves integrat

Re: [OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/03/2020 13:09, john whelan wrote: I'm seeing a fair number of settlements with this fixme tagged on them and I'm not sure what the logic is. There are 39k "fixme=name" worldwide.  I suspect usage varies greatly worldwide; it would be useful to know which ones you're looking at. The nea

[OSM-talk] fixme=name

2020-03-12 Thread john whelan
I'm seeing a fair number of settlements with this fixme tagged on them and I'm not sure what the logic is. I would have thought it is fairly simple to search for place=village without a name tag or am I missing something? Thanks John ___ talk mailing li

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread Simon Poole
Am 12.03.2020 um 10:58 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > Am Mi., 11. März 2020 um 17:21 Uhr schrieb Simon Poole >: > > I would be very very wary of doing anything that deliberately > defaces a web site without consulting with a local (to the country > the web site

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-12 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 17:31, Maarten Deen wrote: > maxspeed:conditional=20 @ flashing? > It is free form, so you can fill in anything you like. If it catches on, > the people who make the navigation will start to use it. > That sounds good and seems in line with what people are already doing. _

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 11. März 2020 um 17:21 Uhr schrieb Simon Poole : > I would be very very wary of doing anything that deliberately defaces a > web site without consulting with a local (to the country the web site is > in) lawyer, particularly if the message implies wrong doing." > > As I am not a lawyer in