Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
ok !   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 5:19 PM -05:00 from John D. : >  >OK ! > >  >>Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:24 PM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via talk < >>talk@openstreetmap.org >: >>  >>Though if valid tagging results in poor results, then it still can be reported >>https://github.com/openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Though if valid tagging results in poor results, then it still can be reported https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD (check whatever it is already reported before making a new issue) Jun 6, 2020, 12:28 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > >then why is the picture on top of the bridge when bridge isad

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Bryce Cogswell via talk
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:42 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > > And all this because of a API defect (because there is just one bounding > box per changeset instead of a list)? This hints at a reasonable and not terribly difficult solution, which is for the editor to (optionally and automatically) split

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
OK !   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:56 PM -05:00 from Mike Thompson >: >  >    >On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < >talk...@openstreetmap.org > wrote: >> >> I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google . >>   >> it was a ruler. >This isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google . > > it was a ruler. This isn't really about OSM, it is about the Google Maps Terms of Service, which by using Google Maps,

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
i did not write the e-mail program,   but it looks like your talking about (reply all) not (reply).   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:28 PM -05:00 from Dave F via talk >: >  >Could you please reply to the forum list not just the sender. I assume you're >the OP. Difficult to tell when you use differe

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Alan Mackie
I have no problem with big bounding boxes that result from editing large objects. I get annoyed by the ones where somebody added twontiny houses on opposite sides of the world. On Sat, 13 Jun 2020, 20:40 Mark Wagner, wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:03:11 +0200 > Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > On F

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:03:11 +0200 Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:19:46AM -0400, James wrote: > > No they shouldn't, mapping roads in northern Canada, your bbox can > > become quite large quickly as mapping logging roads/dirt roads is > > quick and easy, but span over multiple

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread Dave F via talk
Could you please reply to the forum list not just the sender. I assume you're the OP. Difficult to tell when you use different email addresses. >then why is the picture on top of the bridge when bridge is added. You appear to be confusing the ID editor with actual renderings of the map. How it

Re: [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google .    it was a ruler. >Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:40 AM -05:00 from Lester Caine : >  >On 13/06/2020 15:08, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: >> why are you telling me I can not use google as a map source > >First reason is that

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
is it just rivers or would that included polygons, river banks, area ?   Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:44 AM -05:00 from Joseph Eisenberg :   I mostly have mapped in parts of Indonesia where there was no data, and the new road or river was mapped for the first time.   Usually I try to split roads a

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
>i did that it was 10 feet than someone says it can not be 10 feet a mile or so >down the road and he is right  >  >so i changed it but it was 10 feet where i was. >  >>Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:44 AM -05:00 from Joseph Eisenberg < >>joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com >: >>  >>I mostly have mapped in p

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I mostly have mapped in parts of Indonesia where there was no data, and the new road or river was mapped for the first time. Usually I try to split roads and rivers every ~10 kilometers. - Joseph Eisenberg On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 8:46 AM Mateusz Konieczny via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
You should check the measurement directly from aerial imagery in iD or JOSM, or by visiting the location in person and measuring or estimating. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:24 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > since the complainer removed the source (google map) do

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
since the complainer removed the source (google map) do i remove the # as well ?   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:09 AM -05:00 from Mike Thompson >: >  >According to the Google Maps Terms of service, you cannot use it in any way to >make another map. [0]  I would think that would include using it

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread James
also there's a ruler in JOSM On Sat., Jun. 13, 2020, 11:45 a.m. Mateusz Konieczny via talk, < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler? > > Why using ruler on Google Maps would be even necessary? > > Jun 13, 2020, 17:31 by talk@openstr

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
because i was asked to change my edit based on my own ruler measurement,   but it was just a ruler on google maps.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:42 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us >: >  >If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler? >  >Why using ruler on Go

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 13, 2020, 08:03 by f...@zz.de: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:19:46AM -0400, James wrote: > >> No they shouldn't, mapping roads in northern Canada, your bbox can become >> quite large quickly as mapping logging roads/dirt roads is quick and easy, >> but span over multiple kms >> > > The point

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler? Why using ruler on Google Maps would be even necessary? Jun 13, 2020, 17:31 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map. > >   > >> Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Koni

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via talk >: >  >  >  >  >Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by eric.lad...@gmail.com: >>Yeah, be careful with Google Maps.  It's owned and created by a company and >>if you copy from it and t

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by eric.lad...@gmail.com: > Yeah, be careful with Google Maps.  It's owned and created by a company and > if you copy from it and they can prove it, they could sue the OSM Foundation > into oblivion.  They used to even have their OWN satellites to obtain > imagery.  That'

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
this was a tool on the map that measured distance.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:29 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us >: >  >You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source. >  >Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM? >  >"since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area 7

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source. Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM? "since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area 7 months old." FYI, world is larger than your local area. Jun 13, 2020, 16:08 by talk...@openstreetmap.org: > If you people want me to prove m

[OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a person from the data group as an editor,   asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he does not get back to me, why are you telling me I can not use   google as a map source, since all the maps on OSM are old news. like in my l

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Alan Mackie
Splitting changesets does sound like a lot of work if you don't already have for example the multi layer tools that JOSM has. Would a warning that "you already have pending edits ___ km away, please consider saving or discarding those before editing here" be useful in the interim? I think this wou

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Simon Poole
I've advocated for this in the past,  but getting this right from a business logic pov is fairly tricky and is yet another thing that an editor needs to keep track of when creating and modify geometries, and changing tags. From the top my head at least: new object creation, dragging nodes and ways,

Re: [OSM-talk] Large cadastral polygons

2020-06-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jun 2020, at 17:39, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Not just that, but cadastral type tags probably shouldn't be spanning large > areas to start with. If your landuse or landcover polygon is crossing an > unclassified or higher highway, you're probably making a big mistak