Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM plugin to increment or decrement house numbers

2022-12-31 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022, 10:27 Florian Lohoff, wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 12:47:48PM +, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > A local street has houses numbered even on one side, odd on the other. > > > > One number has been missed from the middle of the even side, so every > > number from that point to

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM plugin to increment or decrement house numbers

2022-12-29 Thread Alan Mackie
If the spacing is reasonably even then this feels like something you might be able to (ab)use the Conflation plugin for. In theory I think Overpass can give you tagged centroids which might help avoid overwriting the geometry, but I can't seem to get JOSM to actually import these directly (I'm

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Undeletion needed

2021-11-08 Thread Alan Mackie
If it's that recent then finding the changeset will probably be easiest through osmcha.org filtered by your username and a rough bounding box. Alternately as you may know a time and narrow bounding box where it definitely existed you might be able to pick the deleted way from and Overpass Turbo

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-21 Thread Alan Mackie
I struggle with what to call the in that example. A recent suggestion for named terraces was to use addr:street= and addr:parentstreet=, but if the relates the whole building to to parentstreet, then reconstructing an address seems impossible. The closest existing tag seems to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Making GPS tracks in Android

2020-12-20 Thread Alan Mackie
I have noticed that Google Maps somehow seems to get a location at times when all other apps are struggling. I'm not entirely convinced the playing field is level there. On Sun, 20 Dec 2020, 18:18 Simon Poole, wrote: > I don't expect side loading to be a thing for very much longer. Given >

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-20 Thread Alan Mackie
That still doesn't answer the addr: tag question. I don't think we'd normally expect consumers to need to do such detailed geometry parsing for address to interpretation. I think we need a firmer scheme for divisions of privately managed stuff e.g. business parks apartment 'complexes' and the

Re: [Talk-GB] UK street addressing

2020-12-20 Thread Alan Mackie
I'm also unclear how to tag numbered houses in named terraces. addr:housename doesn't seem appropriate if they are shared along an entire row and addr:street already has a value. I've also run into this for blocks of flats. "Block B" doesn't seem like a housename either? The addr:block tags

Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

2020-12-13 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 11:14, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I run into from time to time and was unsure how to tag this. > > On the other hand highway=track is supposed to be used on > roads used to access fields/forests (often unpaved and of low > quality,

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping a building that's two connected separate buildings

2020-10-12 Thread Alan Mackie
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 18:58, Jez Nicholson wrote: > Ah yes, a bit like when a hospital or school has a 'corridor room' (for > lack of a better term) joining two separate buildings. I'd go for three > joined buildings myself. > > And that newer building has been extended a bit more hasn't it?

Re: [OSM-talk] Can you recommend good introduction to JOSM for 100% osm newbie?

2020-10-05 Thread Alan Mackie
On Mon, 5 Oct 2020 at 18:00, Justin Tracey via talk wrote: > On 2020-10-05 6:49 a.m., john whelan wrote: > > I think we underestimate new mappers. JOSM takes a little more time > > to set up true enough but once set up new mappers can be quite > > productive. I think it is best if you limit

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #529 2020-09-01-2020-09-07

2020-09-13 Thread Alan Mackie
Does anyone have a working auto-translate link for the MAPconciercge article? Medium appears to have thoroughly broken the usual suspects. On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 13:21, weeklyteam wrote: > The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 529, > is now available online in English, giving as always a

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 11:02, pangoSE wrote: > Hi > > Jo skrev: (22 augusti 2020 11:44:49 CEST) > >On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 11:30 pangoSE wrote: > > > >> Hi  > >> > >> Mateusz Konieczny skrev: (22 augusti 2020 > >> 10:51:49 CEST) > >> >(1) Wikipedia may strongly encourage or mandate it in

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sat, 22 Aug 2020, 09:28 pangoSE, wrote: > Hi  > > Mateusz Konieczny skrev: (22 augusti 2020 > 09:55:10 CEST) > >"It a playground with half-ass quality more than an authoritative and > >verified source of information (like e.g. Wikipedia)" > > > >I am not sure whatever you claim that >

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

2020-08-19 Thread Alan Mackie
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 14:52, Jass Kurn wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 13:58, Colin Smale wrote: > >> Possibly even better that StreetView imagery is data that has been >> imported directly from OS, such as OS Boundary-Line for the admin >> boundaries. This is probably the closest we can get

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

2020-08-19 Thread Alan Mackie
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 10:51, Alan Mackie wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, 10:13 Stephen Colebourne, > wrote: > >> So, I followed the links below and added an offset. But this simply >> isn't a viable solution to the problem because it only works for JOSM >

Re: [Talk-GB] New Bing Imagery

2020-08-19 Thread Alan Mackie
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020, 10:13 Stephen Colebourne, wrote: > So, I followed the links below and added an offset. But this simply > isn't a viable solution to the problem because it only works for JOSM > and not iD. > > I managed to convince one mapper to type in the offset manually in iD > every

Re: [Talk-GB] Proposal: Import EV charging point data

2020-08-18 Thread Alan Mackie
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 at 09:09, Rob Nickerson wrote: > For me, once licencing issues have been fully resolved, it comes down to > accuracy of data. > > For example the TfL cycle data is great as it has been collected by ground > survey and with two photos of everything. Some other third party data

Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-09 Thread Alan Mackie
This seems like a bad idea. Name tags are generally very easy to verify on the ground. It is not always as easy to tell if a shop with a certain name belongs to a specific wikidata entry, especially in jurisdictions that are less litigious when it comes to trademarks. We also should not be doing

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned revert of added surface and tracktype tags without local knowledge in various countries

2020-07-19 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sat, 18 Jul 2020, 21:45 Mike Thompson, wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 2:23 PM Mark Wagner wrote: > >> >> * Two adjacent sections of track being tagged as "grade 2" and "grade >> 4" not because of any difference in road surface, but because one has >> a line of grass between the

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fingerposts

2020-07-16 Thread Alan Mackie
Maybe: tourism=information information=guidepost ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:information%3Dguidepost I don't know a way of recording the directions they point save via destination_sign relations. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign On Thu, 16 Jul 2020,

Re: [Talk-GB] Documenting tagging practice for place nodes in London

2020-06-30 Thread Alan Mackie
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 13:56, Russ Garrett wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 13:20, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Quite a lot of stuff of the placename info on OS StreetView probably > > _shouldn't_ be in OSM. Leaving aside farm and house names, the where I > > used to live in Derbyshire is according

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] "Thank you NHS" sculpture in Lightwoods Park, Smethwick

2020-06-29 Thread Alan Mackie
Not to be callous, but if it's described as temporary and looks that flimsy, is it worth mapping given the breeze forecast for next week? On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 21:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Is anyone kindly able to supply coordinates for this artwork: > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Alan Mackie
I have no problem with big bounding boxes that result from editing large objects. I get annoyed by the ones where somebody added twontiny houses on opposite sides of the world. On Sat, 13 Jun 2020, 20:40 Mark Wagner, wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:03:11 +0200 > Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > On

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Alan Mackie
Splitting changesets does sound like a lot of work if you don't already have for example the multi layer tools that JOSM has. Would a warning that "you already have pending edits ___ km away, please consider saving or discarding those before editing here" be useful in the interim? I think this

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Alan Mackie
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 18:27, Mateusz Konieczny via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Jun 12, 2020, 18:26 by aamac...@gmail.com: > > There have been requests for iD to warn users if they have unsaved edits > far away before they start editing a new area, but so far these issues have >

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Alan Mackie
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 16:45, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > This isn't unique to JOSM, though. This is *easily* doable with iD as > well (as evidenced by watching OSMCha with a bbox edged on Oklahoma's > maximum extents, Amazon Logistics does this a good 3-4 times a day every > day with changesets

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-10 Thread Alan Mackie
I would personally prefer it if a certain bit of software said "GPX traces" or similar for the public traces rather than "survey" when autofilling sources, but I never remember to raise it in the bug tracker. On Tue, 10 Mar 2020, 18:09 Volker Schmidt, wrote: > My personal approach: when I map I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-02-25 Thread Alan Mackie
> > placing a localized version of the name tag in front of the > corresponding language area is still an option I support. Red Sea would > be a nice test-bed, just like the Ostsee. > The problem I see with this is that it violates the 'one feature one element' principle. The labels would

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-02-25 Thread Alan Mackie
Names with one, two or three languages where there are a limited number of neighbours/occupants seems logical so long as there won't be an edit war over precedence. Languages separated by "/" or similar. More languages than that seems too unwieldy which rules out its use even for some 'relatively

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-02-23 Thread Alan Mackie
This conversation is petty, repetitive and tedious in the extreme, but as that seems to be the order of the day: OSM was founded in London, ALL the keys are in English which is used far more as a means of international exchange than a niche euro-centric language invented in the late 19th century.

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-04 Thread Alan Mackie
On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 15:46, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB < talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Feb 4, 2020, 16:37 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org: > > >> (Ironically, the current tagging makes it hard for me to search to see > >> if there's a "proper" amenity=university in there somewhere,

Re: [Diversity-talk] [OSM-talk] New Telegram chat for OSM + LGBTQIA*

2020-01-26 Thread Alan Mackie
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_centric_Telegram_accounts ? On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 at 21:48, Richard wrote: > On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 04:19:32PM +0100, Rory McCann wrote: > > Hi, > > > A new Telegram group has been set up: “RainbOSM”. A chat about LGBTQIA* > > issues and

Re: [OSM-talk] New Telegram chat for OSM + LGBTQIA*

2020-01-26 Thread Alan Mackie
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_centric_Telegram_accounts ? On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 at 21:48, Richard wrote: > On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 04:19:32PM +0100, Rory McCann wrote: > > Hi, > > > A new Telegram group has been set up: “RainbOSM”. A chat about LGBTQIA* > > issues and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-12 Thread Alan Mackie
sure they appeared at one point. On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 22:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 12. Jan 2020, at 22:28, Alan Mackie wrote: > > > > The elephant in the room here is that this is a project founded in > London in (Brit

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

2020-01-12 Thread Alan Mackie
The elephant in the room here is that this is a project founded in London in (British) English. Regardless of the 'name' tag, all the main tags are themselves written in English, the official wording of the license is in English, the primary documentation is in English, the historical discussions

Re: [Talk-GB] Increase of mail size limit

2019-06-02 Thread Alan Mackie
> > It's quite normal to include attachments in line with communication (e.g > an attachment in an email or an attachment in a chat/instant message > program). It is, but those tend to be a little more point-to-point rather than send-to-all. I think most newsletter type things tend to link rather