Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

be exactly the opposite of what you want. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

r being a prerequisite for it. and Italy too -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

nguage isolate (and thus equally difficult for everybody) and written in its own system (so that nobody is advantaged here either). Of course, these precise reasons make it quite an impractical choice for osm. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] New Google Maps style - interesting cartographic innovation

teresting to another user gets mapped" is a much better failure mode than "only stuff that pays enough gets mapped". -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

er hand, this tends to give problems to people with unusual names, who see their real name refused by the system, and prevents people with long term pseudonimes to subscribe to the system with the name they are actually known as. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' _

Re: [OSM-talk] discussion: inclusion and alcohol

On 2014-11-04 at 15:42:09 +0100, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: > litres per capita drunk aren't very indicative of the way the presence > of alcool at an event is related to social pressure at drinking; > it is a bad indicator for lots of other things, actually, > si

Re: [OSM-talk] discussion: inclusion and alcohol

drink without receiving any comment. .. [1] here there may have been some discrimination, in that vegetarians were provided for, but do suffer some social stigma. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

ing even if it looks like crap approach of the old tiles@home, but I wonder if it is still possibile to have a map like that and still be readable: back then there was much less data on OSM, nowadays I suspect that it would become too clobbered even as a debug tool. -- Elena

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

small banks with no (external) ATM, where you have to enter the bank (in the usually short opening hours), go to the counter and then you can get money (using your debit card). -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@op

Re: [OSM-talk] casa diroccata

where help is available in Italian. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Build your own GPS receiver

the hardware (homemade solders etc.) works the software part can be made so simple that it can't fail :) -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Build your own GPS receiver

R than 50EUR in our supermarkets :( Another advantage is the modularity: while I'm non using it for logging I can reuse the most expensive part (the GPS, of course) for additional prototypes / one-time projects. I also hope that by changing parts I will be able to use it for longer than m

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

On 2012-10-19 at 10:36:40 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 19/10/2012 10:14, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: > >you can't expect people from the project to speak French, German, > >Italian, Spanish, Polish and every other language spoken whenever > >people wa

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

ould all be speaking French, or maybe Esperanto. English is just what we have today as a lingua franca, and we have to use it. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

on the ground, since that is probably what somebody who is doing a quick and dirty render/router needs, and then sort-of-mandatory name: tags can cover all of the other uses. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Relicensing timeline

we be sure that we have deleted everything?) This IMHO is fine for small remappings by an existing OSM user (if I did something wrong it will disappear from the DB, but I can just take my old tracks+notes and add it again) but it's not very nice on a MP, when we hope to have new contribu

[OSM-talk] Relicensing timeline

POIs etc.). The problem is that on the next week end we have a nice opportunity to promote the mapping party, so we must know the date before this wednesday (to be able to print flyers): do you think that 28 April would be a safe date, or is it better to wait until May? -- Elena ``of Val

Re: [OSM-talk] Applications systematically consuming Bing Aerial tiles

o fault of their own. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways in old mediterranean and similar towns.

lieve it could be useful to contact the local mappers; since their situation is quite different from most other cities they may have a slighty different usage. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous edits on OpenStreetMap through Tor

ormations or publishing unapproved maps. Using TOR and a dedicated email address would be useful for mappers in such countries. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Countries that have NOT had any imports?

ers, landuse, some buildings and other stuff that is harder to get from gps traces and hard/boring to trace from areal pics. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

bably important enough for every osm contributor that having an idea on what's happening is very useful -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetm

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted - spare CC-BY-SA account

nder CC-BY-SA per se, it's a collection of creative works (the articles) that are under CC-BY-SA -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] renaming rendering layers

ng" or "Default" for mapnik and "Full-featured", "Developement" or just "Alternative" for osmarender? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com __

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion to add SA clause to CT section 3, describing "free and open license"

t may or may not be used, and is better left alone. Of course there is still big value in plain printed maps and in routing data under any free license, and this is why I'm still contributing to the project; I would just be happier with a BSD/CC-BY like permissive license, or failing that PD

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

means "you are not legally allowed to walk here", not "this road may be dangerous for you to walk on" using a different tag may be appropriate, however -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com _

Re: [OSM-talk] Moving to Java 1.6 not so easy to swallow

1.5 the main problem with openjdk is that even if it is free it isn't easily ported to other archs, so even users of free systems on e.g. ppc or arm may have problems using josm. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org em

Re: [OSM-talk] Why PD is not better for business

dbl is even worse than the GPL as far as understandability goes. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

walls. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

hat is still mostly active. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Video inputs to OpenStreetView

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Stefan de Konink wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: >> Is 640x480 good enough? > ;) ofcourse we want 1080p ;) is 640x480 good enough e.g to read street names and other signs? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://w

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

le on a path foot=yes|designated you are expected to wear at a minimum confortable clothes and footwear, unless the sac_scale value suggests more tecnical equipment. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] highway=unclassified currently is too ambiguous, so here's my proposal to fix it.

rally only have a single lane depending how zealous the grader driver was > feeling. where would this differ from an highway=track? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk maili

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

e else) are categorized by the italian law according to physical features instead, regardless of importance and maintainer, so the above does not apply. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] "reconverting" google mapmakers

or help in saving the lives of innocent children, and even if you do it so on a mailing list on helping other children (thus probably interested in the topic) -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com __

Re: [OSM-talk] License for OSM logo

said trademark safe and available to prevent abuse. Am I right believing that after the transfer issue is resolved, we are going to get said guidelines, and it's mostly a matter of time? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com _

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

on there. What about using a navigation software like navit that is able to render the data at realtime? Also, what area would be needed? whole world? or just "nearby" areas? i believe that the current extracts for the whole africa in navit format could fit even on a single CD --

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

sted value | current speed limit urbano | built_area | 50 km/h extraurbano| rural | 90 km/h extraurbano principale | half_motorway ? | 110 km/h autostrada | motorway| 130 km/h -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueel

Re: [OSM-talk] open street map - what's in it for you?

istical answer it can be "gratis satnav maps" -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] authorization to import Lombardy data in OSM

st author hasn't been changed this would also help with copyright issues -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

he second part) -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: strange prioritisation/appearance of place names

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Adam Schreiber wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Elena of Valhalla > wrote: >> finding a working algorithm that uses only objective data and is >> always able to select the proper item to print would be excellent, but >> also proba

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik: strange prioritisation/appearance of place names

subjective, but it isn't bad either. finding a working algorithm that uses only objective data and is always able to select the proper item to print would be excellent, but also probably not feasible in real life. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual map

he world, but it doesn't help to know that the local name(s) for that item are the german and italian one, in that order. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk m

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual map

name:local="$name:de ($name:it)" to allow for local styles for places where the local name is in two languages, both shown on the street signs. As a minimum, name:local_lang should support multiple values, to support similar cases -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: ht

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

if > there's no need to change it.) exactly my position -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Ed Loach wrote: > "-yes" anyone? please no, it's even less intuitive than -1 -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM, wrote: > I guess the tagwatch-posting made all talking about preferences pointless. > Mappers clearly favor "yes" and "no". that's (probably) not a mapper choice, that's the josm preset -- Elena ``of Valhalla'&#

Re: [OSM-talk] oneway yes or true

o oblivion. To me anyone of the three currently proposal would do, no preference. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding architect names to buildings

t issue is a category in that definition. exactly that definition, a wikipedia category -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding architect names to buildings

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Matthias Julius wrote: > You could create an "architect" relation and have the buildings be > members of that. that looks like a category, not a relation: I was under the impression that this use of relations was discouraged. -- Elena of Va

Re: [OSM-talk] name tags on place=country and how they're rendered on lowzoom

ountry (plus latin for > Switzerland)... I believe that the official Swiss name is the latin one, exactly to solve this issue, but I'm not sure that all of the countries with more than one official language have a standard official name like them. -- Elena of Valhalla homepag

Re: [OSM-talk] Indiscrimate layering

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Sven Rautenberg wrote: > Elena of Valhalla schrieb: >> not so true everywhere: in mountain areas rivers are usually at the >> bottom of valleys, > The bottom of a valley is layer=0. if it is a wide valley with other features of course yes; if it

Re: [OSM-talk] Indiscrimate layering

-1 if the river is lower than the ground where most of the road is -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of Place Names in Mapnik

t pass through it, crosses a river and below it there are a couple subway lines? ok, not that likely, but I wouldn't use a tag with a different meaning when we can just add another specific one; either based on some hard data (e.g. economic_activity), or clearly marked as a render hint

Re: [OSM-talk] Collecting public transportation time tables

r that it has happened in the last month or so, with a transport company sueing some online timetable service, but I can't remember the details -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ talk mai

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

G), where I try to use josm, but the screen resolution is problematic; a debian package would make me go from "sooner or later" to "right now" :) -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

would need some work in the editors that will benefit also when working with other relations -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

ll of the data and be done with it, I would have to painfully copy it at least once per session, hoping I'm not adding some spelling error -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

I'm not sure there is support for relations in relations in the api / editors -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Something wrong with some postcode areas?

Is there something wrong with some postcode areas between France and Germany? http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresses&lon=5.81038&lat=44.04829&zoom=6 this is the first time i've opened the OSM inspector, so I have no clue what could be going on -- Elena of Valhall

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

t snow and I will be back mapping :) ) * a few other reason that prevented me from having free time for mapping anyway, it's just temporary, I've already had a couple abstinence crisis, so I hope to be back mapping soon :) -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueele

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] why should snow maps be any different to cycling or 'in-line skating' ;) well, you don't have a tag that shows whether a cycle route is opened or closed due to the weather -- Elena of

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering barangays for the Philippines

entially: why translate "village" and not "place"? why keep highway and not the local name? or anything else? -- Elena of Valhalla email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Why does OSM need timestamps in gpx trails

ainted data, but it is helpful in preventing such data being inserted because of ignorance or distraction also, some sort of timestamp is useful to add an order to the points in the gpx and this would be required by any attempt to convert them to osm ways with a script as somebody is trying to do

Re: [OSM-talk] footway vs. path - again and again

hey will be useful in the cyclemap [1] i.e. those that don't need a road specifically built for their needs, like most expecially modern vehicles do. -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=track and motorcar=yes/no

t least some kind of vehicle, the restriction is a legal one -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

ldings on primary roads outside urban areas, and i suppose that at least some of them is big enough to need more informations than a simple outline to know the number -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] - RFC - Motorway_linkimpliesoneway=??

plies oneway (like the junction=roundabout one): the relation may be one such solution In Italy we are adding the explicit oneway tag even to motorways, just to be on the safe side -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] - RFC - Motorway_linkimpliesoneway=??

y relation > > That will cover any stretches of trunk or motorway (or anything else) > that happen to be dualled. +1 to this solution: it seems the safer one and explicit tagging is not a big deal anyway -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.true

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] - RFC - Motorway_link implies oneway=??

n only the small parts that are the actual link should be tagged as > motorway_links ;) in the example above, the motorway ending sign would be at the end of L2, not at the end of the L parts, so driving rules for motorway links would apply and motorway_link would be the logical tag -- Elena of

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed feature for noname

o name, but are clearly marked and thus worth being on the map -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] NoName

Welcome there benedikt! We hope you enjoy your stay on this mailing list! On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 08:15 +0100, alan c wrote: > benedikt schackenberg wrote: > > hello list , my name is benedikt an i am using ubuntu more than 3 years. > > > > just say hello to you :) > > Hi benedikt, welcome! > --

Re: [OSM-talk] Left and Right - a proposal

e it > point into the wrong direction. for a point feature this would be fine, but for a linear feature it may be a problem on a road that turns, e.g. /--- | \--> here the left side is on the south, east and north of the road -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: http://www.tru

[OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

17) http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.86667&lon=8.78932&zoom=16&layers=00BFTF it is an highway=path with foot=designated and sac_scale=mountain P.S. i looked for a direct contact for cyclemap problems, but i couldn't find any: did I miss some place? -- Elena of Valhalla homepage: htt

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering different oneway arrows icons

I propose a > new tag : oneway_paired = true. This would be an _additional_ tag isn't there a proposal somewhere to connect the two directions of the road with a relation? this could solve the problem to identify them, i suppose i don't remember the details, however -- Elena of Valhalla