Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance

2012-09-18 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: On 09/19/2012 02:23 AM, Michael Kugelmann wrote: And: why should the DWG contact the french community at first ? To gain a better understanding of local practices that look dodgy from the DWG's point of view but may

Re: [OSM-talk] Problem with JOSM plugins

2012-09-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I'm unable to load certain JOSM plugins (namely: measurement, openvisible, DirectUpload) on amd64 Debian, using either Sun or OpenJDK. I'm pretty stumped on how to solve this...any hints? JOSM output follows.

Re: [Talk-us] videos of presentations from SOTM 12

2012-09-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Andrew Salzberg andrew.salzb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, does anyone know if the videos of presentations from SOTM 12 are going to be compiled/uploaded anywhere? Would love to look back at some of them and highlight/share some with folks I know who weren't there.

Re: [OSM-talk] http://live.openstreetmap.fr/ down?

2012-09-14 Thread Toby Murray
Might want to update the popup that comes up at the beginning that says the map data is cc-by-sa :) Toby On Sep 14, 2012 9:32 AM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote: http://live.openstreetmap.fr/ is a-live, now plugged on the new ODbL diffs... ;) 2012/9/14 maning sambale

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-Planet

2012-09-14 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Note that the PBF planet is still being copied / generated. Looks like PBF generation just finished. It is still working on the .md5 I see a torrent[1] has gone up with the new osm.bz2 planet... will we get one for pbf

Re: [OSM-talk] Rohde Schwarz using OSM

2012-09-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:35 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: Reputed manufacturer of RF equipment Rohde Schwarz has applied OSM maps in firmware in their portable RS DDF007 Direction Finder for tracking down (illegal) sources of interference.

Re: [Talk-us] Consensus on SR for state route versus state abbreviation?

2012-09-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: Concerning ref tags on ways, I don't think there's a need to impose nationwide consistency. I also don't think it's worth even adhering to a strict machine-parseable syntax (particularly dealing with overlaps) since

Re: [Talk-us] Large area of deleted streets in Riverside, Calif.

2012-09-10 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello all, In the process of doing the Remap-a-Tron, I found a huge area of Riverside, Calif., where most side streets have been deleted. It's along the Pomona Freeway, east of the Chino Freeway, which is

Re: [Talk-us] Large area of deleted streets in Riverside, Calif.

2012-09-10 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello all, In the process of doing the Remap-a-Tron, I found a huge area of Riverside, Calif., where most side streets have been

Re: [Talk-us] Large area of deleted streets in Riverside, Calif.

2012-09-10 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello all, In the process of doing the Remap-a-Tron, I

Re: [Talk-us] how to select overlapping objects in Potlatch 2?

2012-09-06 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: A relatively new user has created a bunch of duplicate Ways around here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.732lon=-71.49769zoom=17layers=M So far I've had good email exchanges with this new user, and I was about to send

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Right now we're sitting at 3,076 ways left to fix. And keep in mind that for every way rendered on this map, there are probably 10 more bot problems in the area like missing ways, broken topology, etc. So don't just

Re: [Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Right now we're sitting at 3,076 ways left to fix. And keep in mind that for every way rendered on this map, there are probably 10 more bot problems in the area like missing ways, broken topology, etc. So don't just

Re: [OSM-talk] average speed as opposed to speed limit in calculating routes

2012-08-26 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr wrote: rn == renato renn...@gmail.com writes: rn Could something like this be done in OSM? Has someone ever thought of rn it? First thought would be an average_speed_by_car tag, that navigators rn could use in

Re: [OSM-talk] average speed as opposed to speed limit in calculating routes

2012-08-26 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Anders Arnholm and...@arnholm.se wrote: Toby Murray skrev 2012-08-27 02:20: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr wrote: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.devel/21542 There is trafficspeed.org which

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: What is OSM’s policy in mapping military installations… Wait, when did OSM start having policies on what to map/not map? If this has started, I have some suggestions :) I would say the

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:01 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: I found a completely erased military base in Israel, that is uncensored on Bing and Google, and two instances in OSM of it have subsequently been removed, the first one drawn by me (for 2

Re: [Talk-us] US-Canadian border

2012-08-22 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:43 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 22, 2012 10:23 AM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) calvin.metc...@state.ma.us wrote: Ah that makes more sense, but not sure how it explains http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.81868lon=-66.91419zoom=15layers=M What

Re: [Talk-us] Blogs

2012-08-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, I want to collect some US centered OSM blogs to add to my blog roll, to blogs.openstreetmap.org and I think it would also be nice to have a local blogs link collection at openstreetmap.us So which OSM US

Re: [Talk-us] Kern County progress

2012-08-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Nathan Mixter srmix...@hotmail.com wrote: I have begun cleaning up the area around Kern County, California. It is starting to not only look better but be less cluttered. I originally imported landuse data from both Kern County and the City of Bakersfield. Some

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been

Re: [Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been

Re: [Talk-us] Another random road reclassification

2012-08-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed user SimMoonXP ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimMoonXP ) reclassifying a few isolated stretches of KS highway 7 in the Kansas City area. I sent a message asking why and he indicated that he

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-14 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Earlier today I noticed that I had a slight error in my rendering rules. I added bridge, lanes and tunnel to the list of queried tags

Re: [Talk-us] Duplicate state parks in California

2012-08-14 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM, AJ Ashton aj.ash...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen state parks in California that are in the database twice each with slightly different tags. Here is an example changeset that added two of everything: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2020128 Two

[Talk-us] Another random road reclassification

2012-08-14 Thread Toby Murray
I just noticed user SimMoonXP ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimMoonXP ) reclassifying a few isolated stretches of KS highway 7 in the Kansas City area. I sent a message asking why and he indicated that he was reclassifying anything with a separated grade intersection as motorway, even if it

[OSM-talk] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-13 Thread Toby Murray
I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been updating the tiles every couple of days but at the suggestion of someone on IRC I just added bridge and lanes tags to the list in addition to oneway.

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Nice tool. It would be even better if we could get a permalink on the online map (to forward a resurvey to concerned people, for instance). And what

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been updating the tiles every couple of days but at the suggestion of someone

[Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-13 Thread Toby Murray
I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been updating the tiles every couple of days but at the suggestion of someone on IRC I just added bridge and lanes tags to the list in addition to oneway.

Re: [Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map

2012-08-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I just updated my oneway map that shows ways with a oneway tag but without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I have been updating the tiles every couple of days but at the suggestion of someone

Re: [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap birthday celebrations

2012-08-11 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Dear All, It is that time again. OpenStreetMap turns eight years old in just a few days. Join the celebration by getting together with other mappers at one of the planned celebrations, or plan one in your town!

Re: [OSM-talk] Amazon River Relation damaged

2012-08-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Holger Jeromin mailgm...@katur.de wrote: Hello, mash00 build a nice relation for the Amazon River in 2010. But it was damaged last month by a potlatch2 user: http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=1245661 Is this a problem made by a user or is the

Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage

2012-08-03 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings

Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage

2012-08-03 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 03/08/2012 03:36, Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop to their site

Re: [OSM-talk] OSRM

2012-08-03 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:46 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Does anybody know how to get in contact with the person who runs it? I've found some routing bugs that aren't OSM data bugs (I've double checked the area it's happening in more than once to make sure). It seems like

Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage

2012-08-02 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings to celebrate Team GB successes in the current Olympics:

Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods

2012-07-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: Hi. I'm trying to collect POI information en masse in my home town by taking daily walks in different areas each day. I use the program OsmPad to collect housenumbers and it's good for that purpose but I have to stop

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-31 Thread Toby Murray
I was unaware of the TLID bug and the fact that TIGER has changed their data model although I kind of wondered about this because I didn't see a TLID attribute in the new TIGER shapefiles. I guess the new field is LINEARID? So yeah, that makes the tlid tag completely useless then. So, I think I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Toby Murray
Ok well so far I see no opposition to deleting tiger:upload_uuid. I might go ahead and work on some code for this. Other than that we have some votes for keeping tiger:county, tiger:zip and tiger:separated although I personally still have it in for tiger:separated :) Any thoughts on

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: While we're incrementing every single version number of TIGER data, we should think about expanding the road names, too. Using the prefix and suffix data already on the majority of the ways makes this pretty fool-proof, so

[Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Thread Toby Murray
Some people may not even be aware of this but JOSM silently discards the created_by tag if it exists on any object you change and upload to the API. This tag was deemed unnecessary and counterproductive a long time ago and this is just a way of cleaning it out of the database as people edit. Not

Re: [Talk-us] Discardable TIGER tags

2012-07-28 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I'm all for upload_uuid being removed automatically. As for tiger:separated, is it possible to remove the tag only if it's set to no? The 1.4% that are set to something else should probably be reviewed manually. Might be

Re: [OSM-talk] Tools to help find areas corrupted by redaction

2012-07-27 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Another thing is that these sawtooth ways tend to cross other ways without intersection, so this is a good indicator, too. Lastly, I'm noticing orphan nodes in areas that need work. Yes, and this can be tricky to

Re: [Talk-us] flyers / brochures

2012-07-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Richard, On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The sources for the most recent flyer are available, here, I think.

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-24 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 7/24/2012 2:59 PM, Svavar Kjarrval wrote: Does anyone know of any other services which could provide reference distances? Does anyone have a pre-redaction planet that could have an OSRM instance created? I would think

[Talk-us] Good work with remapping!

2012-07-23 Thread Toby Murray
I've been watching edits come in today and I see good work being done on interstates, especially in the LA area. It isn't the most fun work to do so thanks to everyone who is pitching in. I ended up finishing the cleanup on I-105. It's just a short one so that's not really a huge feat. To make

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-22 Thread Toby Murray
I already shared this on talk-us but since I have some degree of worldwide coverage I guess I'll share it here too. I noticed that the bot sometimes removed the highway=* tag but left the oneway=* tag in place. At least here in the US, most such ways are a part of the interstate system and since

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-22 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I already shared this on talk-us but since I have some degree of worldwide coverage I guess I'll share it here too. I noticed that the bot sometimes removed the highway=* tag but left the oneway=* tag in place. At least

Re: [Talk-us] Map of bot node edits

2012-07-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Sax-Barnett, Melelani barne...@trimet.org wrote: Toby said: Alright... I got something running. http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/maps/redaction.html Thanks, Toby! I would love to see it zoomed in a little more if you get around to it. Today I added zoom 12. I

Re: [Talk-us] Routing tests

2012-07-21 Thread Toby Murray
I just made another set of tiles that should help find routing problems along interstates. I noticed that the bot often removed the highway=* tag but left the oneway=* tag. So I looked for ways with oneway tags without a highway tag. I had to filter out some common ones like waterway and ski

Re: [Talk-us] Routing tests

2012-07-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Right now it is only down to z10 but that is worldwide. Tomorrow I will see about making some higher zoom levels in higher density areas. I went ahead and did up to z13 in California, Arizona and Nevada. I think

Re: [Talk-us] Major Vandalism in the Charlotte, NC

2012-07-21 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Thanks for the heads up - otherwise I would have probably been checking out some of those interstates soon. I always wonder about the thought processes when this happens... A couple of times I have spotted this kind of

[Talk-us] Map of bot node edits

2012-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
Alright... I got something running. http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/maps/redaction.html It is a map that shows all nodes (but ONLY nodes) touched by the bot in the US and Canada. Actually I thought I was only doing the lower 48 but apparently Maperitive decided that I wanted more. I think it cuts

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Hello all, The damage in LA is much more severe: missing segments of freeways, roads gone. I thought the bot was supposed to be smart enough to subnstitute TIGER data when eliminating data by

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Everyone, Having looked over the damage and deletions for the last hour, I feel the redaction has left the LA map essentially unusable. Huge blocks of streets are missing, including major roads and some

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:05 AM, James Umbanhowar jumba...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:02:29 PM Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Everyone, Having looked over the damage and deletions

Re: [Talk-us] LA part of the map essentially is unusable

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: So, are you volunteering? Anyone else? Sure. I think I've already fixed up most of the bot damage in Kansas. I will be contributing in other places as I have time. LA will certainly be towards the top of my

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Post bot cleanup

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
And this time to the list... (cures you, lack of reply-to!) On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.com wrote: Toby's post yesterday using the modified live edit bot osmZmiany seems a good way to help focus on areas. Toby, do you think it possible to serialize

Re: [Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:32 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: is anyone else noticing some ways have a name, a one way direction, some other info, but no highway tag. so they dont actually render in potlatch 2. the only reason i noticed them way due to the oneway arrows being

[OSM-talk] Note to users of overapss/xapi like services (mirrored download and such)

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
I noticed today that since the license bot is going full throttle, my server hasn't been able to keep up with minutely diffs any more. Right now I'm about 4 hours behind. My server isn't exactly optimized for performance so this might not be affecting all users of minutely diffs but please beware

Re: [Talk-us] Redaction bot is heading our way!

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: What is this a screenshot of? OSMZmiany, do I read that right? Can you zoom in with that, too? On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Well, here is a brief overview of the bot's

Re: [Talk-us] Redaction bot is heading our way!

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Well, here is a brief overview of the bot's activities for today. There are still a couple of areas that errored out or are still in progress

[Talk-us] Note to users of overapss/xapi like services (mirrored download and such)

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
I noticed today that since the license bot is going full throttle, my server hasn't been able to keep up with minutely diffs any more. Right now I'm about 4 hours behind. My server isn't exactly optimized for performance so this might not be affecting all users of minutely diffs but please beware

[Talk-us] Post bot cleanup

2012-07-18 Thread Toby Murray
Now that we're cleaning up after the license bot, what problems are people seeing? I figure if we understand how the bot broke things, it might be easier to identify and fix. In talking on IRC just now, Kai found this offramp: http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/redaction_weird_offramp.png The going

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction and re-mapping

2012-07-13 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:58 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Pieren wrote: What would be nice is a slippy map highlighting all elements where user OSMF Redaction Account is the last modifier or destroyer. If you're happy to wait a day, you could do that with ITO's OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Update on redaction bot and minutely diffs

2012-07-13 Thread Toby Murray
Well, today the bot made it through a good chunk of the UK. It stopped for the night before getting through all of Scotland. Here is a visualization of its changes for the day: http://i.imgur.com/cOO37.png Also, I think this has already made it to a couple of mailing lists but in case someone

[OSM-talk] Update on redaction bot and minutely diffs

2012-07-12 Thread Toby Murray
As I mentioned yesterday, the bot caused some problems with minutely diffs. Andy just sent a more detailed message about the technical problems to the rebuild list but here is a quick update for the user side of things. Some invalid diffs were generated yesterday. These have been removed from

Re: [OSM-talk] Update on redaction bot and minutely diffs

2012-07-12 Thread Toby Murray
pretty quickly so if you were trailing behind on updates or if you only update periodically, your osmosis may not have gotten up to the invalid diffs and no action is required. So check the sequence number before replacing the state file. Toby On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur

Re: [Talk-us] railway=abandoned and mapping things that are not there any more?

2012-07-12 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Peter Dobratz wrote: I'm trying to get a better understanding of the railway=abandoned tag and see what the community thinks about it. FWIW there's been a similar discussion on talk-gb recently. The consensus

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction underway

2012-07-11 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: [posted to talk-ie@, announce@ and talk@; follow-ups to talk@ unless Ireland-specific] Hello all, The redaction process is now underway with Ireland as planned. Further updates will be posted to relevant lists

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-10 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:10 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 1:47 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Licence redaction ready to begin Test runs have shown that the bot is functioning as we want it to, but we will

[Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-dev] Licence redaction ready to begin

2012-07-09 Thread Toby Murray
Forwarding from talk/dev Note that the date given (9th) should be 11th So we may see things starting to happen here in the US within the next week or two. Toby -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM Subject:

Re: [Talk-us] US Road route relation conventions

2012-07-09 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: As part of the review and cleanup after the redaction bot, I am planning to go through and review state routes and create relations for them. There's been much good work in developing the Shields rendering scheme, and I would

[Talk-us] Scenic/Historic byways

2012-07-08 Thread Toby Murray
Just came across this while processing pictures from my bike across Kansas: http://i.imgur.com/bmiV2.jpg This is a sign for the Western Vistas historic byway. It even has a website: http://www.westernvistashistoricbyway.com/ Closer to home I have also seen a Scenic Byway sign. This seems to be

Re: [Talk-us] Scenic/Historic byways

2012-07-08 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/8/2012 3:20 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Just came across this while processing pictures from my bike across Kansas: http://i.imgur.com/bmiV2.jpg This is a sign for the Western Vistas historic byway. It even has

Re: [Talk-us] Scenic/Historic byways

2012-07-08 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Kevin Kenny kken...@nycap.rr.com wrote: On 07/08/2012 03:20 PM, Toby Murray wrote: Just came across this while processing pictures from my bike across Kansas: http://i.imgur.com/bmiV2.jpg This is a sign for the Western Vistas historic byway. It even has

Re: [OSM-talk] API not responding

2012-06-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 2012-06-25 07:12, Toby Murray wrote: According to some chatter I saw go past on IRC, ramoth (the database server) went offline for a while tonight. Admins were notified automatically and fixed it as soon as they were

Re: [OSM-talk] API not responding

2012-06-24 Thread Toby Murray
According to some chatter I saw go past on IRC, ramoth (the database server) went offline for a while tonight. Admins were notified automatically and fixed it as soon as they were able. Not sure if they determined a cause before going (back?) to bed. Toby

Re: [Talk-us] Work on Arizona rail lines deleted

2012-06-19 Thread Toby Murray
Can you please give a link to a specific location where your work was deleted? I found one location where one of the lines ends but using the Potlatch 1 undelete feature I'm not seeing any deleted ways in the area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.017245lon=-109.728267zoom=18layers=M Also,

Re: [Talk-us] Special issues in LA remap

2012-06-06 Thread Toby Murray
I kind of doubt reverting changesets would work out very well. Reverting a changeset becomes more difficult as time goes on and things in that changeset are touched by other users. Then you get into conflicts and other odd situations that are hard to handle. I did some remapping in LA from TIGER

Re: [OSM-talk] Old versions of OSM?

2012-05-30 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Is it possible to view an older rendering of OSM, such as how an area was mapped earlier this year/last year. I don't know of a service where you can travel back arbitrarily in time... but there are some map providers

Re: [OSM-talk] An indoor airport

2012-05-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:52 AM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: The fence around an airport here (Bishkek in Kyrgyzstan): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.83491lon=74.5764zoom=16layers=M Seems to have been tagged building = yes, building:levels = 2.  I'm sure it gets

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-29 Thread Toby Murray
Hmm I seem to recall a stnav company accepting speed limit information from users and then having the problem that people set the roads in front of their houses to a speed limit of 0 so that the satnav routing would avoid it... wasn't that TomTom? Toby

Re: [OSM-talk] An indoor airport

2012-05-29 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Toby Murray writes:   I pointed out this error before the edit was made but apparently   community feedback was not respected before the automated edit was   run...     http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N

2012-05-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Worst Fixer worstfi...@gmail.com wrote: Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. I think that should be done only when the

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Worst Fixer worstfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Most of ele=0.0|0|0.000 tags were produced by bad import scripts or automatical GPS track conversion software. I downloaded all ele=0 elements. There are a couple hundred that are obviously bad but a

Re: [Talk-us] Blocking of user WorstFixer for removing ele=0 etc

2012-05-15 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2012-05-13 02:49, Frederik Ramm wrote: Removing ele=0 from objects is, in my opinion, totally unnecessary; And maybe incorrect, as ele=0 means we know the elevation is 0, while no ele tag means we do not know

Re: [Talk-us] NHD data changes

2012-05-07 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I've been looking at the NHD data from the USGS site and have noticed a few recent changes from how they were described on the wiki. 1. The viewer has changed. http://viewer.nationalmap.gov/viewer/nhd.html will bring up a map

Re: [Talk-us] First bona fide mini-roundabout spotted

2012-05-07 Thread Toby Murray
I just downloaded all highway=mini_roundabout nodes and just browsed around a bit comparing the nodes to Bing imagery. There are a *lot* of turning circles tagged as mini roundabouts. And not just in North America. Some of them are turning circles with an island in the middle but many of them are

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno castradal imports

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Do those individual polygons have any useful information on them (addresses, for example)? If so, we should generate addr points from their centroids. Either way, we could save useful OSM information by creating a new polygon

Re: [Talk-us] Address placement (was: Fresno castradal imports)

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
Moving this to a new thread because there is no address data in the Fresno import so this discussion is completely irrelevant. I believe NE2 started a thread about this a while ago and there wasn't too much response but since it came up again... On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Paul Johnson

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno castradal imports

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Brett Lord-Casitllo marigol...@yahoo.com wrote: That keys you into everythingelse you might want: address, land value, building value, FIRM map, etc. But in this case that's kind of the point... the parcel ID would only be useful for you to go into the already

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno castradal imports

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: If parcel data is important to disaster response, I would expect the responder to go get the most up to date data from the source, not use stale data that

Re: [Talk-us] 25or6to4 NHD imports

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
From: Jason Straub [mailto:strau...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 1:44 AM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] 25or6to4 NHD imports Howdy,  After discussion with Toby, I am updating the list with my import efforts.  First, hopefully this message goes through, as

Re: [Talk-us] Are US freeway relation licensing issues being worked on?

2012-05-04 Thread Toby Murray
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I have taken care to repair the relations when remapping freeways. We can run an analysis after all is said and done and create a wiki to resolve the remaining issues together. Martijn On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:16 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Disconnected streets in Lima

2012-05-02 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: I'm working with Rub21 right now on improving Lima. We're finding a lot of disconnected streets there. What's the story behind these? I'm seeing that at least some of the remaining streets are by user Telecom IP - I'll be

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-05-02 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote: ISTM this might be a good mechanical turk application if there is genuine concern that there will be a substantial error rate (my point-of-view as a social scientist is that a hypothesized 1/1000 error rate is pretty

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing TIGER street name abbreviations

2012-04-30 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Apr 30, 2012 5:00 PM, David Litke dwli...@comcast.net wrote: I just did a few manual TIGER reviews in JOSM and got a validation warning that words like Street and Avenue were abbreviated as St and Ave. So I wonder if

Re: [Talk-us] Parks, etc. Points or outlines

2012-04-25 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/24/2012 10:21 PM, Toby Murray wrote: I think the reason they exist is the same reason why cities always have a node in addition to their administrative boundaries. And states/countries too far that matter. Most

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