or
in Japan highway=trunk is used like a highway=super-primary tag even if the
road is a urban street or a classic road (example :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.62060/-0.78353).
Should it be harmonized to the England standard ?
djakk
he N57, primary
highway between a trunk and a motorway, becomes trunk in the new tagging
system ...
An other example, each European road which is not a motorway should be
tagged as a trunk road , it is not currently the case in France :
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/42344655#map=15/46.4275/0.630
"strategic" may not be the right word (my english is rusty :) )
The thing is, I want to avoid those dotted highway=trunk like this :
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/48.5884/-1.4035 (trunk then primary
in the town then trunk again), I'd prefer trunk - still trunk in the town -
trunk, like in
use the
English model all over the world than the one with the motor road sign. The
latter model can still exist thanks to motorroad=yes.
djakk
Le sam. 19 août 2017 à 21:29, Marc Gemis a écrit :
> As you can see from
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equiv
>
> So basically: please don't go adjusting roads in the US away from
> established rough consensus because you think it ought to be different.
Of course ;-)
Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 04:00, Greg Troxel a écrit :
>
> djakk djakk writes:
>
> > In England and Japan
I'm pretty sure that the use of "trunk" in UK or in Japan is about the
importance of the road, not about its characteristics :
https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/vBqrj5uGYBw05cd57g9TAg (this is the trunk
road linked in my previous mail ; there is pavement on the right side)
Why I want to do that ? T
Well, it is technically possible, but I was thinking about performance and
stylesheet-maintenance issues ;)
Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 12:49, ajt1...@gmail.com a
écrit :
> On 20/08/2017 11:36, djakk djakk wrote:
> >
> > Why I want to do that ? To improve openstreetmap, this is a wo
Actualy, "highway=*" shuffles importance and characteristic of roads. May
we add an "importance" key to roads ?
djakk
Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 13:14, djakk djakk a écrit :
> Well, it is technically possible, but I was thinking about performance and
> stylesheet-main
ester Caine a écrit :
> On 21/08/17 21:09, djakk djakk wrote:
> > Actualy, "highway=*" shuffles importance and characteristic of roads.
> > May we add an "importance" key to roads ?
>
> Having spent the last week using OSMAND to navigate around the
> W
Yes Martin, I meant "physical characteristics". In the US, a road is tagged
"trunk" according to its physical characteristics, as Greg said previously
in this thread.
Le mar. 22 août 2017 à 11:06, Martin Koppenhoefer
a écrit :
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>
The thing is, I'm annoyed when there is a primary in the middle of a trunk
road (example : https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/44.3996/-70.9439)
whereas in the U.K. this does not exist ... tagging rules should be as
generic as possible, should not they ?
djakk
Le mer. 23 août 2017 à
tagging system shuffles those 5 keys, "motorway" implies 2)
motorway signs 3) no at-grade intersections 4) large lanes 5) asphalt
surface, but for 1) it could be super-primary or just primary (think about
suburban motorways network).
djakk
Le mer. 23 août 2017 à 11:14, djakk djakk a écri
motorway but it has a sidewalk)
djakk
Le mer. 23 août 2017 à 13:33, Martin Koppenhoefer
a écrit :
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> On 23. Aug 2017, at 11:54, djakk djakk wrote:
>
> I think there are five keys to tag a road :
> 1) its importance in the network (super-pri
; as used in Japan or UK, with trunk as
super-primary, or a new key "importance" which almost duplicates the
highway value (trunk or super_primary, primary, secondary, tertiary,
quaternary, local)
Maybe I should make a test map and come back later :)
djakk
2017-08-24 2:09 GMT+02:00 Greg
Wikidata+OSM as the long name, and w+OSM or wOSM as the short name ? :)
2017-09-16 23:11 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan :
> The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most
> important thing - a good name. So far my two choices are:
>
> * wikosm
> * wikidosm
>
> Suggestions? Vote
Hello,
I totally agree with you, the definition you provide, administrative-free,
tends to the same osm map between countries.
djakk
Le jeu. 15 févr. 2018 à 19:18, Fernando Trebien
a écrit :
> Landing on this discussion several months late. I've just heard of it
> by reading a wik
I know that « trunk » is country-dependent but why not moving it to a
worldwide definition ? Administrative classification could be moved to
other tags :)
djakk
Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 16:06, Matej Lieskovský
a écrit :
> Greetings
> I'd like to caution against using this system g
Don’t worry, when the official system is good, lik in Czechia, it matches
Fernando’s suggestion :)
djakk
Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 18:32, Matej Lieskovský
a écrit :
> Don't get me wrong, this system might work well for countries without an
> official system, but what do you expect t
lanes, surface, width) it could
replace the highway tag.
It is probably easier to make new tags than changing old tags :)
djakk
Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 20:44, Matej Lieskovský
a écrit :
> Could we perhaps start a wiki page to collect information on how every
> country classifies roads? Som
I would tag the amount of traffic (official count or estimation) + the
width of the lanes (bidirectional with no hard shoulder ?) + an
appropriated renderer to show heavy traffic + narrow road with a thin red
stroke.
Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 21:28, Mark Wagner a écrit :
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:
Yes, but this rendering does not change when a road crosses a border ^^
djakk
Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 05:43, JB a écrit :
> There is something I don't get.
> Draw primary the same color as trunk and you have no more «
> discontinuity »?
> In France, some commercial map (the m
highway= trunk ? (value that are
country-dependant are not that common, aren’t they ?)
djakk
Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 10:07, Matej Lieskovský
a écrit :
> 1) If you want to look at a professional map of Czechia, I'd recommend
> www.mapy.cz over google maps as that is the most used a
Matej, you don’t have to answer quickly, you can answer one time per week
if you prefer, the strong arguments will still weight well :)
djakk
Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 10:30, djakk djakk a écrit :
> There is 2 « independant » things in the debate :
> 1) trunk definition - what is a tr
Yes, we should be able to tag secondary motorway or secondary motorroads. (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/48.8719/2.4496 -
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.57211/-2.82279)
djakk
Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 13:34, Fernando Trebien
a écrit :
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 7:16 AM, Ma
In addition of the « traffic » tag, there could be the « importance » tag
(already use for railways - regional or national), with 5 values :
neighbourhood, city, regional, national, continental.
The example of the trunk road around Island : traffic=low,
importance=national :)
djakk
Le sam. 24
I don’t get why highway=footway + area=yes is considered as wrong tagging !
djakk
Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 12:52, Tomasz Wójcik a écrit :
> As highway=footway etc. tags are set to "should not be used on areas" on
> Wiki, and mapping them in combination with area=yes is not doc
A linear road is also a surface, the surface is useless at zoom=8 but
useful at zoom=16.
Like waterways, both can coexist.
djakk
Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 18:19, Tobias Knerr a écrit :
> On 08.08.2018 12:49, Tomasz Wójcik wrote:
> > Due to our rules, that we shouldn't have 2
No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual
generalization ;)
djakk
Le ven. 10 août 2018 à 12:15, Andy Townsend a écrit :
>
> > So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't
> incorrect, it's just not documented.
>
>
Well, it is possible for a human to memorize it :)
Julien « djakk »
Le lun. 19 nov. 2018 à 17:22, Mateusz Konieczny a
écrit :
> It is still not clear to me why new way of writing latitude and longitude
> is supposed to be interesting.
>
> 19. Nov 2018 16:43 by drinc...@google.co
Hello ! For this kind of tagging, which is as subjective as the
highway=secondary, there should be a consensus of local mappers.
This kind of areas could be tagged as “you need to know the area to be safe
among locals” :-)
Julien “djakk”
Le lun. 6 janv. 2020 à 05:23, Paul Johnson a écrit
Hello Mark !
I have tried this too :
http://itineraires.de.bus.free.fr
With parallel lines and generalization :)
Julien “djakk”
Le dim. 26 janv. 2020 à 05:41, Mark Lester via talk
a écrit :
> Hello Mappers,
> I've been building this http://buz-map.com, there's a couple of re
Hello Tom,
About vector tiles : I have managed to render some vector tiles on
heroku : https://github.com/djakk/openstreetmap-on-heroku
The database is populated thanks to osm2pgsql. Rendering is done by mapnik.
Maybe you can adapt it to your server ?
Julien "djakk" J
Le jeu. 2 juil.
32 matches
Mail list logo