[OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-18 Thread djakk djakk
or in Japan highway=trunk is used like a highway=super-primary tag even if the road is a urban street or a classic road (example : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.62060/-0.78353). Should it be harmonized to the England standard ? djakk

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread djakk djakk
he N57, primary highway between a trunk and a motorway, becomes trunk in the new tagging system ... An other example, each European road which is not a motorway should be tagged as a trunk road , it is not currently the case in France : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/42344655#map=15/46.4275/0.630

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread djakk djakk
"strategic" may not be the right word (my english is rusty :) ) The thing is, I want to avoid those dotted highway=trunk like this : https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/48.5884/-1.4035 (trunk then primary in the town then trunk again), I'd prefer trunk - still trunk in the town - trunk, like in

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-19 Thread djakk djakk
use the English model all over the world than the one with the motor road sign. The latter model can still exist thanks to motorroad=yes. djakk Le sam. 19 août 2017 à 21:29, Marc Gemis a écrit : > As you can see from > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equiv

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread djakk djakk
> > So basically: please don't go adjusting roads in the US away from > established rough consensus because you think it ought to be different. Of course ;-) Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 04:00, Greg Troxel a écrit : > > djakk djakk writes: > > > In England and Japan

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread djakk djakk
I'm pretty sure that the use of "trunk" in UK or in Japan is about the importance of the road, not about its characteristics : https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/vBqrj5uGYBw05cd57g9TAg (this is the trunk road linked in my previous mail ; there is pavement on the right side) Why I want to do that ? T

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-20 Thread djakk djakk
Well, it is technically possible, but I was thinking about performance and stylesheet-maintenance issues ;) Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 12:49, ajt1...@gmail.com a écrit : > On 20/08/2017 11:36, djakk djakk wrote: > > > > Why I want to do that ? To improve openstreetmap, this is a wo

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-21 Thread djakk djakk
Actualy, "highway=*" shuffles importance and characteristic of roads. May we add an "importance" key to roads ? djakk Le dim. 20 août 2017 à 13:14, djakk djakk a écrit : > Well, it is technically possible, but I was thinking about performance and > stylesheet-main

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread djakk djakk
ester Caine a écrit : > On 21/08/17 21:09, djakk djakk wrote: > > Actualy, "highway=*" shuffles importance and characteristic of roads. > > May we add an "importance" key to roads ? > > Having spent the last week using OSMAND to navigate around the > W

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-22 Thread djakk djakk
Yes Martin, I meant "physical characteristics". In the US, a road is tagged "trunk" according to its physical characteristics, as Greg said previously in this thread. Le mar. 22 août 2017 à 11:06, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > > sent from a phone > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-23 Thread djakk djakk
The thing is, I'm annoyed when there is a primary in the middle of a trunk road (example : https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/44.3996/-70.9439) whereas in the U.K. this does not exist ... tagging rules should be as generic as possible, should not they ? djakk Le mer. 23 août 2017 à

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-23 Thread djakk djakk
tagging system shuffles those 5 keys, "motorway" implies 2) motorway signs 3) no at-grade intersections 4) large lanes 5) asphalt surface, but for 1) it could be super-primary or just primary (think about suburban motorways network). djakk Le mer. 23 août 2017 à 11:14, djakk djakk a écri

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-23 Thread djakk djakk
motorway but it has a sidewalk) djakk Le mer. 23 août 2017 à 13:33, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > > sent from a phone > > On 23. Aug 2017, at 11:54, djakk djakk wrote: > > I think there are five keys to tag a road : > 1) its importance in the network (super-pri

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2017-08-27 Thread djakk djakk
; as used in Japan or UK, with trunk as super-primary, or a new key "importance" which almost duplicates the highway value (trunk or super_primary, primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary, local) Maybe I should make a test map and come back later :) djakk 2017-08-24 2:09 GMT+02:00 Greg

Re: [OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

2017-09-16 Thread djakk djakk
Wikidata+OSM as the long name, and w+OSM or wOSM as the short name ? :) 2017-09-16 23:11 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan : > The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most > important thing - a good name. So far my two choices are: > > * wikosm > * wikidosm > > Suggestions? Vote

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-22 Thread djakk djakk
Hello, I totally agree with you, the definition you provide, administrative-free, tends to the same osm map between countries. djakk Le jeu. 15 févr. 2018 à 19:18, Fernando Trebien a écrit : > Landing on this discussion several months late. I've just heard of it > by reading a wik

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
I know that « trunk » is country-dependent but why not moving it to a worldwide definition ? Administrative classification could be moved to other tags :) djakk Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 16:06, Matej Lieskovský a écrit : > Greetings > I'd like to caution against using this system g

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
Don’t worry, when the official system is good, lik in Czechia, it matches Fernando’s suggestion :) djakk Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 18:32, Matej Lieskovský a écrit : > Don't get me wrong, this system might work well for countries without an > official system, but what do you expect t

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
lanes, surface, width) it could replace the highway tag. It is probably easier to make new tags than changing old tags :) djakk Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 20:44, Matej Lieskovský a écrit : > Could we perhaps start a wiki page to collect information on how every > country classifies roads? Som

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
I would tag the amount of traffic (official count or estimation) + the width of the lanes (bidirectional with no hard shoulder ?) + an appropriated renderer to show heavy traffic + narrow road with a thin red stroke. Le ven. 23 févr. 2018 à 21:28, Mark Wagner a écrit : > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread djakk djakk
Yes, but this rendering does not change when a road crosses a border ^^ djakk Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 05:43, JB a écrit : > There is something I don't get. > Draw primary the same color as trunk and you have no more « > discontinuity »? > In France, some commercial map (the m

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread djakk djakk
highway= trunk ? (value that are country-dependant are not that common, aren’t they ?) djakk Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 10:07, Matej Lieskovský a écrit : > 1) If you want to look at a professional map of Czechia, I'd recommend > www.mapy.cz over google maps as that is the most used a

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread djakk djakk
Matej, you don’t have to answer quickly, you can answer one time per week if you prefer, the strong arguments will still weight well :) djakk Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 10:30, djakk djakk a écrit : > There is 2 « independant » things in the debate : > 1) trunk definition - what is a tr

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread djakk djakk
Yes, we should be able to tag secondary motorway or secondary motorroads. ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/48.8719/2.4496 - https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/48.57211/-2.82279) djakk Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 13:34, Fernando Trebien a écrit : > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 7:16 AM, Ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread djakk djakk
In addition of the « traffic » tag, there could be the « importance » tag (already use for railways - regional or national), with 5 values : neighbourhood, city, regional, national, continental. The example of the trunk road around Island : traffic=low, importance=national :) djakk Le sam. 24

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-08 Thread djakk djakk
I don’t get why highway=footway + area=yes is considered as wrong tagging ! djakk Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 12:52, Tomasz Wójcik a écrit : > As highway=footway etc. tags are set to "should not be used on areas" on > Wiki, and mapping them in combination with area=yes is not doc

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-08 Thread djakk djakk
A linear road is also a surface, the surface is useless at zoom=8 but useful at zoom=16. Like waterways, both can coexist. djakk Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 18:19, Tobias Knerr a écrit : > On 08.08.2018 12:49, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > > Due to our rules, that we shouldn't have 2

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-10 Thread djakk djakk
No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization ;) djakk Le ven. 10 août 2018 à 12:15, Andy Townsend a écrit : > > > So basing on your opinions, it looks like highway=* + area=yes isn't > incorrect, it's just not documented. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Plus code grid service

2018-11-19 Thread djakk djakk
Well, it is possible for a human to memorize it :) Julien « djakk » Le lun. 19 nov. 2018 à 17:22, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > It is still not clear to me why new way of writing latitude and longitude > is supposed to be interesting. > > 19. Nov 2018 16:43 by drinc...@google.co

Re: [OSM-talk] no-go-areas

2020-01-05 Thread Julien djakk
Hello ! For this kind of tagging, which is as subjective as the highway=secondary, there should be a consensus of local mappers. This kind of areas could be tagged as “you need to know the area to be safe among locals” :-) Julien “djakk” Le lun. 6 janv. 2020 à 05:23, Paul Johnson a écrit

Re: [OSM-talk] BuzMap - Global Transit Map http://buz-map.com

2020-01-27 Thread Julien djakk
Hello Mark ! I have tried this too : http://itineraires.de.bus.free.fr With parallel lines and generalization :) Julien “djakk” Le dim. 26 janv. 2020 à 05:41, Mark Lester via talk a écrit : > Hello Mappers, > I've been building this http://buz-map.com, there's a couple of re

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

2020-07-02 Thread Julien djakk
Hello Tom, About vector tiles : I have managed to render some vector tiles on heroku : https://github.com/djakk/openstreetmap-on-heroku The database is populated thanks to osm2pgsql. Rendering is done by mapnik. Maybe you can adapt it to your server ? Julien "djakk" J Le jeu. 2 juil.