Matej, you don’t have to answer quickly, you can answer one time per week if you prefer, the strong arguments will still weight well :)
djakk Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 10:30, djakk djakk <djakk.dj...@gmail.com> a écrit : > There is 2 « independant » things in the debate : > 1) trunk definition - what is a trunk, a motorway-like road - based on > physical characteristics- or a super-primary road - based on the importance > ? > 2) wordwilde trunk definition ? - should we have the same definition all > over the world of what is highway= trunk ? (value that are > country-dependant are not that common, aren’t they ?) > > djakk > > > Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 10:07, Matej Lieskovský < > lieskovsky.ma...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> 1) If you want to look at a professional map of Czechia, I'd recommend >> www.mapy.cz over google maps as that is the most used and far more >> detailed map. >> 2) I agree that the discontinuities are ugly, but they reflect the state >> on the ground. That section around Sulec is a trunk instead of a primary >> due to the fact that it is a section of future motorway built to motorway >> standard. While your system heavily preferences "importance" of roads, our >> local system reflects reality. Declaring the entire road from Pilsen to >> České Budějovice as trunk due to its importance loses the information that >> there is a section that was built as a motorway link to Písek. I can >> already tell that the road is important because it links Pilsen and České >> Budějovice (by looking at the map), but I also want to know that it was >> built as a primary road and not as a trunk - that means that I'm going to >> expect more single-level junctions and only two lanes for most of the way. >> >> I agree, our trunk roads are a little fuzzy on their definition, but >> elevating random primary roads to trunk is a loss of data for us. Touching >> anything else than reclassifying primary to trunk et vice versa will >> certainly be considered as vandalism in Czechia. >> >> You are demonstrating that you can guess the road class from other data. >> I think it's cute, but does not match on-the-ground data in countries where >> road classification is well-defined. >> >> Look, I've spent a lot of time on this and I have better things to do. >> Fill in the info for your regions on the wiki and then we can see what we >> can do. Until then, bear in mind that "harmonising" European roads will >> likely get you banned. I don't want to sound like I'm threatening you, but >> I've probably spent all the time I'm willing to spend on arguing with some >> random person who wants to break our local road classification system >> "because it will look nicer". >> >> On 24 February 2018 at 07:59, djakk djakk <djakk.dj...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, but this rendering does not change when a road crosses a border ^^ >>> >>> djakk >>> >>> >>> Le sam. 24 févr. 2018 à 05:43, JB <jb...@mailoo.org> a écrit : >>> >>>> There is something I don't get. >>>> Draw primary the same color as trunk and you have no more « >>>> discontinuity »? >>>> In France, some commercial map (the most sold, I think) use a different >>>> rendering for trunk and primary, because you drive faster on trunks. I >>>> like it, I think they like it, because they have been using this >>>> rendering for decades. >>>> JB. >>>> >>>> Le 24/02/2018 à 04:45, Fernando Trebien a écrit : >>>> > As an exercise (and I'm curious about your thoughts on this), I found >>>> > the main routes between place=city within Czechia (didn't have time to >>>> > include cities in adjacent countries, bear that in mind). >>>> > >>>> > Here's the result [1] using the old colour scheme (motorway=blue, >>>> > trunk=green, primary=red; with a little mistake: secondary=yellow). >>>> > Top image uses the current classifications, and bottom image is the >>>> > result if city-city routes are classified as trunks. Looks very >>>> > similar to most other maps. Just by looking at it, it's quite obvious >>>> > which is the main route between each pair of cities. As expected, the >>>> > method also found out the best ways through and around Praha when >>>> > going across it. This could also be slightly improved - for example, >>>> > with little extra time, it is easier to recommend going through route >>>> > 6 and then Karlovarská than through route 5 and Bucharova. >>>> > >>>> > I've checked the three small secondary segments using Street View. >>>> > Their physical structure is quite good. If still considered >>>> > undersirable, there are alternative main ways that increase the total >>>> > time of travel very slightly. Not all routers agreed on taking them >>>> > anyway. >>>> > >>>> > [1] https://i.imgur.com/qFGSveX.jpg >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > talk mailing list >>>> > talk@openstreetmap.org >>>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> talk mailing list >>>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> talk mailing list >>> talk@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>> >>> >>
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