Re: [OSM-talk] Article sur Geovelo dans l Usine Nouvelle

2020-12-15 Thread THEVENON Julien via talk
>> Bonjour, >> Un article sur Geovelo dans l Usine >> Nouvelle>>https://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/geovelo-l-appli-qui-federe-utilisateurs-et-collectivites-autour-de-la-pratique-du-deux-roues.N1034384 Hi, Sorry for that, wrong mailing list CheersJulien

[OSM-talk] Article sur Geovelo dans l Usine Nouvelle

2020-12-15 Thread THEVENON Julien via talk
Bonjour, Un article sur Geovelo dans l Usine Nouvellehttps://www.usinenouvelle.com/article/geovelo-l-appli-qui-federe-utilisateurs-et-collectivites-autour-de-la-pratique-du-deux-roues.N1034384 Julien ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://l

Re: [OSM-talk] expanded outdoor map on www.freemap.sk/?layers=X

2020-07-10 Thread THEVENON Julien via talk
Le jeudi 9 juillet 2020 à 21:41:06 UTC+2, Martin Ždila a écrit : Hello, > Let me announce that we have expanded our outdoor map to more (european) > countries. You can see it in action at www.freemap.sk/?layers=X > Most of it is the work of a single person (me) doing it in his free time and

Re: [OSM-talk] an interesting read about Mapillary-Facebook

2020-07-01 Thread THEVENON Julien via talk
Le mercredi 1 juillet 2020 à 12:13:31 UTC+2, mbranco2 a écrit : > - "Why on Earth did Facebook Just Acquire Mapillary?",  by Joe Morrison > [1]Linked in the previous article, another interesting paper:- "Corporate > Editors in the Evolving Landscape of OpenStreetMap" [2] > Very interestrin

Re: [OSM-talk] #AttributionIsNotOptional experiment on OSM France tile servers

2020-03-12 Thread THEVENON Julien via talk
Le jeudi 12 mars 2020 à 15:43:17 UTC+1, Simon Poole a écrit : > To use a completely different example: assume that you purchase a TV set paid > by monthly instalments and you default on them. In civilised countries that > doesn't give the seller the right to break in to your apartment and repo

[OSM-talk] ODBL, Trivial_Transformations and Specialised format databases

2015-10-01 Thread THEVENON Julien
Hi all, I ask myself a question about specialised proprietary format database used in some applications like by example smartphone routing applications. Quite often these applications propose you to dowwnload some map files if you want to use them Offline. The issue I see with this is that user

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM down?

2015-03-24 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Glenn Plas Same here.  There is indeed an issue on www.openstreetmap.org According to this site http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.openstreetmap.org  www.openstreetmap.org is up  Cheers Julien ___ talk mailing list talk@

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France "BANO" project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Simon Poole That is completely incorrect, there was never any Australian government CC by-SA data in OSM. The data in question was licensed CC by which required permission from the respective offices that attribution via our website was acceptable, the permission

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France "BANO" project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Martin Koppenhoefer Share alike licensed data should IMHO not be imported into osm because it makes another license change practically impossible (at least not without data loss, and unfortunately not only the originally imported data but also everything built on it). H

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France "BANO" project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Tobias Knerr Hi Julien, the relevant part of the CT was introduced so that OSM would not have to suffer such a painful loss again. Ideally, it should be possible to decide on a license change purely based on the merits of the proposed new license. Hi Tobias

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France "BANO" project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Tobias Knerr À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 15 mai 2014 17h51 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France "BANO" project... openaddresses in France The relicensing clause is there for a reason: The community in 10 years will mostly consist of completely di

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-13 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Alex Barth Hello everyone - I've been sitting on writing about the detrimental effects of OpenStreetMap's share-alike license (ODbL) for a while and finally decided to, um, share. I've been listening long to many OpenStreetMappers I respect a ton telling me it's not so ba

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-07 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Mike > I guess you are all both right and wrong on this matter and thus because > you are loking from single angle only. > [...] > If object is split, one part preserves existing ID and other parts are > considered as new objects with new ID's assigned. Hi I quite agree with Mike. P

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: Branding?

2013-03-01 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le sam. 23 févr. 2013 10:58 HNEC, Simon Poole a écrit : > >The "relatively restrictive" is conjecture by you. > >At least my intention is have a as liberal as possible policy that still >makes it clear that we want usage of the relevant names/marks to be >non-co

Re: [OSM-talk] Qualité des sources de données

2013-02-01 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Abba Asmaou Hi Abba, I think that your message should be sent to French mailing list ( talk...@openstreetmap.org ) The subscription page is here : http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr Cheers Julien___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: RFC - OSM contributor mark

2013-01-16 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le mer. 16 janv. 2013 20:58 HNEC, Kai Krueger a écrit : >Hi, > >may I throw a related, but slightly different concept, out there for >discussion? > >I think some of the confusion between "contributor mark" and "attribution >mark" is that they may be entirely dif

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: OpenStreetMap Future Look

2013-01-09 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le mer. 9 janv. 2013 13:26 HNEC, Paweł Paprota a écrit : >Projects like OSM do not run on fairy dust and rainbows. Yesterday I >watched Jimmy Wales (founder of Wikipedia) on The Colbert Report talk >show and he was talking about Wikipedia's strategy and budget.

Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)

2013-01-07 Thread THEVENON Julien
Hi Pawel, Could it be possible to integrate the user classification visible here ( http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc) by example by adding the same coloured man icon on the right of OSM User link. IMHO it could be very usefull to know if an edit has been done by a new user of a senior user m

Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)

2013-01-04 Thread THEVENON Julien
Very nice feature ! Julien > > De : Paweł Paprota >À : talk@openstreetmap.org >Envoyé le : Vendredi 4 janvier 2013 0h01 >Objet : [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta) > >Hi all, > >For some time now I've been working on the OpenStreetMap

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: How to improve addressing?

2012-12-28 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le ven. 28 déc. 2012 10:47 HNEC, Frederik Ramm a écrit : >Hi, > >On 11/12/12 14:56, Russ Nelson wrote: >> What if the Presets/Annotation/Addresses dialog box wasn't modal (like >> the relations editor, where it lets you continue to edit), and had a >> "Apply and

Re: [OSM-talk] ebook maps

2012-12-12 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Hendrik Siedelmann > In the > corners of every page are the page numbers of the next zoom level for > the respective quadrant. At the endpoints of the cross that is visible > at every page, there are the page numbers for north/south/... Sorry I missed these numbers... Cheers Julien_

Re: [OSM-talk] ebook maps

2012-12-12 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Hendrik Siedelmann > Hello, > all possibilities to render maps as ebooks (or for print) that I found were > relatively limited (only raster images and/or limited number of pages). > So I tried something new: >https://technik-stinkt.de/~hendrik/maps/ > What do you think? Hi Hendrik, Thi

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-19 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Paul Norman > If the French community has contact info (email preferred) for someone who > speaks both English and French and is willing to take on dealing with > contacting users and getting them to use dedicated accounts I'd welcome it. But you already have it (  Christian Quest ;and Sly

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Martin Koppenhoefer > My French is a bit rusty but I think that this is the crucial part: " > non soumise aux droits patrimoniaux d’auteur" > Now compare to this paragraph: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cadastre_Fran%C3%A7ais/Conditions_d%27utilisation#La_r.C3.A9ponse_d

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread THEVENON Julien
Hi Martin, You forgot to put the French list in cc > There is generally a problem with entering data for which you are not > the full rights holder and which is not in the PD. The data you > import/merge has strings attached (requires attribution which may not > be removed) which might lead to r

[OSM-talk] Réf.: RE: Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le ven. 28 sept. 2012 08:00 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : >> From: THEVENON Julien [mailto:julien_theve...@yahoo.fr] >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:14 PM >> To: penor...@mac.com; cqu...@openstreetmap.fr; si...@poole.ch >> Cc

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le jeu. 27 sept. 2012 20:18 HAEC, Sarah Hoffmann a écrit : >> This is the real problem for us. > >For the sake of completeness: planetwide there are currently >152 million objects. Which means 1/6th of the planet consists of >French buildings. Now, there is a re

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le ven. 28 sept. 2012 02:13 HAEC, Paul Norman a écrit : > >Obviously buildings are part of it, but is there a list of what else? > Hi, I don't think there is a list. the information that you can find are highway references,street names,city boundaries,cemeter

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Sarah Hoffmann Hi Sarah, Sorry for this late response and hope to make debate less passionate. > I don't know which data you have been looking at, but let's ask Nominatim, shall we? Great idea, this is always good to discuss about facts Ok, so by example could you extract stats from Gr

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Lester Caine > The 'two accounts' is a bit of red herring here - in my opinion - but similarly JUST uploading buildings is pointless? Not at all. This is the heart of the problem for a lot of french contributors !!! as already mentionned raw building import is the expection but you are

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Lester Caine > Looking at the imagery or some other source if you are an arm chair mapper, > or driving around with the GPS tracker if you want a run in the country. > THEN adding buildings using the other sources. Even just looking at what is > available on potlatch for France, there i

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
>De : Martin Koppenhoefer > +1, usually (at least in some cities I checked) "housenumbers" are > identifying a whole parcel (exceptions exist), IMHO better then > assigning them to a single house as Simon suggested it would be to add > them to the whole parcel (I guess you have these also availab

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
>De : SomeoneElse >Maybe it's a work in progress: >http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.99103&lon=0.33956&zoom=15&layers=M Or there are some people that think this is a good way to highlight where some roads are missing. Personnaly I prefer to draw roads and building at the same time to have m

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
De :Jean-Marc Liotier Because the cadastre work is an armchair mapping process whereas the address tagging requires local survey. They are often done by two different type of contributors. On top of that as the cadastre distinguish light buildings and buildings, house with

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Simon Poole > Supposedly the cadastre includes street names and house numbers, however of the 27 million buildings (plus 6 million wall=no) only a minuscule number have further information attached, matter of fact there are more nodes with addresses tagged in France t

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-27 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Lester Caine Many of the buildings moving away from the one identified simply do not even fit the footprint on the bing imagery ? What make you so sure that the thruth is in imagery and not in cadastre ? particulary considering that Bing is often several year late and that

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
-- Le mer. 26 sept. 2012 21:48 HAEC, Lester Caine a écrit >Looking at the source material, there is nothing which can be used to separate >the blocks displayed into separate buildings, and since we have no means of >identifying different levels of building, addin

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Lester Caine Now that I understand what is going on, I can see where some off the 'extra' lines come from, and the diagonal is probably due to a boundary detail from changing sheets. This is more often due to split of landuse ownership. There is no differences between this line

Re: [OSM-talk] All you've ever wanted to know about the french cadastre

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Frederik Ramm To give an example, look at this imported building http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/funnybuilding.png Note how the main building consists of 8 separate parts plus a strange diagonal line, and note how the smallest parts are just about 2 metres wide.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Lester Caine Sees the light :) Great ! SO while we have this type of raster data from as a background in potlatch and josm and some elements of it in vector files from OS and other sources. You are having to stitch together 'pictures' and then your 'automatic processing'

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Lester Caine But I'm still not clear if that is done of a properly geo-referenced overlay/layer? The initial automatic process would be creating that layer although I would accept that keeping historic versions is something that could be a cost that nobody will cover? yes the a

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
>>>> De : THEVENON Julien >>>> You can have cadastre has overlay in JOSM using french cadastre plugin. >>>> If you want to perform the test on Saint Galmier you will have to install the plugin in JOSM, restart JOSM. Change the projection to "Lamber

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Lester Caine That has been a previous request :) The google translation is a little strange. OK I was not aware about that And if we can automate that process it would help you? The add of source tag is already automatic I'm just repeating things that were bein

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Richard Fairhurst Because it's not just about scripts and bots. The Cadastre situation, which started all of this off, is often people loading .osm files into JOSM, running a quick validator check over it, and uploading. In terms of impact on the map and on the communit

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Peter Wendorff Yes, it is part of the import process, as it's the main preparation of the import. When we "import" a list of facilities we get from a third party, e.g. the fuel station import last year, most of the time the raw data is not fitting to osm ne

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-26 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Lester Caine Hi Lester I do get the impression that the Cadastre import has it's own rules on how to use it, and those are only available in French, which irritates. You mean you would appreciate a translation of French Cadastre wiki page ? But it does need to follow the g

[OSM-talk] Réf.: Re: Proposal for import guidelines

2012-09-25 Thread THEVENON Julien
Le mar. 25 sept. 2012 21:22 HAEC, Jean-Marc Liotier a écrit : >I like this proposal - from my very personal point of view it safeguards >all the conflicting interests and reaffirms essential inflexible >principles while cutting some slack to users who perform small local >imports : > >The "bot=y