Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-27 Thread Sylvain Maillard
Hi, by looking at the point with wrong street name, I can tell you that the last contibutor is (now) one of the most experienced contributors in France. I'm not sure where the error come from, but I would say it was one error among other good changes ;) I will send him an email about this error .

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-27 Thread Dmitry Kiselev
>...and leave that editor free to make the same mistake again and again. >They probably didn't realise they'd made a mistake, and a friendly note >from you might stop the problem occurring again. > >Also, while they're correcting the mistake they've made, they may also >spot places in the same ar

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-27 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/01/2015 10:24, Dmitry Kiselev wrote: > >> Have you asked cquest, the editor who created it? They're the best >> person to answer this question. > > I have a validator or at least addr:interpolation parser, so I have a > lots of examples like this > made by different editors. > > So, if it'

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-27 Thread Dmitry Kiselev
> Have you asked cquest, the editor who created it? They're the best > person to answer this question. I have a validator or at least addr:interpolation parser, so I have a lots of examples like this made by different editors. So, if it's not an local trait, it's much more easy for me to jus

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-26 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 27/01/2015 06:05, Dmitry Kiselev wrote: Hi everyone. There is a strange addr:interpolation way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/104241240 Is it a mistake or examples like this may be interpreted in some usable way? Have you asked cquest, the editor who created it? They're the best pers

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-26 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-01-27 07:05, Dmitry Kiselev wrote: Hi everyone. There is a strange addr:interpolation way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/104241240 [1] First point http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1202921548 [2] and last http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1202921219 [3] have different addr:street tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-26 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/26/2015 10:05 PM, Dmitry Kiselev wrote: Is it a mistake or examples like this may be interpreted in some usable way? I would say there's no sensible interpretation of an interpolation way with different nodes with different addr:street values. _

[OSM-talk] Addresses interpolation

2015-01-26 Thread Dmitry Kiselev
Hi everyone. There is a strange addr:interpolation way: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/104241240 First point http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1202921548 and last http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1202921219 have different addr:street tag values: Boulevard Saint Dizier and Avenue de la Répu

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-11-02 Thread marekskleciak
No one does imports without audit of random samples. We do it as well. The percentage of errors checked in tested area corresponds to the average content errors created by OpenStreetMap mappers. Of course, this must be checked each time, if we import data. We should never believe in the quality

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-11-02 Thread Russ Nelson
Paweł Marynowski writes: > When you make import, people are starting make notes about > imprecise data. I would note that, for decades, the best way to get correct information on the Internet has been to post incorrect information. I don't think that has changed, so yeah, let's import data even

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Paweł Marynowski
2014-10-24 14:14 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > I totally agree with you, But, I have the impression that people that do > the imports don't do them to create a community. they do it to have the > data in OSM. > Don't you think that more data = more people eager to add notes about what's missing? Eg. n

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Paweł Paprota
> > Pawel Paprota's reaction is along the same lines for me: "we could not > have accomplished this amount of data without an import." Again no > focus on the community or how the extra data is going to attract new > mappers. > > This is a different OSM than I have in mind. What strikes me in jus

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > We'd still need to survey in order to do the maintenance work and correct > errors. That's the main reason why imports are often seen as problematic: > they will not create a comunity, rather there are indications that the > growth of

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
> > ? We'd still need to survey in order to do the maintenance work and > correct errors. That's the main reason why imports are often seen as > problematic: they will not create a comunity, rather there are indications > that the growth of the comunity will slow down when everything looks > "compl

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-24 13:17 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > For me it is not unthinkable that once a company starts using OSM data for > a commercial offering, they might start demanding to add that data. > indeed, could happen from time to time ;-) > Of course they cannot demand anything from the community, b

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do

2014-10-24 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
In the city of Karviná, in your example, these two industrial buildings are much larger in reality than imported: http://osm.org/go/0LZc_9WgW?m= http://osm.org/go/0LZc_2625?m= But they can be corrected in JOSM easily. And it is not a big deal. An excellent stadium and a soccer pitch are not map

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Marc Gemis
For me it is not unthinkable that once a company starts using OSM data for a commercial offering, they might start demanding to add that data. Of course they cannot demand anything from the community, but they can import the data, or some people might feel a need to import data, or... It's hard to

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Paweł Paprota
> > OSM is not a melting pot for the world's open data and while there is a > place for imports, every import will have to be carefully thought about > and evaluated. Streamlining that process is not necessarily in the best > interest of OpenStreetMap. > What do you mean? Clearly it *is* in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:32:19PM +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: > So don't you expect "pressure" from companies using OSM for navigation and > geocoding to add more addresses ? Or do you expect them to use many > different datasources ? I dont get this? "pressure"? On what basis? You get the OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-23 Thread Nick Whitelegg
ially turn people off whose mapping interests lie elsewhere. Nick -Frederik Ramm wrote: - To: talk@openstreetmap.org From: Frederik Ramm Date: 23/10/2014 08:44AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map) Hi, On 10/23/

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-23 Thread Marc Gemis
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Frankly, I don't get all the brouhaha about addresses. Yes, geocoding is > commercially interesting, but is it interesting for us as a project? Are > So don't you expect "pressure" from companies using OSM for navigation and geocoding to ad

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/23/2014 08:57 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Wouldn't it be great that we would have import tools that can be used by > many groups ? As far as addresses are concerned, there's "OpenAddresses" (the US version, not the older Swiss project) that collects openly licensed address data and to my k

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-03-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/1 Steve Doerr : > On 01/03/2011 11:06, Jochen Topf wrote: > >> There is a key "addr:full" (see description >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr) for this kind of thing. > > True, I didn't notice that. However, it's not quite the right thing as this > user has some address elements

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-03-01 Thread Steve Doerr
On 01/03/2011 11:06, Jochen Topf wrote: There is a key "addr:full" (see description http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr) for this kind of thing. True, I didn't notice that. However, it's not quite the right thing as this user has some address elements separated out, it's just (as I u

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-03-01 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 10:48:19AM +, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 01/03/2011 00:31, John-Michael Wiley wrote: > > > >Unfortunately the data is coming to me from a tool I do not > >control. I simply will be importing the data and allowing someone > >to associate the data provided with areas and node

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-03-01 Thread Steve Doerr
On 01/03/2011 00:31, John-Michael Wiley wrote: Unfortunately the data is coming to me from a tool I do not control. I simply will be importing the data and allowing someone to associate the data provided with areas and nodes on the map. Most of the data will be for the US, but there is no gua

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-02-28 Thread john whelan
al code, phone). Leave the address for someone else. > > > > J.M. > > > > *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2011 3:58 PM > *To:* John-Michael Wiley > *Cc:* talk@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-02-28 Thread John-Michael Wiley
, postal code, phone). Leave the address for someone else. J.M. From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:58 PM To: John-Michael Wiley Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses Tricky because of the accuracy. My money would be to add a two

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-02-28 Thread john whelan
Tricky because of the accuracy. My money would be to add a two fields and put the lat and long coordinates in there. I'd also use a database rather than Excel such as SQL server there are better validation tools available. Then you really need manual verification you have the correct location. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-02-28 Thread Jo
If the house number is missing, no problem, then leave away addr:housenumber. Are these American style addresses, i.e. 12345, Example Street, or European style: Eygenstraat 123. Could you post a few examples of the most common cases and a few border line cases. Maybe it's possible to parse them w

[OSM-talk] Addresses

2011-02-28 Thread John-Michael Wiley
I am working on a project which will be importing items from excel and putting them on the map. The items (shops, buildings,...) have got address but they do not have the house numbers separated the street name, nor is it always the case that the house number is included. It is not a simple par

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses and POI

2009-06-07 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Sunday 07 June 2009 13:33:21 Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Lambert Carsten wrote: > > On Saturday 06 June 2009 15:35:41 Chris Hill wrote: > > > Yes it is an issue - the few that I have looked at have terms and > > > conditions that specifically restrict reuse without written permission > > > - you

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses and POI

2009-06-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Lambert Carsten wrote: > On Saturday 06 June 2009 15:35:41 Chris Hill wrote: > > Yes it is an issue - the few that I have looked at have terms and > > conditions that specifically restrict reuse without written permission > > - you should expect this on most organisations' websites. > The address

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses and POI

2009-06-07 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Saturday 06 June 2009 15:35:41 Chris Hill wrote: > Jack Stringer wrote: > > If I gathered the address info from their website then that should not > > be an issue, should it? > > Yes it is an issue - the few that I have looked at have terms and > conditions that specifically restrict reuse with

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses and POI

2009-06-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Jack Stringer wrote: >> People, companies, organisations can already add anything to the database >> right now.  They could render a map (or pay someone to do it) with their >> locations on. > > Without having to sign-up with a OSM account and then workout the > vari

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses and POI

2009-06-06 Thread Jack Stringer
OK, so copyright on the electoral roll is an issue. I guess also because of the Data Protection Act I just can't get a list from a business of the addresses (minus names) of their customers. > People, companies, organisations can already add anything to the database > right now.  They could rende

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses and POI

2009-06-06 Thread Chris Hill
Jack Stringer wrote: > If I was to get a copy of the Electoral Roll, could I use that to get > a list of House Names, Street Names, and Postcodes and then use that > to create a tick list of houses. If we have a list of stuff that we > know should exist then we could use it to make sure the map h

[OSM-talk] Addresses and POI

2009-06-06 Thread Jack Stringer
If I was to get a copy of the Electoral Roll, could I use that to get a list of House Names, Street Names, and Postcodes and then use that to create a tick list of houses. If we have a list of stuff that we know should exist then we could use it to make sure the map has all the data for the area. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses / "Yellow pages" style informations

2008-10-02 Thread Frank Sautter
Chris Browet schrieb: > Is there an agreed tagging scheme for "Yellow page" style POI informations? > For example, for an hotel, I'd like to include a descriptive address, you could use the karlsruhe schema for adding the address data http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/House

[OSM-talk] Addresses / "Yellow pages" style informations

2008-10-02 Thread Chris Browet
Dear, Is there an agreed tagging scheme for "Yellow page" style POI informations? For example, for an hotel, I'd like to include a descriptive address, phone number, web site, ... - Chris - ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.open