On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:56 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.comwrote:
So, what happens in your region if the road planners decide to alter the
position of part of a road, such as making a curve more gentle? Are the
municipal borders then shifted so that they still match the roadway, or
2010/7/7 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:56 AM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com
So, what happens in your region if the road planners decide to alter the
position of part of a road,
Most probably the boundary will not move. But we also have many cases where
boundaries
(although with JOSM you can easily unglue nodes or you can also delete the
way and create a new one when these changes are required).
It depends on your definition of easy.In the cases I have run into, it
is necessary to modify a short section of road, therefore I can't just
select all
Hi,
M?rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
so I it seems your country is doing things just as any other country
and you should think about not glueing borders to features.
I think glueing borders to features is perfectly all right; I even
advise people to use roads or river centrelines in boundary
It really depends on how the boundaries are legally defined. In my country,
boundaries between barangays (the smallest political unit) in a city or
municipality often are defined in terms of roads especially in urban cities
and municipalities. The boundary is not even the centerline but the road
2010/7/7 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
sense. I think in many cases the boundary definition does not exist
independently of the feature.
yes, of course if this is the case (and boundary mapping depends on
the feature and not on an import), it is perfectly right to do it,
otherwise it's
2010/7/5 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
So you ask people to not join the nodes just because you make the assumption
that this person is contributing in US and that a majority of US boundaries
have errors...
I could also say that if the boundary is really following the road, then
there is no harm
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:07 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:
Also it makes border far more complicated (and thus even false) when
glued to features: roads need to have more nodes than just for the
position (maxspeed, turnrestrictions, crossing streets, ...) while
borders
On 7/6/2010 11:18 AM, Pieren wrote:
Again, this depends on the region you are contributing. In my region,
most of the municipality borders are in fact glued to the middle of
features like roads, tracks or rivers. Those features can be added in
OSM from different sources (imagery, GPS, land
On 7 July 2010 05:51, Nakor nakor@gmail.com wrote:
If the river/road/... is the actual boundary, shouldn't the same way be used
for both instead of having duplicate ways? I've seen this done in some
places (Ohio IIRC)
The boundary might be similar to other features, but unless you like
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Nakor nakor@gmail.com wrote:
If the river/road/... is the actual boundary, shouldn't the same way be
used for both instead of having duplicate ways? I've seen this done in some
places (Ohio IIRC)
We had a lot of discussions about that. Finally, the answer
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Alan Mintz
alan_mintz+...@earthlink.netalan_mintz%2b...@earthlink.net
wrote:
It's exactly because they are added from different sources that it is
incorrect to merge them. If you adjust a border from a more accurate
source, you should adjust that border, not
Pieren wrote:
You missunderstood : the definition of the border IS the middle of the road
It may be the middle of the road *as it existed when the border was
defined*. It's usually not the middle of the road as it exists now,
unless there have been no changes, however slight, to the road
At 2010-07-06 13:21, Pieren wrote:
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:07 PM,
Alan Mintz
alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net
wrote:
It's exactly because they are added
from different sources that it is incorrect to merge them. If you adjust
a border from a more accurate source, you should adjust that
border, not
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote:
It may be the middle of the road *as it existed when the border was
defined*. It's usually not the middle of the road as it exists now,
unless there have been no changes, however slight, to the road
alignment. Pages 28
At 2010-07-06 13:43, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
Pieren wrote:
You missunderstood : the definition of the border IS the middle of the road
It may be the middle of the road *as it existed when the border was
defined*. It's usually not the middle of the road as it exists now,
unless there have been no
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Pieren wrote:
You missunderstood : the definition of the border IS the middle of the
road
or river. If we find a legal source for the admin boundary, it is most of
the time less accurate then a GPS trace following the feature irl.
there is no misunderstanding
the
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
The southern bank of the Murray River is the border between 2 states.
Where the river has been flooded by building a dam the southern bank has
moved. (Yarrawonga-Mulwala region)
Legal answer for this boundary - the boundary did not
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I am confused, what is the preferred approach to map boundaries of areas,
that in reality are bounded by a street or another way. Whether to draw the
boundary over this way (possibly using the same nodes), or to draw them in
parallel but close to this way? On the map, I see example of the first
Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com writes:
I am confused, what is the preferred approach to map boundaries of areas,
that in reality are bounded by a street or another way. Whether to draw the
boundary over this way (possibly using the same nodes), or to draw them in
parallel but close to
Ed Avis wrote:
Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com writes:
Depends what the way is. If it's a street, the area most likely stops
at the right-of-way line, and does not extend to the middle of the
street, so it would be incorrect to extend the area into the street.
On the other hand, if it's
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
It's extremely common in the US that imported TIGER data will have a
road in the old position, which happens to match a boundary (or
parallel it, with TIGER having it erroneously on the road), or that
TIGER will make
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