Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-07-09 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Cartinus, thanks for pointing out the link. It'd be interesting to see OpenRailwayMap as a Featured Layer. I'll suggest that on ORM's mailing list. Cheers, Arlindo On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 04-07-14 20:45, Arlindo Pereira wrote: Perhaps the

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-07-04 Thread SomeoneElse
On 23/06/2014 22:12, Rob Nickerson wrote: Andy, I think there is a lot of positives in the new rendering as well. I for one am delighted to see some life back in the standard map style, this way new tags can be (and have been) added to the rendering rules. So it's a mix - some things are

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-07-04 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Perhaps the question should be: what could we do to have different map styles (OpenRailwayMap and OpenPisteMap comes to my mind, but I'm pretty sure you can think in others) appearing as layers on openstreetmap.org website? We could come up with a process to do so, even if the rendering itself

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-07-04 Thread Cartinus
On 04-07-14 20:45, Arlindo Pereira wrote: Perhaps the question should be: what could we do to have different map styles (OpenRailwayMap and OpenPisteMap comes to my mind, but I'm pretty sure you can think in others) appearing as layers on openstreetmap.org website? We could come up with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-07-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi, I agree that the render-all-approach is useful in some cases, but - on which ones? In low zoom levels (z0-15) it tends to get overwhelmingly cluttered by features while on the other hand lots of them have to be dropped at random because of geometric restrictions - there's limited space on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Johnson
I second this. Even some form of SVG would be an improvement over nothing or having to load something through JOSM for some glancing by area... On Jul 3, 2014 6:51 AM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Hi, I agree that the render-all-approach is useful in some cases, but - on

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-28 Thread Russ Nelson
Elena ``of Valhalla'' writes: The right solution to this kind of complaint is to help them set up their own thematic map. No. The right solution is to stop having a map. We need to bring opencyclemap, openrailwaymap, openpistemap, and opencanalmap back into the fold, and offer all of them as

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-26 Thread malenki
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:00:32 +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: Abandoned railways are also potential footpaths, cycleways, again not showing them makes locating potential useful rights of way claims more difficult. I'd assume that mappers who have surveyed the abandoned railways would add

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 13:52 +0200, malenki wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:00:32 +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: Abandoned railways are also potential footpaths, cycleways, again not showing them makes locating potential useful rights of way claims more difficult. I'd assume that mappers

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2014-06-23 20:14, Russ Nelson wrote: The only complaints I see about the standard map are the ones coming from railfans who want to see the abandoned railroads put back. I'm still holding my breath for landuse labels at z14... [1] [1]

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Ed Loach
Michael wrote: This reminds me to the good old times in OSM. Can anybody remember that the sand bunkers on some golf courses had beeen tagged as natural = beach to get them rendered? :-( Not everything was good in good old times... You're trolling, yes? golf=bunker still isn't rendered,

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-24 9:53 GMT+02:00 Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com: You're trolling, yes? golf=bunker still isn't rendered, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/133025922 (Perhaps of interest is this related blog post by rweait from August 2009 http://weait.com/content/golf-course-style-openstreetmap )

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 24.06.2014 10:57, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: this obviously belongs to [tagging], [...] Please check the detailed description on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgolf_course how to tag e.g. bunkers (also by surface!) And if it is not rendered please add a feature request

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2014-06-23 at 23:14:36 -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: The only complaints I see about the standard map are the ones coming from railfans who want to see the abandoned railroads put back. Can we not admit to error? Rendering a feature because its fans complain loud enough doesn't sound like a

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-24 11:37 GMT+02:00 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de: And if it is not rendered please add a feature request (or better submit a patch). FWIW, I am not a golf player, but as this is a returning issue decided to create a ticket nonetheless to avoid tagging for the renderer:

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-24 12:46 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Would adding an hstore-column be an option for the main rendering db? This would give us all the flexibility we are currently missing because of missing keys, but will have some performance penalty. maybe it could be an

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 23:14 -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: The only complaints I see about the standard map are the ones coming from railfans who want to see the abandoned railroads put back. Can we not admit to error? Y'all should try it -- it puts hair on your chest and makes your boobs bigger

[OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread SomeoneElse
There have been lots of changes to the standard style sheet recently (e.g. [1]). The resulting map looks much nicer (farmland and other landuse much less glaring, names that really make no sense to be shown on a general map aren't). There have however been some unintended consequences of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread Andrew Hain
SomeoneElse lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk writes: There have however been some unintended consequences of the changes. A number of abandoned railways near me were edited from abandoned to disused; I'm guessing that it might be because of the recent changes. Changeset comments along the

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread Yves
Or directed them toward Openrailwaymap ? I don't think a show-them-all map makes sense these days. Everybody should be able to find a map that fits his / her needs. Yves On 23 juin 2014 18:33:01 UTC+02:00, Andrew Hain andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: SomeoneElse lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread SomeoneElse
Andrew Hain wrote: Have you talked to them or reverted their edits? Re the disused railway, I did talk to the person who changed it - and attached a photo (which showed it to be very much abandoned). Re the most recent time that I saw I know we shouldn't tag for the renderer but in

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread SomeoneElse
Yves wrote: Or directed them toward Openrailwaymap ? I'd have suggested that (in fact it's the first place I looked), had any of the renderings there been at all useful. There do seem to have been some odd choices in terms of what gets rendered and what doesn't. Here's an area not far

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread Michael Kugelmann
on 23.06.2014 13:56, SomeoneElse wrote: A number of abandoned railways near me were edited from abandoned to disused; I'm guessing that it might be because of the recent changes. Changeset comments along the lines of changed to X so that it renders and I know we're not supposed to tag for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread yvecai
However this off-topic illustrates one point: topic map are good to show topical features: you can fill bugs that the maintainer will have a pleasure to fix :) Andy, you are well placed to know that rendering a particular topic well requires a good understanding of the tagging scheme, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread Russ Nelson
The only complaints I see about the standard map are the ones coming from railfans who want to see the abandoned railroads put back. Can we not admit to error? Y'all should try it -- it puts hair on your chest and makes your boobs bigger (those would be gender-specific enhancements. I'll let you

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-23 Thread Russ Nelson
On the other hand (reaching into my economist's bag of hands), I'm not friends with too many hydrantfans, churchfans, mountaintopfans, islandfans, or wetlandfans. So maybe I have a biased view. How many complaints are we getting from them, now that their favorite feature is no longer visible? I