Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread Mike N
I don't see that the Wiki is self-contradictory in this case; it quite clearly states the convention for US and US Interstate highway refs. Is there a good argument to omitting the state abbreviation from the ref? Will the end result of changing to just a number be usable by the

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread John Smith
On 1 March 2010 03:17, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Is there a good argument to omitting the state abbreviation from the ref? Will the end result of changing to just a number be usable by the Highway Shields project? The common reference County road 49 comes to You can use admin

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread Mike N
That doesn't help in this case: for example a US highway crosses multiple states, but is always assigned the same shield. And there is nothing in standard tagging (that I remember) to distinguish a county from state road - I follow the general recommendation that US=primary,

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread John Smith
On 1 March 2010 04:03, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: That doesn't help in this case: for example a US highway crosses multiple states, but is always assigned the same shield.And there is nothing in This is just a pre-processing problem before going into pgsql for mapnik, or whatever

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread John F. Eldredge
To: Mike Nnice...@att.net Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation On 1 March 2010 03:17, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: Is there a good argument to omitting the state abbreviation from the ref? Will the end result of changing to just

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread John Smith
On 1 March 2010 05:01, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: However, a given administrative area may well contain country-level, state-level, and county roads. If a given road is tagged with only a number, what indicates which one of these is meant? Also, it is not unusual for a

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 28 Feb 2010, at 10:18 , John Smith wrote: On 1 March 2010 04:03, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: That doesn't help in this case: for example a US highway crosses multiple states, but is always assigned the same shield.And there is nothing in This is just a pre-processing problem

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread John Smith
On 1 March 2010 05:41, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: network=CO (county) network=S (state) why duplicate redundant info, requires double care when a roud is up/downgraded. isn't it better this way The brackets were meant for explanation purposes only.

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:43 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 1 March 2010 05:41, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: network=CO (county) network=S (state) The brackets were meant for explanation purposes only. But in OSM, we try to avoid abbreviations when

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread John Smith
On 1 March 2010 06:03, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: But in OSM, we try to avoid abbreviations when possible. Then you don't have to explaine later again and again what means CO or add a note or a reference to a wiki page. network=county is not so long and clear for everyone. Simply because

[Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-28 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
moving thread to talk-us where it belongs Begin forwarded message: From: Mike N nice...@att.net Date: 28 February 2010 9:17:01 PST To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation I don't see that the Wiki is self-contradictory in this case

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Anyone? On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone? On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? I generally allow other mappers a week to

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? I generally allow other mappers a week to respond to site-mail before I send another note. They might be

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? I generally allow other

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Richard Weait wrote: What is in this (big) changeset that ikrevert reverted? I fixed up the numbered routes in Columbia. You'll see that currently some of the primary highways just dead-end, because TIGER often doesn't have the correct routings for numbered routes. Restore the changeset and you

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Liz
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Richard Weait wrote: What is in this (big) changeset that ikrevert reverted? I fixed up the numbered routes in Columbia. You'll see that currently some of the primary highways just dead-end, because TIGER often doesn't have the correct routings

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:33 , Nathan Edgars II wrote: Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? I generally allow other mappers a week to respond

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:33 , Nathan Edgars II wrote: And a week from now half the ways in the changeset will probably have been edited, making a restoration very complicated. Is it the intent here that those with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Konrad Skeri
2010/2/28 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:33 , Nathan Edgars II wrote: Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this?

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 27 Feb 2010, at 15:37 , Konrad Skeri wrote: I.e. guilty until proven otherwise? there is no court no judge no laws. only volunteers willing to help. User A edits the map. User B reverts user A's edits without explaining why. User A then has to justify before the whole community why

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 28 February 2010 00:37, Konrad Skeri kon...@skeri.com wrote: 2010/2/28 Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com: On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:33 , Nathan Edgars II wrote: Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
Nathan Edgars II wrote: Lar Kiesel wrote: I was the culprit who did the user lkrevert revert to user NE2 change set of Columbia, SC, US. Thank you for finally coming forward and explaining. The reasons for the revert was because NE2 had changed many segments of SC state

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Lar Kiesel wrote: I started to correct the NE2 changes by hand, there were too many and why should I? So. I decided to do the revert. Independent of what's wrong or right in this case: You are not the first one to say that the changeset is too large to easily see what has happened.

[OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Thread Nathan Edgars II
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert has reverted one of my changesets. I contacted this user, but doubt I'll get a response, since this is obviously not the primary account. I don't have the tools to undo this revert, and that's probably not a good idea anyway without some sort of

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Nathan, Nathan Edgars II wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert has reverted one of my changesets. I contacted this user, but doubt I'll get a response, since this is obviously not the primary account. Your messsage will be forwarded to him by email. If you do manage to contact

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Thread John Smith
On 26 February 2010 19:03, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: he used the user page to say what his primary account is and what he's using the lkrevert user for. ikrevert = i kan revert maybe? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Oops - forgot to choose 'reply to all'. Sorry Fred for the duplicate. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Nathan, Nathan Edgars II wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert has reverted one of my changesets. I contacted this user, but doubt I'll

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Thread Mike N.
to get an agreement and update the Wiki before changing the ref format. -- From: Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 3:56 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Frederik Ramm wrote: However, Nathan, I see that for example in this way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/12515816/history you had removed *all* the tags from the way. I haven't investigated further but maybe the reverter had to assume that there was some editing error? I deleted that

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I deleted that way (because I had extended the motorway_link to the west over it). Note that it has no nodes listed. Apologies, I overlooked that. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Thread Nathan Edgars II
It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert has reverted one of my changesets. I contacted this user, but doubt I'll get a response,