Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-29 Thread Igor Brejc
Hi, I suppose I'm the culprit for the "todo=continue" and "todo=junction" tags, since I've used them internally for some time and then added them to GroundTruth hiking rules once I developed GroundTruth. These tags are not primarily rendering-oriented, they are just pointers (for me and anyone

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Dave F. wrote: > I'm repeatedly told "don't tag for the renderers" OK, let me even it out a bit and give you some guidance: Tagging for the renderer is OK Tagging for the renderer is OK Tagging for the renderer is OK Tagging for the renderer is OK Don't delibera

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Thread Dave F.
John Smith wrote: > 2009/9/28 Dave F. : > > >> I'm not saying we should bend over backwards in our tagging to ensure it >> will immediately render in all the different rendering flavours, but to >> tag without /any/ consideration for multitude of uses OSM could be used >> for is, I think, lazy,

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Thread John Smith
2009/9/28 Dave F. : > I'm not saying we should bend over backwards in our tagging to ensure it > will immediately render in all the different rendering flavours, but to > tag without /any/ consideration for multitude of uses OSM could be used > for is, I think, lazy, selfish & bordering on the arr

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Thread Dave F.
John Smith wrote: > 2009/9/28 Dave F. : > > >> The database on its own is useless. It needs to be represented in some >> manner such as a visual map. To tag randomly ie 'tag whatever you want & >> let the renderers sort it out' seems illogical & counter productive. >> > > It's more of a cas

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Thread John Smith
2009/9/28 Dave F. : > The database on its own is useless. It needs to be represented in some > manner such as a visual map. To tag randomly ie 'tag whatever you want & > let the renderers sort it out' seems illogical & counter productive. It's more of a case of converting the real world into a da

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-28 Thread Dave F.
ed...@billiau.net wrote: >> You see, this is where I get /really /confused >> >> I see no reference to 'todo' or 'continue' in the general OSM wiki. >> In the Groundtruth wiki page they're highlighted red, saying there there >> no reference page. >> >> I'm repeatedly told "don't tag for the rendere

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/9/26 David Paleino : > k...@vielevisels wrote: > >> Hi, >> many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning, >> with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is >> intended for this. I think it would be helpful have one way to tag this >> and to render b

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Dave F. wrote: > You see, this is where I get /really /confused > > I see no reference to 'todo' or 'continue' in the general OSM wiki. > In the Groundtruth wiki page they're highlighted red, saying there there > no reference page. > If you think there is a need,

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread Dave F.
You see, this is where I get /really /confused I see no reference to 'todo' or 'continue' in the general OSM wiki. In the Groundtruth wiki page they're highlighted red, saying there there no reference page. I'm repeatedly told "don't tag for the renderers" Yet it appears in this case the render

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:15 AM, David Earl wrote: > On 26/09/2009 19:09, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > >>But as I said, I'd much rather have a specific, rendered, "more to do >>here" tag for stubs that is removed when the way is extended. >> not a good idea for the normal map. have you ev

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Saturday 26 September 2009 20:09:34 Apollinaris Schoell wrote: There are GroundTruth styles (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GroundTruth_Hiking_Map#IconTodoJunction) with support for tags todo=continue and todo=junction In this sample (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:GroundTruth_

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/09/2009 19:09, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > But as I said, I'd much rather have a specific, rendered, "more to do > here" tag for stubs that is removed when the way is extended. > not a good idea for the normal map. have you ever seen any other > commercial map with "hey look this ma

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
> > But as I said, I'd much rather have a specific, rendered, "more to do > here" tag for stubs that is removed when the way is extended. > not a good idea for the normal map. have you ever seen any other commercial map with "hey look this map is incomplete BS" info? sure it makes sense to get th

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/09/2009 18:20, Dave F. wrote: > David Earl wrote: >> On 26/09/2009 15:00, k...@vielevisels wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the >>> beginning, with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag >>> noexit=no is intended for this. >>> I thin

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread Dave F.
David Earl wrote: > On 26/09/2009 15:00, k...@vielevisels wrote: > >> Hi, >> many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning, >> with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is >> intended for this. >> I think it would be helpful have one way to tag th

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/09/2009 15:00, k...@vielevisels wrote: > Hi, > many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning, > with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is > intended for this. > I think it would be helpful have one way to tag this and to render both > (dead

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread Dave F.
k...@vielevisels wrote: > Hi, > many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the > beginning, with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag > noexit=no is intended for this. > I think it would be helpful have one way to tag this and to render > both (dead-ends and incomplete

[OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread k...@vielevisels
Hi, many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning, with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is intended for this. I think it would be helpful have one way to tag this and to render both (dead-ends and incomplete ways), to show where work has to be d

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread malenki
k...@vielevisels wrote: >Hi, >many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the >beginning, with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag >noexit=no is intended for this. I think it would be helpful have one >way to tag this and to render both (dead-ends and incomplete ways), to

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from incomplete ways

2009-09-26 Thread David Paleino
k...@vielevisels wrote: > Hi, > many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning, > with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is > intended for this. I think it would be helpful have one way to tag this > and to render both (dead-ends and incomplete ways