On 02.04.12. 16:58, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am 2. April 2012 16:44 schrieb Mikemike.cuttl...@gmail.com:
I did not pretend they did, but I like to point out that them
being part
of Serbia is also disputed. It is clear that there is no clear
status for
them at the moment, and I support
I cannot change what has happened in kosovo, and we have to make the
best of it. I want to have good relations with all people of the world
and on osm. I dont want to fight with you over this, my purpose is to
make a usable map and to keep the team motivated to do so. Please
restrain
I cannot change what has happened in kosovo, and we have to make the
best of it. I want to have good relations with all people of the world
and on osm. I dont want to fight with you over this, my purpose is to
make a usable map and to keep the team motivated to do so. Please
restrain
Hello Mr.Cuttlers
I dont know who you are or where you come from.
I can only tell you that I feel so sorry for the informations you have.
I dont know who told you these things but they cant go wors.
And I can tell you that you are not good in history too, please dont
prejudice what happened all
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Mike mike.cuttl...@gmail.com wrote:
And again, yu are luyin
OK, I give up. I hope that the mailing list here has gotten a chance to see
what we are dealing with in relations with some people over these issues. I
am not going to deal with you mr cuttlers any
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Komuna e Malishevs, Serbia ?
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Mike mike.cuttl...@gmail.com wrote:
And again, yu are luyin
OK, I give up. I hope that the mailing list here has gotten a chance
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Mike Cuttlers mike.cuttl...@gmail.com
wrote:
imagine someone who goes to prishtina with a printed osm map
with the serbian names and trys to find something, they ask for
help and show the map to someone, the people on the ground wont
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:33 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 2. April 2012 00:31 schrieb Mike mike.cuttl...@gmail.com
mailto:mike.cuttl...@gmail.com:
OSM should not act upon advocacy to declare as fact every wish for
Am 2. April 2012 15:34 schrieb Mike Cuttlers mike.cuttl...@gmail.com:
that territory is quite a hot matter. It is not recognized as an country
and
by international agreements it is still part of Serbia.
There are 89 countries who recognized Kosovo (e.g. the USA, UK,
Germany, France,
Am 2. April 2012 16:44 schrieb Mike mike.cuttl...@gmail.com:
I did not pretend they did, but I like to point out that them being part
of Serbia is also disputed. It is clear that there is no clear status for
them at the moment, and I support that this uncertainty is also somehow
reflected
OK, lets end this now please.
I cannot change what has happened in kosovo, and we have to make the best
of it. I want to have good relations with all people of the world and on
osm. I dont want to fight with you over this, my purpose is to make a
usable map and to keep the team motivated to do
01.04.2012, 12:16, "Mike Dupont" jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com:I think we agreed here on the "on the ground rule", kosovo is on the ground the republic of kosovo and not serbia. [...]belgrad is not in fact control of kosovo, kosovo is its own country. Arrrgh. We should have rules on mapping
We have rules for osm, they are clear. it is the on the ground rule.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes#On_the_Ground_Rule
On the Ground Rule
If the dispute can not be resolved through discussion, then the simple
default rule is that whatever name, designation, etc are used by the
2012. gada 1. aprīlis 13:01 Павел Фомин pavel...@yandex.ru rakstīja:
01.04.2012, 12:16, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com:
I think we agreed here on the on the ground rule, kosovo is on the ground
the republic of kosovo and not serbia.
[...]
belgrad is not in fact control of kosovo,
Hello,
my last words on this for now :
for osm to be useful it needs two things :
1. local dedicated mappers who have local knowlege who feel comfortable and
motivated to continue mapping.
2. accurate maps that reflect the names of places there, signs you can see.
if you continue to rename
The example of Kosovo in the OSM Wiki that you are quoting here has been
added your friend Liz, who is in favour of your view. But there exist other
views too. As far as on the ground does matter here, the local signs call
the border Kosovo Provincial Boundary not country border.
The government in
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:29 PM, ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote:
The example of Kosovo in the OSM Wiki that you are quoting here has been
added your friend Liz, who is in favour of your view.
I am sorry, it was added by mikel before I even started to work on the
project.
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Павел Фомин pavel...@yandex.ru wrote:
Arrrgh. We should have rules on mapping disputed areas and partially
recognised countries. Is OSM showing the internationally accepted situation
or is it taking into account every single front line?
Seems to be
OSM should not act upon advocacy to declare as fact every wish for
independence, especially if ground situation is that authority of the
territory is taken by force and in recent past so that matter is not
internationally settled. That would mean that any terrorist organization
that gain military
Am 2. April 2012 00:31 schrieb Mike mike.cuttl...@gmail.com:
OSM should not act upon advocacy to declare as fact every wish for
independence, especially if ground situation is that authority of the
territory is taken by force and in recent past so that matter is not
internationally settled.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Mike mike.cuttl...@gmail.com wrote:
Intentions of the contributors in OSM map of Kosovo i Metohija is best
displayed by ignoring the fact that on the ground both Serbian and Albanian
languages are used
I have done my best to add in the serbian names of all the
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Mike mike.cuttl...@gmail.com wrote:
OSM should follow international law.
There are a great deal of disputes here on this issue I agree, I dont want
to even go into them in detail.
my question is, do you care about the progress we have made, the community
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