On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Kate Chapman wrote:
> I agree with you when a large amount of new people start the quality
> can go down. My theory is there needs to be a certain ratio of senior
> mappers to new people to keep the quality high. However I think as
> people learn how to fix their
> From: Andrew Errington [mailto:a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk]
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Moderating / Quality checking OSM contributions
>
> I thought this was foolish at the time, and it still is.
>
> highway=* should match the classification given by the government or
> roading authority, and sh
On 12/7/2011 7:08 PM, Andrew Errington wrote:
I don't know for sure, but I expect that the initial list of road
classifications were derived from UK Ordnance Survey classifications:
Motorway - motorway
A road - primary
B road - secondary
'yellow' road - tertiary
'white' road - unclassified
dual-
On 12/7/2011 7:31 PM, Kate Chapman wrote:
But if the road classification matches to the actual
utility of the road why not use it.
It doesn't in the U.S.
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On 12/7/2011 7:42 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 12/7/2011 6:47 PM, Kate Chapman wrote:
There are a lot of road classifications already in the wiki for
example here is the one for the US:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_Road_Classification
This has a number of problems:
http:
On 12/7/2011 6:47 PM, Kate Chapman wrote:
There are a lot of road classifications already in the wiki for
example here is the one for the US:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_Road_Classification
This has a number of problems:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NE2/classif
On Thu, December 8, 2011 09:27, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> With the German road numbering scheme, the administrative
> classification is also already defined by the ref=* tag. So choosing the
> highway value based on the administrative classification would duplicate
> that information.
Hmm. Unfortuna
On Thu, December 8, 2011 09:20, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Andrew Errington wrote:
>
>> I don't know for sure, but I expect that the initial list of road
>> classifications were derived from UK Ordnance Survey classifications:
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>> Motorway - motorway
>> B road - secondary
>> 'yellow'
So in my experience in Indonesia we have translated the presets
literally. As you would with a translation I suppose=).
The question the repeatedly comes up in the training though is "is
this the equivalent of X road-type in Indonesia." It seems like
people have an okay idea of how the types map
Kate Chapman wrote:
> I'm not sure why that makes sense. Saying to people "Okay we know you
> call these types of roads national government roads, well in OSM we
> call them primary. So let's create a completely new vocabulary in
> your country that nobody will remember."
There isn't only one po
Andrew Errington wrote:
> I don't know for sure, but I expect that the initial list of road
> classifications were derived from UK Ordnance Survey
> classifications:
Yes.
> Motorway - motorway
> B road - secondary
> 'yellow' road - tertiary
> 'white' road - unclassified
Pretty much, yes. tertia
On Wed, December 7, 2011 22:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2011/12/7 Kate Chapman :
>
>> I wonder if custom presets could help with the road classification.
>> We've had the same problem in parts of Indonesia, but that is because
>> the road classifications are simply translated. Â Translating th
Martin,
I'm not sure why that makes sense. Saying to people "Okay we know you
call these types of roads national government roads, well in OSM we
call them primary. So let's create a completely new vocabulary in
your country that nobody will remember."
There are a lot of road classifications al
On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:58:30 +0100
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2011/12/7 mick :
> >> Martijn van Exel wrote:
> >> That's an interesting thought, but part of the excitement of
> >> contributing to OSM is the instant gratification of seeing your own
> >> improvements on the map and being able to sh
2011/12/7 Kate Chapman :
> I wonder if custom presets could help with the road classification.
> We've had the same problem in parts of Indonesia, but that is because
> the road classifications are simply translated. Translating the word
> primary doesn't mean much for the type of road it is. Cha
2011/12/7 mick :
>> Martijn van Exel wrote:
>> That's an interesting thought, but part of the excitement of
>> contributing to OSM is the instant gratification of seeing your own
>> improvements on the map and being able to share your knowledge with
>> the world right away. Having new contributors
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:11:03 -0700
Martijn van Exel wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:23 PM, mick wrote:
> [..]
> >> If OSM is taught in the classroom and this results in lots of errors,
> >> then either OSM was not the right subject to teach, or was not taught
> >> well ;)
> >
> > Letting utter
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 17:45:37 +0100
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:37:32 +
> "Jaakko Helleranta.com" wrote:
> > That is: as the contributors' tech-savvyness decreases we see a clear
> > hike in various sorts of data problems.
>
> ...
>
> > Not having _something_ like t
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:37:32 +
> "Jaakko Helleranta.com" wrote:
>> That is: as the contributors' tech-savvyness decreases we see a clear
>> hike in various sorts of data problems.
>
> ...
>
>> Not having _something_ like this is a
Hi,
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:37:32 +
"Jaakko Helleranta.com" wrote:
> That is: as the contributors' tech-savvyness decreases we see a clear
> hike in various sorts of data problems.
...
> Not having _something_ like this is a major problem.
There is an obvious alternative solution - if OpenSt
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com
wrote:
> I know, and that's why I shouldn't have even put it in the Subject. So, I'm
> talking about flagging changesets (that are already committed into the live
> db) for review.
We've talked about changeset comments (and possibly flags, a
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com
wrote:
> This is precisely what I've seen in Haiti and discussed with a number of the
> local contributors, too.
>
> That is: as the contributors' tech-savvyness decreases we see a clear hike in
> various sorts of data problems.
This is an i
This is precisely what I've seen in Haiti and discussed with a number of the
local contributors, too.
That is: as the contributors' tech-savvyness decreases we see a clear hike in
various sorts of data problems.
Bundle that with not-so-large active user base (of people who do quality
fixing) an
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