This is precisely what I've seen in Haiti and discussed with a number of the
local contributors, too.
That is: as the contributors' tech-savvyness decreases we see a clear hike in
various sorts of data problems.
Bundle that with not-so-large active user base (of people who do quality
fixing) and you have a problematic situation at hand.
There were some really good replies earlier (imho) to the questions of
moderation/quality_checking (I think this was a little while after SoTM --
check talk@osm archive if u missed them and are interested).
What I'd love to see and what the contributors here would also want to have is
a system where contributors can flag their edits with something that would que
the changesets in question to an (open) review stack.
This kind of review que wouldn't actually moderate anything but would simply
flag the changesets for review ("quality ensurance", if u may).
This should most certainly b opt-in in general but imho it could and should b
used used as default for eg situations where osm is taught in the classroom.
I'd also very much like to see some (open) mechanism where users that cause
problems time and again could be flagged like this.
Not having _something_ like this is a major problem.
Example: I just spent nearly half day yesterday fixing one beginner's mess in
PaP and am seeing that wasting time on things like this eats badly from the
time that people who end up fixing them could have for creating neat things for
OSM be it fixing/creating tools or partnerships, coordinating, or actual
mapping.
Since I'm not a developer I can't unfortunately create anything that would
solve the problem. But could someone tell me how much it would/could cost to
create something that would?
I want to emphasize that this is something that not only the more advanced
people would like to have (in the hopes that it would give them more time for
doing something more useful, essentially, to b more productive for the project)
but it's also what many regular mappers have specifically asked for (in Haiti)
as they don't want to break things.
Cheers,
-Jaakko
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:52:54
To: Steve Bennett<stevag...@gmail.com>
Cc: openstreetmap<talk@openstreetmap.org>; Aun Johnsen<li...@gimnechiske.org>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model
hi all
my idea about this program, because we teach contributor, and they are
start from 15 years old.
every of them "must" contribute to the map server, and if the map data
is not ok, or they remove the data.. i believe that will be nightmare,
if hundreds student do mistake.
but .. i think also wasting time, if we must redo what they did
www.facebook.com/meruvian > to know what will we do?
F
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Steve Bennett <stevag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:11 PM, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2) Post-process the diff files to change the id of any new elements to a
>> negative value. This is simply a matter of multiplying the id by -1 if the
>> element's version attribute is 1.
>
> Naive question here: so the OSM copy ends up with negative numbers?
> Isn't that bad? Also, in any case, you end up with different IDs in
> the two databases, no? Or do you then also update the ID in the source
> database to be negative as well, and then reset the id counter?
>
> Steve
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