Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !

2020-08-21 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
FYI; https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism   Purposeful removal or degradation of data that are known to be correct,   Deliberate adding incorrect data;   People who revert other people's work should expect to be able to demonstrate that the reversion was well reasoned and proportionate t

Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !

2020-06-08 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
That is a good question, I answered him on what he sent me, that he was complaining about in the form of a threat,   as andy said,   I was trying fix the ghost issue on a 10 year old National Hydrography Dataset, download that was one 81 mile   multipolygon that was not even his edit, I answere

Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !

2020-06-07 Thread Alessandro Sarretta
If this is the changeset (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86230442), where is the discussion? Ale On 07/06/20 17:33, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: 86230442 Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:47 AM -05:00 from Dave F via talk >: Provide a link to the changeset. DaveF

Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !

2020-06-07 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
>86230442 >>Sunday, June 7, 2020 8:47 AM -05:00 from Dave F via talk < >>talk@openstreetmap.org >: >>  >>Provide a link to the changeset. >> >>DaveF >>  >>On 07/06/2020 14:07, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: >>>  IF someone, not local, relying on satellite views, goes after my good >>>faith edit

Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !

2020-06-07 Thread Dave F via talk
Provide a link to the changeset. DaveF On 07/06/2020 14:07, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:   IF someone, not local, relying on satellite views, goes after my good faith edit, based on my on the ground surveillance thinks my edit was wrong trying to fix broken polygon’s,  that are making ghost

Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !

2020-06-07 Thread Marc M.
Hello, Le 07.06.20 à 15:07, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk a écrit : > how do you put it all back ? giving a link to get a neutral opinion is often a good idea :) the first time, just put a public message on the changeset. there is the revert plugin in josm to cancel all the changes. if it happens agai

[OSM-talk] VANDALISM !

2020-06-07 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
  IF someone, not local, relying on satellite views, goes after my good faith edit, based on my on the ground   surveillance thinks my edit was wrong trying to fix broken polygon’s,  that are making ghosts lines on the   ID edit page. sends me a change-set discussion notice, telling me not to ed

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism by donpedro1980

2017-02-01 Thread Rod Bera
Hi Paul, based on the 3-4 changesets I've just reviewed from them, it doesn't seem super-obvious to me (apart from the rather odd changeset comment: "Many kids can be found playing here and walkers enjoy this area at all times") that they are vandalising. They've been mapping for less than a week

[OSM-talk] Vandalism by donpedro1980

2017-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Could we get a block to get this guy's attention? He's adding things in the Tulsa area that have no basis in reality in an apparent attempt to game Pokemon Go, and unresponsive to changeset comments from myself and nammala ___ talk mailing list talk@open

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-28 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 3:17 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 26/02/2016 22:21, Mike Thompson wrote: > >> Thanks! I haven't found any valid edits from this user. He/she has been >> tagging any patch of bare ground as building=house. In some cases there >> might be a building inside that bare

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-28 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 26/02/2016 22:21, Mike Thompson wrote: Thanks! I haven't found any valid edits from this user. He/she has been tagging any patch of bare ground as building=house. In some cases there might be a building inside that bare patch of ground (difficult to tell with the imagery), but in most cas

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Dale Kunce
Missing maps reached out to the user today with some guidance and information that edits are live. We've also cleaned up the offending data. Well continue to figure out if this was at an event and work to tighten up any training gaps. Thanks everyone. On Feb 26, 2016 4:39 PM, "Mike Thompson" wro

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Thompson
DWG has been contacted. Changeset comment has been entered along the lines Andy suggested. I am not at a place at the moment where I can revert, if someone else whats to handle that would be great. Mike On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 26/02/2016 21:09, Mike Thompson

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Pierre Béland
nd to objects on the ground. They were traced in wood areas in mountains. Yes the DWG should look at this.   Pierre De : Chris Hill À : Mike Thompson ; OpenStreetMap Envoyé le : vendredi 26 février 2016 16h15 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism Email the data working gr

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 21:09, Mike Thompson wrote: ... appear to be of very poor quality, or out right vandalism. How should this be handled? In this particular case, the changeset comments suggest it's a remote HOT project ("#hotosm-project-1401#Missin

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Thompson
Chris, Andy, Thanks! I haven't found any valid edits from this user. He/she has been tagging any patch of bare ground as building=house. In some cases there might be a building inside that bare patch of ground (difficult to tell with the imagery), but in most cases there is nothing. Mike On F

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Chris Hill
Email the data working group d...@openstreetmap.org with details they can block the user. -- Cheers, Chris (chillly) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2016 20:55, Mike Thompson wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37315914 Should I just manually delete, or would it be better for someone to do a revert. In a a case where someone has made a few valid edits and then something that obviously isn't, I'd personally start with

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Thompson
So far all of the edits by user: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/G%20Jenny appear to be of very poor quality, or out right vandalism. How should this be handled? On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37315914 > > Should I just manual

[OSM-talk] Vandalism

2016-02-26 Thread Mike Thompson
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37315914 Should I just manually delete, or would it be better for someone to do a revert. Mike ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism at Estero Bay?

2012-11-05 Thread malenki
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >btw.: wouldn't this merit a natural=bay instead of the note=bay? Of course though somehow I was temporarily blinded or something. ;) Nevertheless Josm mentioned it as "Meeresbucht" (Translation of bay) on the relations window. The user has responded now. He said he di

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism at Estero Bay?

2012-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
btw.: wouldn't this merit a natural=bay instead of the note=bay? cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Vandalism at Estero Bay?

2012-11-04 Thread malenki
User Eraque22 asked on help.osm.org what the issue is with Estero Bay since no water was rendered there. I added a multipolygon to the existing multiple segments of natural=water (not created by Eraque22) so that the water started to get rendered and answered the question¹. The next thing I realise

[OSM-talk] 'Vandalism' alert

2010-10-14 Thread Barnett, Phillip
Not vandalism, but misunderstanding, I believe. Still can someone revert these changesets? (Someone has already alerted him/her in the comments as to inappropriateness) >From the User diaries >http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/djwright7101/diary/12027#comments "Hey I was wondering if anyone on

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-09 Thread Roy Wallace
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:06 AM, wrote: > > Why not go straight into Edit and Save and then have a button to go to > Edit Live (one click to go there as now)? +1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-09 Thread wynndale
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Earl wrote: >> On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> > David Earl wrote: >> >> Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in >> >> Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets >> >> anyway? >> > >> > Lots of people still prefer

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Earl wrote: > I had to revert changes for someone this week who specifically said to > me that's what had happened - he didn't realize he was editing live > data. People don't read stuff in front of them. Well, you can't completely idiot-proof these things, and it's a great shame to incon

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-09 Thread Liz
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Earl wrote: > On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > David Earl wrote: > >> Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in > >> Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets > >> anyway? > > > > Lots of people still prefer it. I've

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/09/2009 00:10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > David Earl wrote: >> Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in >> Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets >> anyway? > > Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any evidence of people > mistakenly sel

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Earl wrote: > Richard - why do we still need this mode now you can save in > Potlatch and groups of changes fit much better with changesets > anyway? Lots of people still prefer it. I've not seen any evidence of people mistakenly selecting it - I think the big lightning bolt is pretty cle

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-08 Thread Matthias Versen
David Earl wrote: > It's obviously nonsense - a way extending right across the globe! But it > looks like scribbling, the kind of thing people do in Potlatch not > realising they are editing the live map. > > Despite the prompts at the beginning people STILL don't realise they are > doing this. Thi

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-08 Thread Matthias Versen
Chris Miller wrote: > than myself please delete it? I haven't done any editing of the osm data Deleted... Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-08 Thread David Earl
It's obviously nonsense - a way extending right across the globe! But it looks like scribbling, the kind of thing people do in Potlatch not realising they are editing the live map. Despite the prompts at the beginning people STILL don't realise they are doing this. This is the second time this

[OSM-talk] Vandalism/user error?

2009-09-08 Thread Chris Miller
I just discovered a suspicious looking edit while working on a map splitter tool (http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/page/tile-splitter), as follows: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/737502 The splitter tool ended up creating a separate area just for node 355719431, which is completely on it

[OSM-talk] Vandalism detection

2009-09-08 Thread Gary68
Hi! Since we had a few "incidents" discussed here earlier that month I created a wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Detect_Vandalism Of course right now we do only have a few tools at hand, but we do have them! Use them! The page also lists a few ideas how to further improve vandalism

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-15 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/10/14 Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Subtle vandalism will always be the hardest to spot. If it is > >>> imagined that it might become a problem, then perhaps uploading a > >>> change to anything which already existed could notify the last 1 or > >>> 2 people that amended that featu

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-14 Thread Tristan Scott
I now use itoworld to give me a RSS feed for sessions of updates in "my" area (or indeed any defined area) Tristan 2008/10/14 Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Subtle vandalism will always be the hardest to spot. If it is > >>> imagined that it might become a problem, then perhaps uploadi

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> Subtle vandalism will always be the hardest to spot. If it is >>> imagined that it might become a problem, then perhaps uploading a >>> change to anything which already existed could notify the last 1 or >>> 2 people that amended that feature, as they are the most likely to >>> know what is cor

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-11 Thread spaetz
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:34:11PM +0200, Stanislav Brabec wrote: > A completely different community project "Discogs" has following policy: > - You can subscribe to news in area of your interest. > - Voting on new data: Tell, how correct and accurate are these changes > are. ... > - Data with mo

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-08 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Stanislav Brabec wrote: > A completely different community project "Discogs" has following policy: > - You can subscribe to news in area of your interest. > - Voting on new data: Tell, how correct and accurate are these changes > are. > - Vote is a privilege, new users don't have vote privilege.

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-08 Thread maning sambale
> - Vote is a privilege, new users don't have vote privilege. -1, sorry. cheers, maning -- |-|--| | __.-._ |"Ohhh. Great warrior. Wars not make one great." -Yoda | | '-._"7' |"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-08 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Matthias Julius wrote: > Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Subtle vandalism will always be the hardest to spot. If it is > >> imagined that it might become a problem, then perhaps uploading a > >> change to anything which already existed could notify the last 1 or > >> 2 people tha

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-06 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > The first step will be a proper "way back" machine. But it hasn't been > > discussed yet, much less designed or implemented : > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Talk:OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6 > > Well, first yo

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-06 Thread Matthias Julius
"Nic Roets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> >> A good diff tool or better a diff API call would be helpful as well. >> With that you could periodically look over the changes in "your" area. >> > > The first step will be a

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-06 Thread Nic Roets
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Matthias Julius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > A good diff tool or better a diff API call would be helpful as well. > With that you could periodically look over the changes in "your" area. > The first step will be a proper "way back" machine. But it hasn't been disc

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-06 Thread Matthias Julius
Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Subtle vandalism will always be the hardest to spot. If it is >> imagined that it might become a problem, then perhaps uploading a >> change to anything which already existed could notify the last 1 or >> 2 people that amended that feature, as they are

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Subtle vandalism will always be the hardest to spot. If it is > imagined that it might become a problem, then perhaps uploading a > change to anything which already existed could notify the last 1 or > 2 people that amended that feature, as they are the most likely to > know what is correct or be

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-06 Thread Peter Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 October 2008 12:53 > To: Peter Miller > Cc: Barnett, Phillip; Talk Openstreetmap > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Using OSM Mapper it is

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-06 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Using OSM Mapper it is already possible to identify who is changing data > within an defined area. Talking of which, is it going to cover the US soon? I'm patiently waiting on it :-) It's been useful to me, most recently i

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-03 Thread Ed Loach
Jeffrey wrote: > Well, none of the schemes proposed so far actually deal with > the case of subtle vandalism. Subtle vandalism will always be the hardest to spot. If it is imagined that it might become a problem, then perhaps uploading a change to anything which already existed could notify the

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism on OSM

2008-10-03 Thread Peter Miller
Using OSM Mapper it is already possible to identify who is changing data within an defined area. I use this to monitor for changes in areas I care about using RSS setting up an RSS feed to check for all changes made by people other than me in the area. We developed the functionally in the product

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-28 Thread paul youlten
I suspect that a large part of the problem is in the delay between making an edit and being able to see it rendered on the map. Maybe if Katie had been able to see the effects of her edits on the map immediately she would have stopped and reverted them herself. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:37 AM, J

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Jo
Richard Fairhurst schreef: > Ulf Lamping wrote: > > >> This all sounds you're trying to cure the pain of not using buffered >> editing with adding another concept that will add another layer of >> confusion ... >> > > Fine. I'm really not going to attempt and convince anyone here - one >

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fairhurst wrote: | David Earl wrote: | |> If nothing else, Richard, can the apparent bug with the mode |> buttons be |> fixed and the text make it clearer that live data is being changed |> when |> you press start? | | It's not a bug as such -

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ulf Lamping wrote: > This all sounds you're trying to cure the pain of not using buffered > editing with adding another concept that will add another layer of > confusion ... Fine. I'm really not going to attempt and convince anyone here - one has to be a bit of a pig-headed UI fascist to devel

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Ulf Lamping
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: > Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> Is the fact that Potlatch does live editing a design decision, or are >> there technical reasons behind it (i.e. it would be much more >> difficult to have a Flash editor with a "save" button)? >> > It's a design decision. If you do "bu

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: > People use Potlatch because it is much quicker to load, learn, and > use. This would not be diminished by a save button On which point we disagree, I suspect irreconcilably; and respectfully I suggest the greater cause of OSM usability would be better served by us each

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > > Is the fact that Potlatch does live editing a design decision, or are > > there technical reasons behind it (i.e. it would be much more > > difficult to have a Flash editor with a "save" button)? > > It's a design decision. If you do "buffered editing", you have to a) > do conflict mana

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Shaun McDonald wrote: > I see this behaviour in Safari too. Also if you just go and start > working on the data, it assumes start/live mode. I think this should > be made modal, so that you can't accidentally choose the live mode, > when play is the one that is really wanted. It would be nice to h

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 27 Apr 2008, at 17:52, David Earl wrote: > On 26/04/2008 23:36, David Earl wrote: >> This user has removed or overlaid quite a few roads around >> Trumpington, Cambridge, and replaced several streets with >> cycleways, run >> a tertiary road along the river and across a farm track, and >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: > Is the fact that Potlatch does live editing a design decision, or are > there technical reasons behind it (i.e. it would be much more > difficult to have a Flash editor with a "save" button)? It's a design decision. If you do "buffered editing", you have to a) do conflict

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Earl wrote: > Are you aware that in IE7 at least, the buttons can vanish after > only a > second or two of visibility? No, I'm not. Interesting. Time to fire up Parallels... (Translation: ing Internet ing Explorer bunch of ing clowns.) cheers Richard _

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/04/2008 18:37, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > David Earl wrote: > >> If nothing else, Richard, can the apparent bug with the mode >> buttons be >> fixed and the text make it clearer that live data is being changed >> when >> you press start? > > It's not a bug as such - it's currently inten

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > But this raises once again the ease with which people who don't know > what they are doing can wreck things unintentionally. My personal major problem with Potlatch (while it is altogether a great thing, etc.etc.) is that it edits "live". Most editors I have encountered until now let you e

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/04/2008 17:49, Skywave wrote: > You can convert that file. Just search for 04to05.pl in SVN/TRAC Thanks! That almost worked - the conversion left some empty strings in the XML which JOSM didn't like, but removing those redundant lines got me the data I needed.# With copy and paste betwee

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Earl wrote: > If nothing else, Richard, can the apparent bug with the mode > buttons be > fixed and the text make it clearer that live data is being changed > when > you press start? It's not a bug as such - it's currently intentional that it defaults to "edit the data" - but I do agr

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh. I thought this had been done. So what happens if someone deletes the > whole of Cambridge? What I used to do was after uploading an area I also saved it to disk. So I had saved copies of my neighbourhood. If you noticed

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't believe that there are any tools available for rollback and > > the like beyond those in the editors, so everyone is on an equal > > footing when it comes to rolling back. > > > > Oh. I thought this had been done.

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread David Earl
On 26/04/2008 23:36, David Earl wrote: > This user has removed or overlaid quite a few roads around > Trumpington, Cambridge, and replaced several streets with cycleways, run > a tertiary road along the river and across a farm track, and generally > made a complete mess of my careful mapping in

[OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Skywave
You can convert that file. Just search for 04to05.pl in SVN/TRAC On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27/04/2008 17:25, Andy Allan wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:36 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Would it be possible to roll back cha

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/04/2008 17:25, Andy Allan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:36 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Would it be possible to roll back changes made by user Katie after 17:40 >> on April 16? > > I don't believe that there are any tools available for rollback and > the like beyond th

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism, was Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Jeffrey Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does the project have any long term plans on how to deal > with vandalism? There's more ideas than there are developers willing and capable of implementing them! > Should some features be locked? > > Do we need some kind

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:36 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be possible to roll back changes made by user Katie after 17:40 > on April 16? I don't believe that there are any tools available for rollback and the like beyond those in the editors, so everyone is on an equal fo

[OSM-talk] Vandalism, was Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Renaud Martinet
There's a page on the wiki with a proposal about grouping changes into changesets that can easily be rolled back. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Changesets_and_Reverts On 4/27/08, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27/04/2008 07:58, Jeffrey Martin wrote: > > Does the proje

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism, was Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/04/2008 07:58, Jeffrey Martin wrote: > Does the project have any long term plans on how to deal > with vandalism? > > Should some features be locked? > > Do we need some kind of hierarchy with block captains > and country coordinators? (I don't want that.) I doubt we'll know for sure, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism, was Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Does the project have any long term plans on how to deal with vandalism? Should some features be locked? Do we need some kind of hierarchy with block captains and country coordinators? (I don't want that.) On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:36 AM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be poss

[OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-26 Thread David Earl
Would it be possible to roll back changes made by user Katie after 17:40 on April 16? This user has removed or overlaid quite a few roads around Trumpington, Cambridge, and replaced several streets with cycleways, run a tertiary road along the river and across a farm track, and generally made a

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-04 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, >The version I downloaded three days ago still allows to move entire ways >-- and indeed will do if you press the cursor keys while a way is >selected. That's correct. It has been made considerably harder to move stuff with the mouse, and to compensate we have introduced the "nudg

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-04 Thread Ludwig
The version I downloaded three days ago still allows to move entire ways -- and indeed will do if you press the cursor keys while a way is selected. Ludwig On 04/03/2008, OJ W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it still possible to move an entire object in JOSM, or is it now > limited to one node

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-04 Thread OJ W
Is it still possible to move an entire object in JOSM, or is it now limited to one node at a time? On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Martijn Verwijmeren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:50:34 + > Ludwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- first all make a bulk move more difficul

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-04 Thread Ludwig
Very recent, built 571 downloaded 02 March. The nudging works if I have a way selected and then press shift and cursor. The problem is that some other application I am using has this key-combination for navigation, so I almost automatically use it when trying to navigate. It is all my fault of co

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-04 Thread Martijn Verwijmeren
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:50:34 + Ludwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- first all make a bulk move more difficult, so it cannot be executed > unless intended to. How recent is your copy of JOSM? Somewhere in the last month it was made more difficult to accidentally move objects in JOSM. m.v.g.,

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-04 Thread Ludwig
Vandalism is certainly one case of damage to OSM data, but as has been pointed out by others it can also happen accidentally. I have learned to be very careful when editing data as I of course want it to be as good as possible. But with JOSM it is quite easy to move all points when in fact all tha

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 21:14 +0100, micha ruh wrote: > > It looks like the whole coastline of cuba has been deleted, surely > > some streets in Havanna also. > > Should I fix it? - No, it certainly gets deleted again. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-03 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Sun, 2008-03-02 at 21:14 +0100, micha ruh wrote: > It looks like the whole coastline of cuba has been deleted, surely > some streets in Havanna also. > Should I fix it? - No, it certainly gets deleted again. Perhaps a big warning in potlatch when deleting stuff would be good/annoying. -- Bruce

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-03 Thread Skywave
I remember now, i did that, so i could upload coastline for the whole of Cuba and then merg the better quality again. But i found that the PGS data had too many holes and decided not to upload it. But then forgot to undelete it. On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-03 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM, micha ruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi OSM, > > just after I finished traceing the coastline of the port of Havanna, Cuba i > noticed oddly looking > clusters of untagged nodes in the city. humm.. Nodes placed at intersections > looks reasonable, > but where are t

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is Cuba?'

2008-03-03 Thread Michael Collinson
FYI, I did a detailed trace of the whole of the Port of Havana coastline and less detailed to some 100km or so to the west in, IRC, December. Before that, there was no Cuban coastline at all unless already deleted. There was a very, very small number of main streets in Havana. Mike At 10

Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-03 Thread graham
I know it seems unlikely, but I guess there is no proof that it is not an accident rather than deliberate vandalism? Graham micha ruh wrote: > Hi OSM, > > just after I finished traceing the coastline of the port of Havanna, > Cuba i noticed oddly looking > clusters of untagged nodes in the cit

[OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

2008-03-02 Thread micha ruh
Hi OSM, just after I finished traceing the coastline of the port of Havanna, Cuba i noticed oddly looking clusters of untagged nodes in the city. humm.. Nodes placed at intersections looks reasonable, but where are the ways? humm.. Time to test the Undo-Feature of potlach: 'U' is the key to press.