Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Miller
On 8 Nov 2009, at 20:12, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: My reading of this is that CloudMade are claiming (c) over the rendered images which would make it illegal to copy them without permission. Such a restriction is of course incompatible with the CC-BY-SA OSM data

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Miller
On 11 Nov 2009, at 14:58, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: My reading of this is that CloudMade are claiming (c) over the rendered images which would make it illegal to copy them without permission. Such a restriction is of

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: To be clear, the ODbL license, when it arrives, will allow people to create renderings [...] I tend to use a slightly different wording: The ODbL license, if we should adopt it, would allow people to create... I'm trying not to create the impression that ODbL is a

[OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Miller
On 8 Nov 2009, at 20:12, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Childs
While the map quaility may have some weight as to why people use Google (or Bing for that matter) I suspect the bigger problem is the User Interface. We have a good UI for map making maps but the API for rending and searching the maps is hmm well complicated. Part of the problem stems from there

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Miller
On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:36, Peter Childs wrote: While the map quaility may have some weight as to why people use Google (or Bing for that matter) I suspect the bigger problem is the User Interface. We have a good UI for map making maps but the API for rending and searching the maps is hmm

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 10 Nov 2009, at 12:20, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:36, Peter Childs wrote: While the map quaility may have some weight as to why people use Google (or Bing for that matter) I suspect the bigger problem is the User Interface. We have a good UI for map making maps but the

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Miller
On 10 Nov 2009, at 12:33, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 10 Nov 2009, at 12:20, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 Nov 2009, at 11:36, Peter Childs wrote: While the map quaility may have some weight as to why people use Google (or Bing for that matter) I suspect the bigger problem is the User

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Konrad Skeri
While OSM is extremely powerful and present us with limitless posibilities, I very much doubt that every user would set up an own tile server and write a rendering definition. In fact most irregular users (like the ones getting a static map to show the location of their office at a website) will

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Shaun McDonald
The style I mentioned below was made by turning the buildings off using the CloudMade Style Editor, which is a lot easier and significantly faster than changing a stylesheet and setting up a tile server. I have used Web Maps Lite (similar to OpenLayers) on my own site, with tiles coming from

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-10 Thread Dave F.
Peter Miller wrote: 2) The tube and railway symbols are not the normal ones used within the UK. I will suggest that the overlay the normal UK symbols on the map in some editing software. I'm sure there are people here (Transit?) who know more, but if you mean this symbol:

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-08 Thread Lester Caine
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM maps for their business website if they spent a week surveying their surrounding area / creating custom renderings. But that's not very helpful when they can just embed Google instantly and get the same results.

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-08 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM maps for their business website if they spent a week surveying their surrounding area / creating custom renderings. But that's not very

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-08 Thread Liz
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM maps for their business website if they spent a week surveying their surrounding area / creating

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-08 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM maps for their business website if they

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-07 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: What the web person *should* have done is looked at OSM in their new location and fixed the underlying data (if it was wrong or incomplete) or made their own map based on the data, but omitting the features

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-07 Thread Dave F.
Liz wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Dave F. wrote: I asked an NGO based in London why they use Google Maps instead of OSM on their 'contact us' page To all the people who posted earlier than me: Yes, you all stated how it could be done how to correct it, but... You haven't

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-07 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM maps for their business website if they spent a week surveying their surrounding area / creating custom renderings. But that's not very helpful when they can just

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-07 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 7 Nov 2009, at 13:32, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM maps for their business website if they spent a week surveying their surrounding area / creating custom renderings.

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-07 Thread Tom Chance
2009/11/7 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk Maybe we need some method for companies/organisations to be able to say that an area isn't surveyed to a level they want and that they would like a particular area to be surveyed to a higher degree for a specific purpose. OpenStreetBugs is

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-07 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: On 7 Nov 2009, at 13:32, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, we know that everyone could probably use OSM maps for their business website if they

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do you use Google Maps instead of OSM? Because of buildings...

2009-11-07 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 07 Nov 2009 2:30:54 pm Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Likewise setting up your own rendering takes half a day at best if you're not already familiar with the rendering tools involved. OSM reflects changes within minutes -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS