Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-07 Thread 80n
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Stephen Gower < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:48:18PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: > > > > if we are going to have an 'attribution' page on the wiki[1], with the > > fine print regarding sources of various chunks of data, would a link > > to

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-07 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:48:18PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: > > if we are going to have an 'attribution' page on the wiki[1], with the > fine print regarding sources of various chunks of data, would a link > to it be possible, on the main map page? titled say 'data attribution' > or 'data sourc

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-07 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/4/3 Robert Vollmert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I may be missing something, but why would we need to introduce a read- > only attribution tag if we already have it? It's the source tag of the > first version of an object, in > > http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5///history fantastic. like it

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Robert Vollmert wrote: > I may be missing something, but why would we need to introduce a read- > only attribution tag if we already have it? It's the source tag of the > first version of an object, in > > http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5///history +1 Sebastian __

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset

2008-04-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:02 PM, David Ebling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > well, the attribution they want is so close to that > >demanded by > > cc-by-sa as to have no real-world difference > > >>whenever we display NZ we would have to display > "crown > >>copyright" somewhere totally u

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Chris Hill
> I may be missing something, but why would we need to introduce a read- > only attribution tag if we already have it? It's the source tag of the > first version of an object, in > > http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5///history > > Cheers > Robert > > + 1 Cheers, Chris _

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robert Vollmert wrote: > I may be missing something, but why would we need to introduce a read- > only attribution tag if we already have it? It's the source tag of the > first version of an object, in > > http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5///history cheers Richard _

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Apr 2, 2008, at 13:08, Cartinus wrote: > On Wednesday 02 April 2008 12:02:49 Robin Paulson wrote: >> >> true, but as i suggested in a previous mail, i'm not sure why someone >> would need to do this. if a user is importing another dataset which >> needs attribution, they would likely be someon

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 02/04/2008, Cartinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > there's no reason (in theory) the person carrying out the import of > > > the second, or third, or whatever, 'approved' source, couldn't > > > temporarily be g

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 12:02:49 Robin Paulson wrote: > On 02/04/2008, Cartinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > there's no reason (in theory) the person carrying out the import of > > > the second, or third, or whatever, 'approved' source, couldn't > > > temporarily be given write-status for

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Robin Paulson
On 02/04/2008, Cartinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there's no reason (in theory) the person carrying out the import of > > the second, or third, or whatever, 'approved' source, couldn't > > temporarily be given write-status for that tag. it was only intended > > to be read-only for the majo

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-02 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 00:03:37 Robin Paulson wrote: > "I'm talking about combining the best parts of the data from two "approved" > sources and reflecting both sources in the source tag. This is not > possible, without deleting and recreating the original object, if the > source tag becomes re

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset

2008-04-02 Thread Robin Paulson
On 02/04/2008, David Ebling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I the only person observing this conversation on > the mailing list who is deeply, deeply concerned by > the notion of importing data that requires attribution > other than the standard OSM CC-by-SA? The fact that well, the attribution

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset

2008-04-02 Thread David Ebling
Am I the only person observing this conversation on the mailing list who is deeply, deeply concerned by the notion of importing data that requires attribution other than the standard OSM CC-by-SA? The fact that whenever we display NZ we would have to display "crown copyright" somewhere totally unde

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-01 Thread Robin Paulson
we and linz are happy with > cheers, Chris > > - Original Message > > From: Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: talk@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 April, 2008 9:

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-01 Thread Robin Paulson
On 02/04/2008, Cartinus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 01 April 2008 22:46:39 Robin Paulson wrote: > > *osm will carry out: > > > 4. ??? creating an 'attribution' tag, which can only be edited by > > select members of the community. this tag will be applied only to > > items requiri

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-01 Thread Cartinus
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 22:46:39 Robin Paulson wrote: > *osm will carry out: > 4. ??? creating an 'attribution' tag, which can only be edited by > select members of the community. this tag will be applied only to > items requiring attribution ??? This one is definitely in the wrong one of the

[OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-01 Thread Robin Paulson
many thanks to all that participated in the recent discussions on attributing data provided by land information new zealand. i've read through all that was discussed and written down a brief summary of what osm will do and won't do, on the wiki: i don't recall if there was ever a definite 'yes' or