[talk-ph] SatCam

[Jim Morgan]

Might be useful occasionally for getting Satellite images? "In return for
submitting their observations, users receive a copy of the satellite image
that was taken at their location"

iPhone only though. Why do developers do that? :-(

Jim

15. SatCam
http://satcam.ssec.wisc.edu

SatCam is a citizen science smartphone app that helps improve the quality
of information derived from satellite data. Users capture observations of
sky and ground conditions when a satellite is overhead. This data is then
submitted to the Space Science and Engineering Center at the University of
Wisconsin - Madison where it is used for quality control. In return for
submitting their observations, users receive a copy of the satellite image
that was taken at their location. SatCam currently works with the Terra,
Aqua, and Suomi NPP satellite networks. Sample submissions can be viewed
through the Browse SatCam Records link at the top of the page. SatCam is
available for iOS can be downloaded via the App Store. [CRH]


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[Talk-in] OpenStreetMap Mapathon - Hyderabad

[Chetan H A]

Hello everyone,

I will be running a mapathon
 in
Hyderabad next Saturday (12th May). Will be good if I could get local
mappers around the event. I assume, this will be first OSM Mapathon
happening in Hyderabad. Would like to see many enthusiastic people in the
event. Looking forward! If you have any questions, you can reach me on
twitter @chtnha

Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-at] Lizenzen bei Daten von Gemeinden

[Johann Haag]

Link zur Diskussion: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=62236

Am 4. Mai 2018 um 09:51 schrieb Stefan K. :

> Hallo,
>
> im Forum geht es gerade bzgl. Lizenzen etwas her:
> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=61870=4
> Konkret geht es eigentlich um folgenden Post:
> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=697584#p697584
>
> Ich persönlich verstehe das ja seitens Gemeinde als Hinweis, dass dort die
> Daten verfügbar sind, allerdings nicht explizit als Erlaubnis zur
> Verwendung, eben auch nicht unter welcher Lizenz.
>
> wiki the map macht offensichtlich viel bzgl. Adresseinbindung, was gut
> ist, aber die rechtlichen Dinge gehören eben auch beachtet. Und im
> restlichen Thread wurde erfolglos versucht das zu erklären - vielleicht
> kann das jemand von der Mailingliste besser erklären oder sagen, dass das
> so eh schon passt :)
>
> Wenn hier auf der Mailingliste geantwortet wird, wird das sicher auch
> seinen Weg ins Forum finden.
>
> Lg
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

[Mark Wagner]

Japanese has three *alphabets* (well, two syllabaries and a set of
logographs), but only one writing system.  For any given thing you want
to write, there's only one correct set of symbols to use.

-- 
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On Fri, 4 May 2018 08:11:14 +0200
Jo  wrote:

> Japanese has 3 writing systems.
> 
> Jo
> 
> 2018-05-04 1:10 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć :
> 
> > W dniu 04.05.2018 o 00:33, Joe Matazzoni pisze:
> >
> > Here is the list of languages Wikimedia supports. https://en.
> > wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix
> > 
> >  .
> > As to the toolchain, if you ask that question on the project page,
> > some of our engineers will be able to respond.  Be sure to explain
> > why you’re asking, so we can answer you fully.
> >
> >
> > It's not exactly what interests me:
> >
> > a) do you want to support all these languages (not how many of them
> > are there)?
> >
> > b) how many server resources do you need for rendering 
> > languages that you want to support (not the software stack used)?
> >
> > Do you know it or should I ask the engineers anyway?
> >
> > That is a very interesting edge case we hadn’t thought of.  We’ll
> > have to look into that one; our lead engineer just wrote a ticket
> > to investigate: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193815
> > .
> >  I know about Serbian. What other languages do this?
> >
> >
> > Belorusian has two writing systems (see http://openstreetmap.by for
> > 4 languages demo).
> >
> > Chineese has few different writing systems.
> >
> > Buginese can use Lontara or Latin script.
> >
> >
> > There might be more of such cases.
> >
> > --
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Re: [talk-au] Open Mapping team at Microsoft Australian edits

[osm.talk-au]

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58382600

This user, which on his user page says "I am proud to be in Microsoft Open Maps 
team." Has been making a lot of "Fixed geometry" changesets.

Now, the motorway he worked on did indeed in part need fixing, as it was in 
places 10-30m out of position.

But the particular stretch in that changeset I just fixed up myself a few days 
earlier, using imagery with corrected offsets, and taking into account tagged 
lane information (because of the placement tag, the "way" that defines the 
motorway is not always in the absolute centre of all lanes).

I made a changeset comment to which I didn't get a reply, so I send a direct 
message to the user on 29th April to which I also didn't get a replay.

Cheers,
Thorsten

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> From: Ewen Hill 
> Sent: Saturday, 5 May 2018 12:07
> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Open Mapping team at Microsoft Australian
> edits
> 
> Thanks for the heads up.
>I have found a large number of canals/ditches added as minor
> roads or tracks in NW Victoria as well as fences as tracks etc. I
> have sent a message however has anyone else noticed other issues in
> the following areas?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Talk-us] iD news - v2.8.0, GSoC, OSM-US Hackathon 5/21-5/22 at Mapbox DC!

[Bryan Housel]

Hello all!  I’ve got a bunch of exciting items to share about iD - please check 
out the news and share..


  iD 2.8.0 released, including Community Index 
We've changed how things look on the post-upload screen. Now after saving your 
edits, you will see a list of OpenStreetMap communities that are active around 
the area where you are editing.  Reach out to nearby mappers and say hello!

If your local community group or meetup is missing, please open an issue or 
pull request here: 
https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index/ 


Changelog:
v2.8.0 changelog:  
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#280 


Twitter:
v2.8.0 announcement, community index: 
https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/985981732737314818 




  Google Summer of Code!
OpenStreetMap is again participating in Google Summer of Code, and we have 2 
projects to improve iD.  Welcome Princi and Thomas!

•  Princi Vershwal (mentored by Sajjad Anwar) will be adding support for 
viewing vector tiled data:
   https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Princi%20Vershwal/diary/43802 


•  Thomas Hervey (mentored by Marc Farra) will be adding support for OSM Notes:
   https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Thomas_Hervey/diary/43795 


Twitter:
iD GSoC announcement:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/990337518754238469 




‍  OSM US Spring Hackathon - 5/21-5/22 at Mapbox DC
Join us May 21-22 in Washington, DC at the Mapbox office for a 2 day OSM 
hackathon!  
Stop by between 9am-6pm and work with us, followed by an evening social event. 

This is the perfect opportunity to meet up with other developers, designers, 
and mappers in the OSM community and build something awesome. It could be a new 
feature for an open source project, a fun map style, a documentation or 
translation improvement, or something completely random.
 
Bring your laptops and your ideas. All are welcome!

Details and RSVP HERE:  https://osmhacks.splashthat.com/ 


Looking for ideas? Check out :
OSM Top 10 Tasks:  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks 

osmlab/osm-planning: https://github.com/osmlab/osm-planning 


Twitter:
OSM US Spring Hackathon:  
https://twitter.com/OpenStreetMapUS/status/987502081866190849 




Follow and star the iD project on GitHub to show your support:  
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD 
And follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/bhousel 
 for the latest iD news. 

Thank you!
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[OSM-talk] iD news - v2.8.0, GSoC, OSM-US Hackathon 5/21-5/22 at Mapbox DC!

[Bryan Housel]

Hello all!  I’ve got a bunch of exciting items to share about iD - please check 
out the news and share..


  iD 2.8.0 released, including Community Index 
We've changed how things look on the post-upload screen. Now after saving your 
edits, you will see a list of OpenStreetMap communities that are active around 
the area where you are editing.  Reach out to nearby mappers and say hello!

If your local community group or meetup is missing, please open an issue or 
pull request here: 
https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index/ 


Changelog:
v2.8.0 changelog:  
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#280 


Twitter:
v2.8.0 announcement, community index: 
https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/985981732737314818 




  Google Summer of Code!
OpenStreetMap is again participating in Google Summer of Code, and we have 2 
projects to improve iD.  Welcome Princi and Thomas!

•  Princi Vershwal (mentored by Sajjad Anwar) will be adding support for 
viewing vector tiled data:
   https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Princi%20Vershwal/diary/43802 


•  Thomas Hervey (mentored by Marc Farra) will be adding support for OSM Notes:
   https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Thomas_Hervey/diary/43795 


Twitter:
iD GSoC announcement:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/990337518754238469 




‍  OSM US Spring Hackathon - 5/21-5/22 at Mapbox DC
Join us May 21-22 in Washington, DC at the Mapbox office for a 2 day OSM 
hackathon!  
Stop by between 9am-6pm and work with us, followed by an evening social event. 

This is the perfect opportunity to meet up with other developers, designers, 
and mappers in the OSM community and build something awesome. It could be a new 
feature for an open source project, a fun map style, a documentation or 
translation improvement, or something completely random.
 
Bring your laptops and your ideas. All are welcome!

Details and RSVP HERE:  https://osmhacks.splashthat.com/ 


Looking for ideas? Check out :
OSM Top 10 Tasks:  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks 

osmlab/osm-planning: https://github.com/osmlab/osm-planning 


Twitter:
OSM US Spring Hackathon:  
https://twitter.com/OpenStreetMapUS/status/987502081866190849 




Follow and star the iD project on GitHub to show your support:  
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD 
And follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/bhousel 
 for the latest iD news. 

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Re: [talk-au] Open Mapping team at Microsoft Australian edits

[Ewen Hill]

Thanks for the heads up. 
   I have found a large number of canals/ditches added as minor roads or
tracks in NW Victoria as well as fences as tracks etc. I have sent a message
however has anyone else noticed other issues in the following areas?

 



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Re: [OSM-ja] 高速道路の定義について(まとめページ)

[yuu hayashi]

hayashiです

「道路法」だけでなく「道路交通法」にも目を向けて頂いたところでOSMにも注目していただきたいです。
現行のJapanTaggingでは「自動専用道路'標識'」をマッピングするように指定されています。
「自動車専用道路'標識'」は「高速自動車国道と自動車専用道路の指定」ですよね。

motorwayだけでなく trunk, primary, secondary も'標識'をもって識別するように定義されています。
これは「道路法」だけを意識したものではなく、日本の法令を総合的に分析した結果得られた結論だということが読み取れます。

また、JapanTaggingは日本の法令のみならず、OpenStreetMapの体系にも配慮がなされています。

・Worldwideとの互換性
・地物の識別性
・リレーションとWAY,NODEとの関係
・KEY:highwayとしての一貫性

などに配慮されて居ることは、以前の投稿で指摘したとおりです。

しかるに「改定案」には上記のOpenStreetMapの体系についての考慮が一切行われていないのはここでの議論によって明白になりました。

また、「改定」を行うならば、上記の項目に加えて

・改定の有用性・必要性
・改定による影響
・既存方式との互換性
・既存データの扱い

にも考慮しなければならないはずですが、これらも考慮されているとは思えませんし、ここでの議論においてもいずれも解決のレベルには至っていません。

そもそも「提案１」は、JapanTaggingの「自動車専用道路」を「道路法の自動車専用道路」と誤認しているように見受けられます。
あまの氏が指摘しているように日本の法令は「ぐちゃぐちゃに絡まって」いますので、「道路法」だけではなく「道交法」や「標識に関する省令」等を絡めて統合的に判断する必要があります。
それと、ここは日本の法令の議論をする場所ではありません。
OpenStreetMapの場ですから OSMを絡めた議論をお願いいたします。




2018年5月4日 21:20 Ras and Road :

Ras and Road です。

hayashiさん、早速の回答ありがとうございます。

motorwayの定義を変更することによる影響は事実とのこと、承知しました。


あまのさんの4/24質問に対するhayashiさんの4/24投稿は見つけられませんでしたので、
4/29の投稿を元にhayashiさんの主張について理解を深めてみました。

交通教則では、道路には自動車専用道路とそうでない道路があって、その通行の仕方について説明しているとのこと。
交通教則上は「高速道路」という表現のはず※ですが、主旨は理解しました。

交通教則は「道路交通法」の施行に関連する国家公安委員会告示でして、道路交通の視点では一般道よりも高速道路のほうが道路品質が高く、また、それ以上の規定がないのはそのとおりでしょう。
※「高速道路とは、高速自動車国道と自動車専用道路をいいます。」と書かれています（はずです）。


道路網の整備について定めた「道路法」の体系を元にした意見とすれ違うのは当然ですね。（噛み合わない理由がようやく理解できました）

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Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Janko, while I agree that it is possible in theory, I am not sure this is a
big problem. After all, if you are downloading a single region, you are
much more likely to know more about that region, and not need any
defaults.  The problem solved by the default_language is fairly specific to
planet-level maps, where there are too many languages to manage
realistically.   I think that adding and managing this tag on every
possible region (tens of thousands?), just in case someone somewhere might
need it seems like a bad idea. Appending it dynamically on download might
be ok, but again - there has to be someone whom this benefit in a
significant way, and this has to be a simpler solution than alternatives.

One option BTW might be to create a service that produces a map of defaults
- than it would be a relatively small download, allowing users to convert
any geopoint into a language.


On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 2:25 AM Janko Mihelić  wrote:

> sub, 5. svi 2018. u 00:18 Yuri Astrakhan 
> napisao je:
>
>>
>> Tag description:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:default_language
>>
>
> I like it overall. I'm not sure about this one:
> *Do not set it on any smaller sub-regions unless their default language is
> different.*
>
> I agree that is cleaner, but what if a data consumer only downloads one US
> state, how will it know the default language? Maybe there are some other
> ways I'm not aware of, like filling in the gaps in data before publishing
> derived maps.
>
> If this is indeed a problem for data consumers, I would set the tag on all
> subregions up until a sensible level. We can see the smallest size of a
> region some applications offer for download.
>
> Janko
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Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

[Janko Mihelić]

sub, 5. svi 2018. u 00:18 Yuri Astrakhan  napisao
je:

>
> Tag description:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:default_language
>

I like it overall. I'm not sure about this one:
*Do not set it on any smaller sub-regions unless their default language is
different.*

I agree that is cleaner, but what if a data consumer only downloads one US
state, how will it know the default language? Maybe there are some other
ways I'm not aware of, like filling in the gaps in data before publishing
derived maps.

If this is indeed a problem for data consumers, I would set the tag on all
subregions up until a sensible level. We can see the smallest size of a
region some applications offer for download.

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Re: [Talk-at] Lizenzen bei Daten von Gemeinden

[Johann Haag]

Hallo,
ich verstehe das talk Forum -aus bekannten Gründen- nicht als geeinten Ort,
um offene Diskussionen aus dem Webforum zu klären, und werde einen weiteren
möglichen Diskussionsverlauf hier, daher inhaltlich ignorieren. Wer
mitdiskutieren möchte kann solches unter Angabe seiner OpenStreetMap
Identität im Forum erledigen.

Grüße Johann

Am 4. Mai 2018 um 09:51 schrieb Stefan K. :

> Hallo,
>
> im Forum geht es gerade bzgl. Lizenzen etwas her:
> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=61870=4
> Konkret geht es eigentlich um folgenden Post:
> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=697584#p697584
>
> Ich persönlich verstehe das ja seitens Gemeinde als Hinweis, dass dort die
> Daten verfügbar sind, allerdings nicht explizit als Erlaubnis zur
> Verwendung, eben auch nicht unter welcher Lizenz.
>
> wiki the map macht offensichtlich viel bzgl. Adresseinbindung, was gut
> ist, aber die rechtlichen Dinge gehören eben auch beachtet. Und im
> restlichen Thread wurde erfolglos versucht das zu erklären - vielleicht
> kann das jemand von der Mailingliste besser erklären oder sagen, dass das
> so eh schon passt :)
>
> Wenn hier auf der Mailingliste geantwortet wird, wird das sicher auch
> seinen Weg ins Forum finden.
>
> Lg
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Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

[Yuri Astrakhan]

I have set this value on some of the more obvious cases in N & S Americas.
I have also created a wiki page describing the tag. Any help with this is
greatly appreciated, especially if you have local knowledge about
subregions!

Tag description:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:default_language

P.S. Janko, please take a look at the single vs multiple languages per
region in that wiki page.  Does that make sense?


On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 1:01 PM Janko Mihelić  wrote:

> pon, 30. tra 2018. u 08:28 Yuri Astrakhan 
> napisao je:
>
>>
>> "official_language" is not a good tag name because it does not match the
>> meaning, e.g. the official languages of Canada are both en & fr, but
>> "name"
>> tag is always in English except for Quebec, where it is in French.
>>
>
>  I agree that "official_language" has a much too restrictive meaning. It
> will bury us in bureaucracy of "what is actually official".
> "default_language" is a bit vague, but maybe a better fit to solve this
> problem.
>
> So just look at a region, see in what language >90% of the labels are, and
> add default_language=*. It's not going to be 100% accurate, but infinitely
> better then nothing. Than try to get closer to 100% by adding
> default_language to subregions, and in the end, individual objects.
>
> I like that approach.
>
> Janko
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Re: [Talk-it] Cucina multietnica, tag?

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

On 04/05/18 17:56, Andrea Albani wrote:

Il ven 4 mag 2018, 11:23 liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu <
liste.gira...@posteo.eu> ha scritto:


cuisine=international?



Cucina internazionale penso sia ciò che viene proposto in alcuni ristoranti
stellati.
Qui vedrei più un elenco dei tipi di cucine, quindi ad esempio

cuisine=chinese;vietnamese;pizza




Allora per il momento lascio il vecchio tag, chi poi ci andrà a mangiare 
capirà meglio o casomai quando ho tempo vedo il menu all'esterno com'è.



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Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

[Borbus]

On 04/05/18 20:10, Brian Prangle wrote:
When will it be  appropriate to do a mechanical edit and remove the 47 
instances of this store that can be seen in Overpass? Have they all 
closed now?  My local one is now closed and leaving a large gap on its 
retail  park


Just a note for if you do do this: the shop in my town was named 'Toys Я 
Us' with alt_name set to 'Toys "R" Us'. Worth adding those alternatives 
to your search as the second one at least is probably used a lot.


Happy mapping,

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Re: [Talk-GB] Toys R Us

[Paul Berry]

Perhaps appropriate when the signage is taken down from any of their former
stores en masse. In the meantime nothing stopping you mechanically adding
disused :shop
=yes
 to all instances now,
I would think.

Is there precedent on OSM for this? What are the plans for the 200 or so
Maplin stores?

Regards,
*Paul*

On 4 May 2018 at 20:10, Brian Prangle  wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> When will it be  appropriate to do a mechanical edit and remove the 47
> instances of this store that can be seen in Overpass? Have they all closed
> now?  My local one is now closed and leaving a large gap on its retail  park
>
> Ditto Maplins
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Come inserire un CAAF

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

On 4. May 2018, at 20:55, Luca Delucchi  wrote:

>> name=CISL - Confederazione Italiana Sindacati Lavoratori 
> 
> 
> Secondo me andrebbe utilizzato operator e con solo la dicitura estesa


io l’avevo messo in “network” perché in operator andava un’altra cosa: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5589059326
(forse ho interpretato male?)

è vero che non mettiamo abbreviazioni, ma ci sono delle eccezioni, pochi casi 
quando è praticamente inusuale usare la forma estesa, per esempio in brand ci 
metti BMW o Bayerische Motorenwerke? Scrivi Srl o società a responsabilità 
limitata? SpA? RAI? 

Per un nome si potrebbe sempre usare short_name per l’abbreviazione, in 
short_operator non esiste finora.

Ciao, Martin 

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[Talk-GB] Toys R Us

[Brian Prangle]

Hi everyone

When will it be  appropriate to do a mechanical edit and remove the 47
instances of this store that can be seen in Overpass? Have they all closed
now?  My local one is now closed and leaving a large gap on its retail  park

Ditto Maplins

Regards

Brian
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Re: [Talk-it] Come inserire un CAAF

[Luca Delucchi]

Il ven 4 mag 2018, 17:32 demon.box  ha scritto:

> bene, la cosa mi interessa molto visto che in un CAF (CISL) ci lavoro
> ;-)
>
> mi viene però da porre una questione strettamente collegata che è quella
> delle sigle.
>
> CISL sta ovviamente per Confederazione Italiana Sindacati Lavoratori
>
> ora non tanto per il nodo relativo al CAF (dove metterò semplicemente CAF
> CISL) ma per il nodo relativo agli uffici della CISL in sè, meglio fare
> così?
>
> name=CISL
> official_name=Confederazione Italiana Sindacati Lavoratori
>
> oppure così come ho ho trovato utilizzato per situazioni analoghe?
>
> name=CISL - Confederazione Italiana Sindacati Lavoratori
>

Secondo me andrebbe utilizzato operator e con solo la dicitura estesa


>
> grazie, ciao
>
> --enrico
>

Ciao
Luca

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Re: [OSRM-talk] Snapping preferences

[Daniel Patterson]

Hi François,

  Currently, no - snapping for coordinates is strictly whichever is nearest
(with one exception:
https://blog.mapbox.com/robust-navigation-with-smart-nearest-neighbor-search-dbc1f6218be8
).

  I can think of two things:

1.  Try using the `/match` API.  This API snaps to *many* nearest
points (usually within 15m), and tries routes between all combinations, and
returns the most likely.  As long as your coordinates are reasonably close
(<2km), it should be almost usable as a replacement for the `/route` API.

2.  You can use the `/nearest` API to return more than one possible
snap point within range, then pick one, then request `/route` with the
snapped coordinates you have chosen.  This is only viable if `/nearest`
returns enough information for you to decide which snapping point is best.

daniel


On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 8:37 AM, François Lacombe 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm wondering if osrm can weight its snapping choices for start location ?
> Especially for footwalk mode.
>
> There are situations where farer ways can lead to shorter routes.
> Currently osrm always snap start location to nearest way but doesn't give
> me the shortest route according to my knowledge.
>
> Is there any trick in the profile to make some ways preferable to snap to?
> Should I open an issue regarding this?
>
> All the best
>
> *François Lacombe*
>
> fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com
> www.infos-reseaux.com
> @InfosReseaux 
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[OSRM-talk] Weird behaviour of Turn-restriction in OSRM

[Xavier Prudent]

Dear all,

This is my first project with OSRM and OSM.

I experience a very troubling behaviour of the turn restriction with osrm.

I edit an osm map and want to remove any possible u-turn or left turn.

If you look at this map, and look for the point #22

https://civiliagroupeconseil-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/personal/xprudent_civilia_ca/EXFdH132gY1Pk38xz54uN08BL87-xayY1WC7jLMTP9axHQ?e=UkCpL6

I give you here a zoom on the Rue Perras. You can see a u-turn is done on
this street by osrm

https://civiliagroupeconseil-my.sharepoint.com/:i:/g/personal/xprudent_civilia_ca/ETEmfFrTyIdGrWPwALg-jNMBLhFNB78b068x8ceNRqOw5g?e=YA8dOT

But the rue Perras in the JOSM editor forbids left turns, as shown here

https://civiliagroupeconseil-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/personal/xprudent_civilia_ca/Ef2rIh5MZ1VNnxrLxcTUkwgB1lJ0d_rTPcfBTH94I3BzCg?e=pd09Va

and adding u-turns don't change anything. That is troubling as this
procedure works on many intersections, but not for a couple of others ?!?

Here is the OSM map I edit

https://civiliagroupeconseil-my.sharepoint.com/:u:/g/personal/xprudent_civilia_ca/Ef2rIh5MZ1VNnxrLxcTUkwgB1lJ0d_rTPcfBTH94I3BzCg?e=StlweD

Being a newbie, I must have overlooked something important.

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

Xavier
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Re: [Talk-cz] Fwd: Fell3 strikes again

[majka]

Tak se opět přiznám - zase jsem na něj poslala DWG. Zatím s prosbou o další
domluvu s tím, že tady zase začíná ohledně něho debata, tak abychom měli
čas se na něčem shodnout. Už jsem si všimla, že ten zdroj se z něj taky
snaží vytáhnout. Třeba se zase na čas zklidní, i když osobně by mi
nevadilo, kdyby si nadále mapoval v Německu a tady to nechal být.

O stylu mapování by se s ním dalo diskutovat, ale ty jeho hlášky jsou v
kontextu téhle debaty za sto bodů:
"Es giebt noch sehr viel zu machen bei OSM, deshalb ist es besser, wenn du
neue Dinge einträgst, und nicht vorhandenes kaputt machst. Es kostet mich viel
Zeit alles wieder zu reparieren."
tedy
"U OSM je toho ještě spoustu třeba udělat, proto je lepší, když budeš
zadávat nové věci a nebudeš kazit existující (to, co už tam je). Zabere mi
spoustu času všechno zase opravit."

Majka

On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 17:59, Martin Valko  wrote:

> Mám taky jednu informaci do diskuze. Když jsem začínal mapovat, tak mi
> fell3 některé věci předělal. Protože jsem byl, ale nováčkem, místo abych
> se s ním dohadoval snažil jsem se z něj vytáhnou info. Proto vím, že
> fell využívá české ortofotomapy od čuzk. Sám mi onehdy radil jak si je
> do JOSM přidat. Část konverzace přeposílám níže:
>
>  On 2017-11-03 10:33:21 UTC fell3 wrote:
> >
> > |Hallo Tjamja, warum veränderst du von mir korrekt
> > eingezeichnete Flächen und Fußwege??? Zum Beispiel in Skrbeň.
> > Grasflächen werden nicht bis an die Gleise der Bahn
> > herangezeichnet, wenn das Gras in Wirklichkeit auch nicht bis
> > heran reicht!! Das Gleiche gilt bei Straßen genau so, wenn das
> > Gras nicht bis zur mitte der Straße reicht, dann wird es auch
> > nicht bis in die Mitte eingetragen!! Es giebt noch sehr viel
> > zu machen bei OSM, deshalb ist es besser, wenn du neue Dinge
> > einträgst, und nicht vorhandenes kaputt machst. Es kostet mich
> > viel Zeit alles wieder zu reparieren. Das vom open ID editor
> > verwendete Bing Luftbild ist nicht immer 100% richtig. Nutze
> > lieber JOSM, dort kannst du z.B. auch die Ortofotos von
> > geoportal.cuzk.cz als Hintergrund einstellen. Viele Grüße aus
> > der Oberlausitz Karsten Schiller |
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] Fwd: Fell3 strikes again

[Martin Valko]

Mám taky jednu informaci do diskuze. Když jsem začínal mapovat, tak mi
fell3 některé věci předělal. Protože jsem byl, ale nováčkem, místo abych
se s ním dohadoval snažil jsem se z něj vytáhnou info. Proto vím, že
fell využívá české ortofotomapy od čuzk. Sám mi onehdy radil jak si je
do JOSM přidat. Část konverzace přeposílám níže:

 On 2017-11-03 10:33:21 UTC fell3 wrote:
>
> |Hallo Tjamja, warum veränderst du von mir korrekt
> eingezeichnete Flächen und Fußwege??? Zum Beispiel in Skrbeň.
> Grasflächen werden nicht bis an die Gleise der Bahn
> herangezeichnet, wenn das Gras in Wirklichkeit auch nicht bis
> heran reicht!! Das Gleiche gilt bei Straßen genau so, wenn das
> Gras nicht bis zur mitte der Straße reicht, dann wird es auch
> nicht bis in die Mitte eingetragen!! Es giebt noch sehr viel
> zu machen bei OSM, deshalb ist es besser, wenn du neue Dinge
> einträgst, und nicht vorhandenes kaputt machst. Es kostet mich
> viel Zeit alles wieder zu reparieren. Das vom open ID editor
> verwendete Bing Luftbild ist nicht immer 100% richtig. Nutze
> lieber JOSM, dort kannst du z.B. auch die Ortofotos von
> geoportal.cuzk.cz als Hintergrund einstellen. Viele Grüße aus
> der Oberlausitz Karsten Schiller |


Valko Martin, PGP C6109CE6

Dne 4.5.2018 v 15:58 majka napsal(a):
> Jenže on domluvu nebere, ty pokusy už tu byly. Pro mě by stačilo, kdyby
> dnes nebylo 70 changesetů, z toho halda zhruba na jednom místě
> (Varnsdorf), ale jen jeden, a napsal tam co opravdu dělal. 
> 
> Podle čeho kreslí, to se jenom dohadujeme - to co uvádí v changesetech
> je většinou nesmysl, loni jsem z něj zkoušela dostat informace. 
> 
> Už zase jsem našla čerstvé změny, které jednoznačně neudělal ani podle
> gps, ani podle bingu, ani podle ničeho "legálního". Jedná se o patrně
> garáž za soukromým barákem, která z ulice viditelná není, na bingu taky
> ne, gps v zahradě za plotem taky neberu, takže zbývá nové Ortofoto
> mapy.cz , kde to při velkém přiblížení vidět je, včetně
> toho posunu co vytvořil. Pro upřesnění - zezadu to přístupné také není.
> 
> Kdyby toho netlačil v Čechách do dat tolik, mávnu nad tím rukou. Jenže
> těch změn už má za poslední dva měsíce zase zhruba tolik, co lidi
> využívající tracer k přetrasovávání a je v počtu změn 4. v ČR.
> 
> Majka
> 
> On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 15:21, Jan Macura  > wrote:
> 
> Ahoj konference,
> 
> narazil jsem na Fell3a cca úřed týdnem. Nejdřív jsem se zhrozil a
> chtěl jsem psát sem, protože těch editací bylo vážně hafo...
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58467514
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58136401
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58132393
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58431153
> ...
> 
> jenže kromě těch divnejch stříhání lesů, který sice vypadají
> vykreslený v OSM Carto šíleně, ale nejsou v zásadě špatně, dělal
> převážně pozitivní změny, kdy přidával cesty podle Bingu a GPS. A ty
> AFAIK odpovídají skutečnosti.
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-it] Cucina multietnica, tag?

[Andrea Albani]

Il ven 4 mag 2018, 11:23 liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu <
liste.gira...@posteo.eu> ha scritto:

> cuisine=international?
>

Cucina internazionale penso sia ciò che viene proposto in alcuni ristoranti
stellati.
Qui vedrei più un elenco dei tipi di cucine, quindi ad esempio

cuisine=chinese;vietnamese;pizza
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Re: [Talk-it] Come inserire un CAAF

[demon.box]

bene, la cosa mi interessa molto visto che in un CAF (CISL) ci lavoro ;-)

mi viene però da porre una questione strettamente collegata che è quella
delle sigle.

CISL sta ovviamente per Confederazione Italiana Sindacati Lavoratori

ora non tanto per il nodo relativo al CAF (dove metterò semplicemente CAF
CISL) ma per il nodo relativo agli uffici della CISL in sè, meglio fare
così?

name=CISL
official_name=Confederazione Italiana Sindacati Lavoratori

oppure così come ho ho trovato utilizzato per situazioni analoghe?

name=CISL - Confederazione Italiana Sindacati Lavoratori 

grazie, ciao

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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

[Lester Caine]

On 04/05/18 14:41, Steve Doerr wrote:

On 04/05/2018 12:52, Lester Caine wrote:

it's not helped when postoffice.co.uk don't list the independent post 
offices in there search results! According to them Broadway does not 
have a post office ;)


It comes up for me at Russell Square, Back Lane, Broadway, 
Worcestershire, WR12 7AP. I searched on that postcode. Or is there 
another Broadway?


OK is google that gets it wrong ;) 
https://www.google.com/search?q=post+office+near+me only shows the post 
office owned ones. But the information on the branch search - when you 
find it (needs the worcs) - is at odds with the times on the Budgen's 
website which I know are correct but the magic time one needs to know is 
5:15 as the latest time for collection today is not shown anywhere :) 
Only https://www.warnersbudgens.co.uk/post-offices/broadway.php shows 
the out of hours services ...


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Re: [Talk-cz] Fwd: Fell3 strikes again

[majka]

Jenže on domluvu nebere, ty pokusy už tu byly. Pro mě by stačilo, kdyby
dnes nebylo 70 changesetů, z toho halda zhruba na jednom místě (Varnsdorf),
ale jen jeden, a napsal tam co opravdu dělal.

Podle čeho kreslí, to se jenom dohadujeme - to co uvádí v changesetech je
většinou nesmysl, loni jsem z něj zkoušela dostat informace.

Už zase jsem našla čerstvé změny, které jednoznačně neudělal ani podle gps,
ani podle bingu, ani podle ničeho "legálního". Jedná se o patrně garáž za
soukromým barákem, která z ulice viditelná není, na bingu taky ne, gps v
zahradě za plotem taky neberu, takže zbývá nové Ortofoto mapy.cz, kde to
při velkém přiblížení vidět je, včetně toho posunu co vytvořil. Pro
upřesnění - zezadu to přístupné také není.

Kdyby toho netlačil v Čechách do dat tolik, mávnu nad tím rukou. Jenže těch
změn už má za poslední dva měsíce zase zhruba tolik, co lidi využívající
tracer k přetrasovávání a je v počtu změn 4. v ČR.

Majka

On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 15:21, Jan Macura  wrote:

> Ahoj konference,
>
> narazil jsem na Fell3a cca úřed týdnem. Nejdřív jsem se zhrozil a chtěl
> jsem psát sem, protože těch editací bylo vážně hafo...
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58467514
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58136401
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58132393
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58431153
> ...
>
> jenže kromě těch divnejch stříhání lesů, který sice vypadají vykreslený v
> OSM Carto šíleně, ale nejsou v zásadě špatně, dělal převážně pozitivní
> změny, kdy přidával cesty podle Bingu a GPS. A ty AFAIK odpovídají
> skutečnosti.
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

[Steve Doerr]

On 04/05/2018 12:52, Lester Caine wrote:

it's not helped when postoffice.co.uk don't list the independent post 
offices in there search results! According to them Broadway does not 
have a post office ;)


It comes up for me at Russell Square, Back Lane, Broadway, 
Worcestershire, WR12 7AP. I searched on that postcode. Or is there 
another Broadway?


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Re: [Talk-cz] Fwd: Fell3 strikes again

[Jan Macura]

Ahoj konference,

narazil jsem na Fell3a cca úřed týdnem. Nejdřív jsem se zhrozil a chtěl
jsem psát sem, protože těch editací bylo vážně hafo...
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58467514
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58136401
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58132393
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58431153
...

jenže kromě těch divnejch stříhání lesů, který sice vypadají vykreslený v
OSM Carto šíleně, ale nejsou v zásadě špatně, dělal převážně pozitivní
změny, kdy přidával cesty podle Bingu a GPS. A ty AFAIK odpovídají
skutečnosti.
Takže bych to neviděl tak černobíle. BANovat ho mi z "mého místa úhlu
pohledu" přijde přehnané. Ale vysvětlit mu rozdíl mezi přesností podkladů z
družicových snímků a mezi RÚIANem je jistě na místě.

H.

2018-05-04 10:09 GMT+02:00 Janda Martin :

> Jedine BAN, prave komentoval https://www.openstreetmap.org/
> changeset/58662140
>
>
>- Comment from JandaM  20
>minutes ago
>
>Dobry den, prestante editovat V CR. Vase upravy nici praci jinych.
>
>Mr. FELL 3, please STOP editing in Czech Republic. Your work is
>destroying work of others.
>- Comment from fell3  10
>minutes ago
>
>proč ???
>- Comment from fell3  1
>minute ago
>
>Miluji Československo, hodně tam cestuji.
>Mám spoustu stopových záznamů od mně, mých cyklistických přátel a
>pěšího klubu. Vždycky dělám největší úsilí, aby bylo vše co nejpřesnější.
>Je to dost, které bylo zaregistrováno opravdu špatně a nesprávně.
>Budu pokračovat! Na budoucí žízeň
>
>Srst
>- Comment from JandaM  1
>minute ago
>
>Budovy posouvate (1.25m) i mimo pozice pozemku. Menite pudorys. V
>jinych upravach budovu dokonce bezduvodne zvetsite. Bing mapy nelze
>pouzivat jako podklady pro presne mapovani. Jsou posunute a nelze je
>spravne zarovnat. Myslim ze lepsi bude kdyz svou pozornost soustredite
>napr. na Nemecko a prestante poskozovat praci druhych. Jiz minuly rok byl
>resen problem s vasimi edity.
>
>
> --
> *From: *"majka" 
> *To: *talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
> *Sent: *Friday, May 4, 2018 9:51:46 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-cz] Fell3 strikes again
>
> Prosím tedy všechny, kteří na něj narazí o ty komentáře k jeho změnám. Už
> na komentáře k jeho sadám mám nastavené hlídání, takže pak budu překládat.
> Chce to okomentovat problematické změny, ideálně z několika míst, já to
> přeložím, a možná současně navážu na loňskou debatu s DWG s prosbou, ať ho
> opět zatím usměrní, než dodebatujeme tady.
> Ale opravdu to chce širší podporu, ať to nevypadá jen na moji válku s ním.
> Ne, že by mě neštval - narazila jsem na jeho akce na Jindřichohradecku, kam
> se příští týden chystám, a práce tam přidělal víc než dost. Jen to všechno
> bylo už staré.
>
> Majka
>
> On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 09:45, Janda Martin  wrote:
>
>> Dekuji,
>>
>>   jsem pro BAN tez. Nasel jsem dalsi mista. Zmapovane budovy z RUAIN
>> posune i na jiny pozemek a zmeni obrys. Pacha vic skody nez uzitku. Snazim
>> se aby CR byla co nejvic zmapovana a pokud mozno to sedelo bez prekryvu a
>> podle nejpresnejsich a nejdostupnejsich dat RUIAN a LPIS.
>>
>>   Martin
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"majka" 
>> *To: *talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
>> *Sent: *Friday, May 4, 2018 9:40:26 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-cz] Fell3 strikes again
>>
>> Obávám se, že diplomaticky usměrnit nepůjde. Posledně po tom mém zásahu
>> přestal přidávat, ale v březnu se zase rozjel a už zase ho máme na 4. místě
>> editorů.
>> Pište mu prosím na ty jeho změny komentáře - klidně česky, a posílejte mi
>> to - budu mu to překládat do němčiny a doplňovat to k tomu.
>>
>> Osobně bych ho už nechala zabanovat pro ČR, protože debata s ním není
>> žádná. Jen to chce pár komentářů na jeho změnách, protože bez toho se blbě
>> jedná. Ale chce to rychlou akci, protože jinak s tím zase bude spousta
>> práce.
>>
>> Majka
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 09:33, Janda Martin  wrote:
>>
>>> Dobry den,
>>>
>>>   omlouvam se ale mam pripominky ke zmenam stareho znameho uzivatele
>>> FELL3. Provedl jsem nahodnou kontrolu jeho posledni cinnosti a objevil jsem
>>> ne prilis prinosne editace ve Starych splavech u Machova jezera.
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58662069. Ostatni jsem ani
>>> nekotroloval.
>>>
>>> Soucasti editace je zmena pudorysu domu a jeho posunuti o 1.25m coz
>>> nesouhlasi s RUAN. Pouziva BING mapy a posouva neketre objekty misto toho
>>> aby se alespon pokusil BING zarovnat podle podkladu. Predpokladam ze jeho
>>> ostatni editace budou podobne kvalitni. Prosim muze ho nekdo opet
>>> diplomaticky usmernit.
>>>
>>>   Dekuji
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> PS veskere pravopisne chyby a preklepy 

Re: [OSM-ja] 高速道路の定義について(まとめページ)

[Ras and Road]

Ras and Road です。

hayashiさん、早速の回答ありがとうございます。

motorwayの定義を変更することによる影響は事実とのこと、承知しました。


あまのさんの4/24質問に対するhayashiさんの4/24投稿は見つけられませんでしたので、
4/29の投稿を元にhayashiさんの主張について理解を深めてみました。

交通教則では、道路には自動車専用道路とそうでない道路があって、その通行の仕方について説明しているとのこと。
交通教則上は「高速道路」という表現のはず※ですが、主旨は理解しました。
交通教則は「道路交通法」の施行に関連する国家公安委員会告示でして、道路交通の視点では一般道よりも高速道路のほうが道路品質が高く、また、それ以上の規定がないのはそのとおりでしょう。
※「高速道路とは、高速自動車国道と自動車専用道路をいいます。」と書かれています（はずです）。


道路網の整備について定めた「道路法」の体系を元にした意見とすれ違うのは当然ですね。（噛み合わない理由がようやく理解できました）

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Re: [Talk-it] Come inserire un CAAF

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

mi sembra che si utilizzano entrambe le diciture (a Roma trovi solitamente
scritto "CAF").

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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

[Philip Withnall]

On Fri, 2018-05-04 at 12:52 +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
> On 04/05/18 12:28, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
> > Or do people think we should use amenity=post_office for them with
> > some other tagging used to differentiate things? If we did want to
> > use
> > other tagging to differentiate, then operator=* wouldn't work, as
> > most
> > Post Office branches are run by third parties. network=* or brand=*
> > could do, but it would be complicated to use either on objects
> > which
> > are tagged with both amenity=post_office and e.g. shop=convenience,
> > since we wouldn't know which part the tags were referring to.
> 
> Our local post office is now situated in a local supermarket while
> the 
> main postbox is still located outside it's previous home. Post
> Office 
> hours are shorter than the opening for the shop although some
> services 
> are available full time which adds to the fun tagging it. In
> addition 
> two other local shops are drop-off points for other other carriers
> with 
> one also a collection point for held deliveries. The published
> details 
> for some of these service points is already wrong but trying to add
> a 
> comprehensive set of tags covering everything is I think wishfull 
> thinking? Especially when the shop handles several courier services? 
> This is an area where secondary databases should be linked to
> provide 
> the fine detail and just a generic tag with an ID to access that
> data. 
> Trying to map all the secondary data is silly, but it's not helped
> when 
> postoffice.co.uk don't list the independent post offices in there
> search 
> results! According to them Broadway does not have a post office ;)

In these situations I’d probably add a separate amenity=post_office
node *inside* the shop area. Then both the shop and the post office can
have separate tagging for their opening hours, operator, network, etc.

Philip

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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

[Lester Caine]

On 04/05/18 12:28, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:

Or do people think we should use amenity=post_office for them with
some other tagging used to differentiate things? If we did want to use
other tagging to differentiate, then operator=* wouldn't work, as most
Post Office branches are run by third parties. network=* or brand=*
could do, but it would be complicated to use either on objects which
are tagged with both amenity=post_office and e.g. shop=convenience,
since we wouldn't know which part the tags were referring to.


Our local post office is now situated in a local supermarket while the 
main postbox is still located outside it's previous home. Post Office 
hours are shorter than the opening for the shop although some services 
are available full time which adds to the fun tagging it. In addition 
two other local shops are drop-off points for other other carriers with 
one also a collection point for held deliveries. The published details 
for some of these service points is already wrong but trying to add a 
comprehensive set of tags covering everything is I think wishfull 
thinking? Especially when the shop handles several courier services? 
This is an area where secondary databases should be linked to provide 
the fine detail and just a generic tag with an ID to access that data. 
Trying to map all the secondary data is silly, but it's not helped when 
postoffice.co.uk don't list the independent post offices in there search 
results! According to them Broadway does not have a post office ;)


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Re: [Talk-it] Come inserire un CAF

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2018-05-04 9:54 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :

> On 4. May 2018, at 09:33, claudio duchi  wrote:
>


> Quale è il modo migliore inserire un CAF cioè un centro assistenza fiscale
> che non necessariamente coincide con un Sindacato
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5589059326
>
>


ho modificato il tagging, che ne dite della versione nuova?

Segnalo anche per chi non lo conoscessi questo servizi ottimo per
verificare gli orari:
http://openingh.openstreetmap.de/evaluation_tool/

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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On 3 May 2018 at 11:25, SK53  wrote:
> Can we please avoid changing the meaning of post office by extending it to
> courier offices, and restrict it to those places which offer not only a full
> service mail offering (aka Universal Postal Service), but the traditional
> other services available at post offices (some banking, government forms,
> etc). Extending the meaning of the tag would make OSM data immediately
> intrinsically less useful in cities where courier offices exist. Such a
> change would a) require every post office to be suitably tagged with an
> indication of which service it belongs to; and b) require every data
> consumer to change.

I agree that this would make sense for the UK, but I'm worried it
might be seen as re-defining the amenity=post_office tag as it's used
internationally. The wiki page at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpost_office
currently defines it as "A post office. A place where letters and
parcels may be sent or collected." Arguably public offices of courier
companies fit this definition. In the UK though "Post Office" has a
specific meaning, and it would certainly make life easier for the UK
to tag these courier firms differently.

There are a handful of instances of each of amenity=courier,
shop=courier and office=courier, without any one having a significant
majority: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=courier#values .
Does anyone else have any ideas or preferences for possible taggings
for non-Post-Office-Ltd courier firms, if we were to go down that
route?

Or do people think we should use amenity=post_office for them with
some other tagging used to differentiate things? If we did want to use
other tagging to differentiate, then operator=* wouldn't work, as most
Post Office branches are run by third parties. network=* or brand=*
could do, but it would be complicated to use either on objects which
are tagged with both amenity=post_office and e.g. shop=convenience,
since we wouldn't know which part the tags were referring to.

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-it] dataset MISE distributori

[Francesco Pelullo]

Il ven 4 mag 2018, 11:36 Cascafico Giovanni  ha
scritto:

>
> Agganciando gli id impianto della tabella del MISE "prezzi alle 8 di
> mattina" [1] è possibile assegnare anche i tag fuel:diesel e fuel:lpg, ma
> non saprei che tag assegnare ai 1238 distributori di metano: che sia  il
> "compressed natural gas (fuel:cng)?
>


Esatto.

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Re: [Talk-it] dataset MISE distributori

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Il giorno 17 aprile 2018 14:49, Cascafico Giovanni  ha
scritto:

> E' con malcelata invidia che applaudo Andrea, ora meglio noto come Gran
> Visir delle regexp :-) Mi son permesso di contare le linee generate dai due
> comandi e vien fuori che 10960 sono "indirizzabili", contro le 9940
> incasinate.
> Credo che al primo aggiornamento post-import ci metteremo pure gli addr!
>

Agganciando gli id impianto della tabella del MISE "prezzi alle 8 di
mattina" [1] è possibile assegnare anche i tag fuel:diesel e fuel:lpg, ma
non saprei che tag assegnare ai 1238 distributori di metano: che sia  il
"compressed natural gas (fuel:cng)?

[1] http://www.sviluppoeconomico.gov.it/images/exportCSV/prezzo_alle_8.csv
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[Talk-it] Cucina multietnica, tag?

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

ho un ristorante che dichiara cucina multietnica, però non capisco il 
tag adatto, forse cuisine=international?

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Re: [Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu

[majka]

On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 11:09, Marián Kyral  wrote:

> Nebyl zrovna nejšťastnější nápad otevřít si ten gpx na osmap.cz :-D
>
V mobilu mám soubor celý, jen zobrazení filtruji na nejbližších cca 5 km
(umí jak Locus, tak i Osmand).
Než jsem to ale zjistila, rozsekávala jsem tenhle soubor na okolí ČB, okolí
Plzně  - zkrátka tam kde se pohybuji častěji.

Dobrý nápad to celé zobrazit jinak není ani v mobilu - poměrně spolehlivě
to shodí apku, v horším případě restartuje mobil.
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Re: [Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu

[Marián Kyral]

-- Původní e-mail --
Od: majka 
Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 4. 5. 2018 10:50:27
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu
"
Koukám, že zmizel odkaz na celý soubor(https://goo.gl/b9Jwoy) 
"



Díky.


Nebyl zrovna nejšťastnější nápad otevřít si ten gpx na osmap.cz :-D












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Re: [Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu

[majka]

Koukám, že zmizel odkaz na celý soubor 
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Re: [Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu

[majka]

On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 10:37, Marián Kyral  wrote:

> Můžeš sem hodit kousek toho gpx pro inspiraci?
>
> Tady je komplet, pro inspiraci stačí takto:


http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/;
xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1; xmlns:xsi="
http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; xsi:schemaLocation="
http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1 http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/gpx.xsd
">


  10003:19
  Donovalská /31, Chodov, 14900, Praha



  10003:207
  U krčské vodárny 116/16, Krč, 14000, Praha


...



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Re: [Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu

[Marián Kyral]

-- Původní e-mail --
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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 4. 5. 2018 9:25:20
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"




On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 07:32, Marián Kyral  wrote:

"
Ahoj,
a jak by jste si představovali ten gpx soubor? Co by v něm mělo být? K čemu
konkrétně jej chceš použít?

"



Osobně ho používám - mám v něm prostě souřadnice schránek, které chybí v OSM
(ještě doplněné o ty, co tam jsou, ale mají tag fixme), a v description ten
popis pošty. Používám pro vypíchnutí míst, kam je třeba fyzicky dojít a
podívat se na aktuální stav.




"



Můžeš sem hodit kousek toho gpx pro inspiraci?




Díky,

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Btw, this is already possible - Wikipedia servers let you access both
images and raw vector tiles, so if someone wants to do the client part, it
shouldn't be too hard.

On Fri, May 4, 2018, 11:11 Yuri Astrakhan  wrote:

> In reality, it is not impossible, or even that hard. If the vector tile is
> sent to the client, than the client can decide which language to render
> based on user preference.  The exact same code (it's all in JavaScript) can
> be used to decide the labeling. Caching would only improve, because instead
> of caching multiple raster tiles, it would only cache a single vector tile.
>
>  Mapbox.gl or open layers can both do this fairly efficiently.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018, 10:54 Mateusz Konieczny 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> 4. May 2018 07:36 by md...@xs4all.nl:
>>
>> On 2018-05-04 00:33, Joe Matazzoni wrote:
>>
>> No fallback is currently defined for Polish. We’ll be happy to
>> change that if you can show community consensus.
>>
>>
>> Community consensus? You mean a bunch of people who decide for the whole
>> country (many of them have no idea of the mechanisms behind it) what the
>> strategy is?
>> I'm sorry to say, but that can not be consensus. This needs to be able to
>> be configured at user level.
>>
>>
>> Server resources are not infinite, separate map cache for every user
>> would be probably unfeasible.
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Re: [Talk-it] Come inserire un CAAF

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

On 04/05/18 09:33, claudio duchi wrote:

Quale è il modo migliore inserire un CAF cioè un centro assistenza fiscale
che non necessariamente coincide con un Sindacato
Grazie
Claudio


Discussione interessante, ma mi permetto solo di modificare il titolo.

:)


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

[Yuri Astrakhan]

In reality, it is not impossible, or even that hard. If the vector tile is
sent to the client, than the client can decide which language to render
based on user preference.  The exact same code (it's all in JavaScript) can
be used to decide the labeling. Caching would only improve, because instead
of caching multiple raster tiles, it would only cache a single vector tile.

 Mapbox.gl or open layers can both do this fairly efficiently.



On Fri, May 4, 2018, 10:54 Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

>
>
>
> 4. May 2018 07:36 by md...@xs4all.nl:
>
> On 2018-05-04 00:33, Joe Matazzoni wrote:
>
> No fallback is currently defined for Polish. We’ll be happy to
> change that if you can show community consensus.
>
>
> Community consensus? You mean a bunch of people who decide for the whole
> country (many of them have no idea of the mechanisms behind it) what the
> strategy is?
> I'm sorry to say, but that can not be consensus. This needs to be able to
> be configured at user level.
>
>
> Server resources are not infinite, separate map cache for every user would
> be probably unfeasible.
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

[Mateusz Konieczny]

3. May 2018 22:49 by jmatazz...@wikimedia.org :


> I’d very much like to get your suggestions for a short list of Help links on 
> OSM—pages you think a user coming in to add multilingual names would find 
> useful. Also please send your thoughts about any information you think I 
> particularly should impart. 
>




1) Don't be afraid to ask (though, as usually, checking 


standards tutorials before doing that is a good idea) - 


see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Get_help 


for example of list of help pages/forums.




2) Note that OSM is stricter on copyright that Wikipedia or Wikidata.




It is OK to copy from any printed map or Google maps - it is even 


encouraged in Wikipedia[1] and it is utterly unacceptable in OSM[2].




It applies also to data that were copied from copyrighted databases into

Wikidata (some went through Wikipedias).





[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Obtaining_geographic_coordinates 



[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Copyright#Proprietary_data 


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Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On 3 May 2018 at 18:57, David Woolley  wrote:
> On 03/05/18 17:53, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
>>
>> I would use a node where the van stops, tagged with
> amenity="post_office", name="Over Mobile Post Office Service",
>
> That seems to break the name is only the name rule.

The official name of the branch according to Post Office Ltd. is "Over
Mobile Service". But none of their branch names include the text "Post
Office"; most are just the place or street name, so it seems
reasonable to me to add "Post Office" to form the full name.

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-it] Come inserire un CAF

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 4. May 2018, at 09:33, claudio duchi  wrote:
> 
> Quale è il modo migliore inserire un CAF cioè un centro assistenza fiscale 
> che non necessariamente coincide con un Sindacato


lunedì all’ultimo micro mapping party Roma abbiamo messo 
office=financial_assistance per un CAF, ma ripensandoci non è un bel tag perché 
significa un’azienda dà assistenza ai dipendenti per comprarsi azioni 
dell’azienda (oppure nel caso di financial_aid un stato che aiuta).

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5589059326

Comunque un tag specifico si vuole (un CAF non è la stessa cosa di un 
commercialista)

Cosa facciamo? office=tax_declaration_aid ? Forse potremmo farlo diventare un 
amenity, visto che svolgono un servizio pubblico? Oppure una social_facility?
office/amenity=fiscal_assistance? 

Quest’ultimo mi sembra comprensibile e non troppo lungo. Bisognerebbe inserire 
una bella definizione specifica nella wiki (come proposta)


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[Talk-at] Lizenzen bei Daten von Gemeinden

[Stefan K.]

Hallo,

im Forum geht es gerade bzgl. Lizenzen etwas her:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=61870=4
Konkret geht es eigentlich um folgenden Post:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=697584#p697584

Ich persönlich verstehe das ja seitens Gemeinde als Hinweis, dass dort  
die Daten verfügbar sind, allerdings nicht explizit als Erlaubnis zur  
Verwendung, eben auch nicht unter welcher Lizenz.


wiki the map macht offensichtlich viel bzgl. Adresseinbindung, was gut  
ist, aber die rechtlichen Dinge gehören eben auch beachtet. Und im  
restlichen Thread wurde erfolglos versucht das zu erklären -  
vielleicht kann das jemand von der Mailingliste besser erklären oder  
sagen, dass das so eh schon passt :)


Wenn hier auf der Mailingliste geantwortet wird, wird das sicher auch  
seinen Weg ins Forum finden.


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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

[Mateusz Konieczny]

4. May 2018 07:36 by md...@xs4all.nl :


> On 2018-05-04 00:33, Joe Matazzoni wrote:
>> No fallback is currently defined for Polish. We’ll be happy to
>> change that if you can show community consensus.
>
> Community consensus? You mean a bunch of people who decide for the whole 
> country (many of them have no idea of the mechanisms behind it) what the 
> strategy is?
> I'm sorry to say, but that can not be consensus. This needs to be able to be 
> configured at user level.
>




Server resources are not infinite, separate map cache for every user would be 
probably unfeasible.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Fell3 strikes again

[majka]

Prosím tedy všechny, kteří na něj narazí o ty komentáře k jeho změnám. Už
na komentáře k jeho sadám mám nastavené hlídání, takže pak budu překládat.
Chce to okomentovat problematické změny, ideálně z několika míst, já to
přeložím, a možná současně navážu na loňskou debatu s DWG s prosbou, ať ho
opět zatím usměrní, než dodebatujeme tady.

Ale opravdu to chce širší podporu, ať to nevypadá jen na moji válku s ním.
Ne, že by mě neštval - narazila jsem na jeho akce na Jindřichohradecku, kam
se příští týden chystám, a práce tam přidělal víc než dost. Jen to všechno
bylo už staré.

Majka

On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 09:45, Janda Martin  wrote:

> Dekuji,
>
>   jsem pro BAN tez. Nasel jsem dalsi mista. Zmapovane budovy z RUAIN
> posune i na jiny pozemek a zmeni obrys. Pacha vic skody nez uzitku. Snazim
> se aby CR byla co nejvic zmapovana a pokud mozno to sedelo bez prekryvu a
> podle nejpresnejsich a nejdostupnejsich dat RUIAN a LPIS.
>
>   Martin
>
> --
> *From: *"majka" 
> *To: *talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
> *Sent: *Friday, May 4, 2018 9:40:26 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-cz] Fell3 strikes again
>
> Obávám se, že diplomaticky usměrnit nepůjde. Posledně po tom mém zásahu
> přestal přidávat, ale v březnu se zase rozjel a už zase ho máme na 4. místě
> editorů.
> Pište mu prosím na ty jeho změny komentáře - klidně česky, a posílejte mi
> to - budu mu to překládat do němčiny a doplňovat to k tomu.
>
> Osobně bych ho už nechala zabanovat pro ČR, protože debata s ním není
> žádná. Jen to chce pár komentářů na jeho změnách, protože bez toho se blbě
> jedná. Ale chce to rychlou akci, protože jinak s tím zase bude spousta
> práce.
>
> Majka
>
>
> On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 09:33, Janda Martin  wrote:
>
>> Dobry den,
>>
>>   omlouvam se ale mam pripominky ke zmenam stareho znameho uzivatele
>> FELL3. Provedl jsem nahodnou kontrolu jeho posledni cinnosti a objevil jsem
>> ne prilis prinosne editace ve Starych splavech u Machova jezera.
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58662069. Ostatni jsem ani
>> nekotroloval.
>>
>> Soucasti editace je zmena pudorysu domu a jeho posunuti o 1.25m coz
>> nesouhlasi s RUAN. Pouziva BING mapy a posouva neketre objekty misto toho
>> aby se alespon pokusil BING zarovnat podle podkladu. Predpokladam ze jeho
>> ostatni editace budou podobne kvalitni. Prosim muze ho nekdo opet
>> diplomaticky usmernit.
>>
>>   Dekuji
>> Martin
>>
>> PS veskere pravopisne chyby a preklepy jsou ciste zamerne.
>>
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Re: [Talk-cz] Fell3 strikes again

[Janda Martin]

Dekuji, 

jsem pro BAN tez. Nasel jsem dalsi mista. Zmapovane budovy z RUAIN posune i na 
jiny pozemek a zmeni obrys. Pacha vic skody nez uzitku. Snazim se aby CR byla 
co nejvic zmapovana a pokud mozno to sedelo bez prekryvu a podle nejpresnejsich 
a nejdostupnejsich dat RUIAN a LPIS. 

Martin 


From: "majka"  
To: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 9:40:26 AM 
Subject: Re: [Talk-cz] Fell3 strikes again 

Obávám se, že diplomaticky usměrnit nepůjde. Posledně po tom mém zásahu přestal 
přidávat, ale v březnu se zase rozjel a už zase ho máme na 4. místě editorů. 
Pište mu prosím na ty jeho změny komentáře - klidně česky, a posílejte mi to - 
budu mu to překládat do němčiny a doplňovat to k tomu. 

Osobně bych ho už nechala zabanovat pro ČR, protože debata s ním není žádná. 
Jen to chce pár komentářů na jeho změnách, protože bez toho se blbě jedná. Ale 
chce to rychlou akci, protože jinak s tím zase bude spousta práce. 

Majka 


On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 09:33, Janda Martin < jan...@crcdata.cz > wrote: 


Dobry den, 

omlouvam se ale mam pripominky ke zmenam stareho znameho uzivatele FELL3. 
Provedl jsem nahodnou kontrolu jeho posledni cinnosti a objevil jsem ne prilis 
prinosne editace ve Starych splavech u Machova jezera. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58662069 . Ostatni jsem ani 
nekotroloval. 

Soucasti editace je zmena pudorysu domu a jeho posunuti o 1.25m coz nesouhlasi 
s RUAN. Pouziva BING mapy a posouva neketre objekty misto toho aby se alespon 
pokusil BING zarovnat podle podkladu. Predpokladam ze jeho ostatni editace 
budou podobne kvalitni. Prosim muze ho nekdo opet diplomaticky usmernit. 

Dekuji 
Martin 

PS veskere pravopisne chyby a preklepy jsou ciste zamerne. 

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Re: [Talk-cz] Fell3 strikes again

[majka]

Obávám se, že diplomaticky usměrnit nepůjde. Posledně po tom mém zásahu
přestal přidávat, ale v březnu se zase rozjel a už zase ho máme na 4. místě
editorů.

Pište mu prosím na ty jeho změny komentáře - klidně česky, a posílejte mi
to - budu mu to překládat do němčiny a doplňovat to k tomu.

Osobně bych ho už nechala zabanovat pro ČR, protože debata s ním není
žádná. Jen to chce pár komentářů na jeho změnách, protože bez toho se blbě
jedná. Ale chce to rychlou akci, protože jinak s tím zase bude spousta
práce.

Majka


On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 09:33, Janda Martin  wrote:

> Dobry den,
>
>   omlouvam se ale mam pripominky ke zmenam stareho znameho uzivatele
> FELL3. Provedl jsem nahodnou kontrolu jeho posledni cinnosti a objevil jsem
> ne prilis prinosne editace ve Starych splavech u Machova jezera.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58662069. Ostatni jsem ani
> nekotroloval.
>
> Soucasti editace je zmena pudorysu domu a jeho posunuti o 1.25m coz
> nesouhlasi s RUAN. Pouziva BING mapy a posouva neketre objekty misto toho
> aby se alespon pokusil BING zarovnat podle podkladu. Predpokladam ze jeho
> ostatni editace budou podobne kvalitni. Prosim muze ho nekdo opet
> diplomaticky usmernit.
>
>   Dekuji
> Martin
>
> PS veskere pravopisne chyby a preklepy jsou ciste zamerne.
>
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[Talk-it] Come inserire un CAF

[claudio duchi]

Quale è il modo migliore inserire un CAF cioè un centro assistenza fiscale
che non necessariamente coincide con un Sindacato
Grazie
Claudio
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[Talk-cz] Fell3 strikes again

[Janda Martin]

Dobry den,

  omlouvam se ale mam pripominky ke zmenam stareho znameho uzivatele FELL3. 
Provedl jsem nahodnou kontrolu jeho posledni cinnosti a objevil jsem ne prilis 
prinosne editace ve Starych splavech u Machova jezera. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58662069. Ostatni jsem ani nekotroloval.

Soucasti editace je zmena pudorysu domu a jeho posunuti o 1.25m coz nesouhlasi 
s RUAN. Pouziva BING mapy a posouva neketre objekty misto toho aby se alespon 
pokusil BING zarovnat podle podkladu. Predpokladam ze jeho ostatni editace 
budou podobne kvalitni. Prosim muze ho nekdo opet diplomaticky usmernit.

  Dekuji
Martin

PS veskere pravopisne chyby a preklepy jsou ciste zamerne.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Poštovní schránky - import do telefonu

[majka]

On Fri, 4 May 2018 at 07:32, Marián Kyral  wrote:

> Ahoj,
> a jak by jste si představovali ten gpx soubor? Co by v něm mělo být? K
> čemu konkrétně jej chceš použít?
>

Osobně ho používám - mám v něm prostě souřadnice schránek, které chybí v
OSM (ještě doplněné o ty, co tam jsou, ale mají tag fixme), a v description
ten popis pošty. Používám pro vypíchnutí míst, kam je třeba fyzicky dojít a
podívat se na aktuální stav.

Pro 80-90% chybějících schránek to není nutné, dají se dohledat od stolu
podle Streetview nebo Panoramy, ale pořád ještě zůstává ten zbytek, kam se
opravdu musí. Jen ten gpx soubor mám podle stavu někdy z února.

Otvírám to v mapě v mobilu společně s keškami a chybějícími rozcestníky :)
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Daniel, sure, I can give you the full scoop. Considering that I designed
and developed most of it, I do have some knowledge here. Big kudos to Max
Semenik for developing all the initial data queries and php work, all the
amazing UI done by Julien Girault, and the current maps engineering team
for a lot of good recent work, especially the multilingual support.

Summary:
* OSM data is imported a postgres DB with osm2pgsql (initially used default
schema, now migrating to ClearTables)
* Tilerator (Kartohterian's tile generation manager) is used to generate
vector tiles from SQL queries. One of the SQL output fields is a
JSON-formatted value with all the available languages  --  {"en":'"...,"
"fr":"...", ...}.  Mapnik creates vector tiles from the SQL output, and
babel decodes them, expands languages into multiple fields, and
recompresses them. Tilerator then stores them into Cassandra database
(WMF), but you could use any other storage, e.g. postgress or mbtiles.  So
as the result, tilerator's pipeline produces vector tiles with all
available languages.  No rendering is done yet.   Tilerator generates just
the  z0..z14.  My guesstimate is ~300GB, but these numbers could have
changed. Sadly, tiles tiles are not as optimized as what Open Map Tiles
produce, hence slightly oversized.
* When user requests a tile in a given language, vector tile is loaded from
storage, modified on the fly by using babel - unpacks the tile and this
time choose just one language. The tile is repacked and passed to mapnik
for rendering. The resulting tile is not stored on disk, but it does get
cached by Varnish.

So as you can see, there is nearly no difference between one language and
unlimited number of languages with this approach - except for the slightly
slower generation and rendering, and bigger cache fragmentation.  See
various Kartotherian repos in github for more information.


-- Yuri  / @nyuriks

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 4:14 AM Daniel Koć  wrote:

> W dniu 04.05.2018 o 02:30, Yuri Astrakhan pisze:
> > Daniel, the only real difference between serving every available
> > language and serving just one is cache fragmentation, and that's may
> > be different in your case.
>
> Sure, but you're talking about just one link of the chain. The WMF
> vector tiles are produced from a database, rasterized somewhere down the
> line, then probably written on the disk, served, cached etc, so it's not
> that simple.
>
> That's why I ask about the bottom line in this specific case. There are
> many factors which will be different (like how complex the style is, for
> example), but it's good to estimate the order of magnitude at least. But
> all the details are also interesting to me.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and new Wikipedia map features

[Jo]

Japanese has 3 writing systems.

Jo

2018-05-04 1:10 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć :

> W dniu 04.05.2018 o 00:33, Joe Matazzoni pisze:
>
> Here is the list of languages Wikimedia supports. https://en.
> wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix
> 
>  .
> As to the toolchain, if you ask that question on the project page, some of
> our engineers will be able to respond.  Be sure to explain why you’re
> asking, so we can answer you fully.
>
>
> It's not exactly what interests me:
>
> a) do you want to support all these languages (not how many of them are
> there)?
>
> b) how many server resources do you need for rendering  languages that
> you want to support (not the software stack used)?
>
> Do you know it or should I ask the engineers anyway?
>
> That is a very interesting edge case we hadn’t thought of.  We’ll have to
> look into that one; our lead engineer just wrote a ticket to investigate:
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193815
> .
>  I know about Serbian. What other languages do this?
>
>
> Belorusian has two writing systems (see http://openstreetmap.by for 4
> languages demo).
>
> Chineese has few different writing systems.
>
> Buginese can use Lontara or Latin script.
>
>
> There might be more of such cases.
>
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Re: [Talk-it] State of the map 2018 - biglietti early bird - lista degli interventi - serata social

[Federico Cortese]

Ottimo, grazie per le news.

Ciao,
Federico

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Re: [Talk-in] Missing al5-boundaries in India

[Naveen Francis]

Hello,

The first step for the project would be to find how many districts are
already mapped.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Districts_in_India

Overpass query will give us districts relations. (It is placed in above
page)
We can break down them to state list.
Then will be able to find the gap.
After that, we can try to get data from the different source.

Please add district relations to state-specific lists.

Example:-
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Districts_in_Andhra_Pradesh
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Districts_in_Kerala

Thanks,
naveenpf

On 24 April 2018 at 20:01, Jinal Foflia  wrote:

> Hello Walter,
>
> Thanks so much for bringing this to our notice, the Indian Community is on
> it!
>
> Cheers,
> Jinal Foflia
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 7:02 PM, F11PES NARDANI 
> wrote:
>
>> I had a list of boundary node co ordinates but misplaced do you have one?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Walter Nordmann 
>> *Sent: *28 February 2018 20:02
>> *To: *talk-in@openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject: *[Talk-in] Missing al5-boundaries in India
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just found some gaps in the admin boundaries level 5 in India.
>>
>> https://wambachers-osm.website/images/osm/snaps_2018/india_al5.png
>>
>> where you see a blue background there is no al5 or may be it's damaged.
>>
>> could you please help and fix that gaps in your country?
>>
>> regards
>>
>> walter aka wambacher
>>
>> attached: list of all al5 found in OSM
>>
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