Re: [OSM-talk] Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

Yuri, I did not find a way to open an issue about the bot (https://github.com/Sophox/sophox/tree/metabot/metabot is a branch, so any issues would appear to be about Sophox). Is there an appropriate place to request changes, besides Talk:Date_items? - Joseph Eisenberg On 2/19/20, Mateusz

[Talk-TW] Open Data Day Taiwan 2020

Hi All 今年 2020 年 Open Data Day 與 Wikidata Taiwan 社群合作，一起在 3/7 弄一整天 Workshop 活動，手把手教 OpenStreetMap 與 Wikidata 的編輯，這次活動的重點放在山峰與河流資料，除了連結 OpenStreetMap 與 Wikidata 兩者資料庫之外，也要各自增加內容。 Facebook 活動連結：https://www.facebook.com/events/2590412931201007/ KKtick

Re: [Talk-TW] 删除“ WikiProject”前缀 / Removing "WikiProject" prefix

Go ahead Daniel I think it is ok. Supaplex On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 5:22 PM Daniel Capilla wrote: > 自动贩卖机： > > 你好 > > 我是来自西班牙的Daniel。我想更改维基的名称 > 与台湾测绘项目有关的页面，以删除“ Wikiproject” > 根据页面名称约定[1]作为前缀。 > > 与台湾制图项目相关的页面的名称应为 > 建议使用“ Taiwan”（地名）代替“ Wikiproject Taiwan” > 根据Wiki约定。这是我已经做出的改变 >

Re: [Talk-TW] 恩瑋機場？

你好： 這是 Mapbox 出的包，類似紐約市被改成猶太城一樣的狀況， 請去找 Mapbox 反映 問題編輯早已經改掉好多年了 Supaplex On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:05 PM u30 om1 wrote: > 松山機場旁 https://i.imgur.com/8URhKyh.png > ___ > Talk-TW mailing list > Talk-TW@openstreetmap.org >

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

As Martin (@ dieterdreist) mentioned above, even 200 pixels is plenty of space for the 15 character long "© Openstreetmap": that gives you 12 pixels per character width. For example, our rendering of "Upper Hutchinson"... (field) in Chicago is only 81 x 12 pixels for 16 characters at 10 point

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

19 Feb 2020, 13:14 by o...@imagico.de: > Anyway - while i am not surprised about this it is sobering how little > of the feedback provided in previous conversation - in particular from: > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-August/thread.html#83068 > > has found a substantial

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

19 Feb 2020, 21:05 by si...@poole.ch: > > > > Am 19.02.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk: > >> 19 Feb 2020, 17:22 by >> dieterdre...@gmail.com>> : >> >>> But I stick to the comment that 500px are far too many (=1000 >>> actual retina pixels or 1500 px on a

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Vandalisme utilisateur "PARIS SUD", le retour

PS: merci à thomas et Jean-Pierre aussi, ainsi qu'à Noémie d'avoir créé le challenge! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

On 19/02/2020 12:14, Christoph Hormann wrote: I am therfore reluctant to newly review the document in detail because it seems a waste of effort. Don't bother then. No one will miss it. -- Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

sent from a phone >> On 19. Feb 2020, at 21:10, Simon Poole wrote: >  > > > Am 19.02.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk: >> 19 Feb 2020, 17:22 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: >> But I stick to the comment that 500px are far too many (=1000 actual retina >> pixels or 1500 px on a

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Am 19.02.2020 um 20:17 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk: > 19 Feb 2020, 17:22 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > But I stick to the comment that 500px are far too many (=1000 > actual retina pixels or 1500 px on a retina@3).  > > Yes, you may easily fit at least "© OSM" > with link in such

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tagguer un restaurant avec buffet à volonté

Note: "à volonté" dans plein de restos ne concerne pas tous les produits, souvent ce n'est que le buffet de hors d’œuvres, les accompagnements de légumes, la salade, mais pas pour le plat principal servi à l'assiette, les fromages et desserts (la quantité est limitée à l'assiette proposée), ni les

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Vandalisme utilisateur "PARIS SUD", le retour

Un très très grand merci, Jean-Yvon! Je suis en train d'apprendre (douloureusement) OverPass, pour pouvoir me passer de la "base de données" locale de bouches que j'avais construite et pouvoir ainsi bénéficier de ton travail. Sébastien. ___ Talk-fr

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Vandalisme utilisateur "PARIS SUD", le retour

Fait (avec Jean-Pierre et Thomas). Je suis essentiellement passé là où j'étais déjà passé : c'est très pénible. J'ai demandé à Guillaume un blocage par IP. Il voit avec les admin pour qu'ils regardent les logs. Je n'ai pas regardé les changesets dans leur ensemble mais ajouté le stop_area si

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

19 Feb 2020, 17:22 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > But I stick to the comment that 500px are far too many (=1000 actual retina > pixels or 1500 px on a retina@3).  > Yes, you may easily fit at least "© OSM" with link in such space. Suggesting that real attribution is  not required in such case is

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

For the sake of the discussion about 'small map' size, a mockup on the wiki would certainly help. The 500dpi and 25% size seems quite big to me, there's room for (c) Openstreetmap there. Yves Cainaud ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [HS]Les bories, historic ou amenity

Le 19/02/2020 à 13:19, Arnaud Champollion a écrit : Il y a d'autres bories[…] Un peu comme le mas qui n'est pas un mât, a prononcer Borieu… -- -- Dominique Marin http://txodom.free.fr -- «Aux raisons de l'amour que les fous te proposent Au

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Parking réservé aux bus touristiques

Le 19/02/2020 à 16:44, marc marc a écrit : Bonjour, Le 19.02.20 à 16:35, Vincent Bergeot a écrit : il y a souvent des parkings réservés aux bus aux seuls bus ou aux seuls bus touristique ? je vais poser la question de la signalétique effectivement mais cela doit être bus, je pense

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Parking réservé aux bus touristiques

Si on parle des parkings des aires d'autoroute, ce sont surtout des parkings pour tous véhicules longs (car, bus, camions, véhicules avec caravane ou remorque), généralement en épi entre deux allées; le parking peut éventuellement être utilisé aussi par les autres véhicules mais sont un peu plus

[OSM-talk-fr] Erreur lors de l'installation du plugin scripting dans JOSM

Bonjour, Je viens d'essayer d'installer plugin scripting dans JOSM, mais j'obtiens cette erreur: 020-02-19 17:43:29.949 GRAVE: org.openstreetmap.josm.plugins.PluginDownloadException: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: sun.security.validator.ValidatorException: PKIX path building failed:

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Bypasses

Update on the N20/M20 upgrades published today: https://corklimerick.ie/scheme-update/ On Fri, 31 Jan 2020, 13:48 Donal Hunt, wrote: > Latest update on the Colloney-Castlebaldwin (N4) is available here > (got > uploaded

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

I believe there is actually a small issue with the definition here, as there are two conflicting DIP definitions in use (one pixel on mobile devices ~160 DPI vs one pixel for CSS 96 DPI), we need to state what we are using. Simon Am 19.02.2020 um 17:22 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > sent from

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag panneau zone vidéo surveillance ?

Attention : le panneau CE9, avait une ancienne version qui désignait une aire d'embarquement de trains auto-couchettes (un service qui n'existe plus semble-t-il à la SNCF, qui sépare le train+auto, où le véhicule est acheminé séparément, du service voyageurs par les lignes normales, sans

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

sent from a phone > Il giorno 19 feb 2020, alle ore 16:37, Michal Migurski ha > scritto: > > For our purposes, this is a better definition because it’s defined in terms > of what a viewer can see rather than its implementation in hardware. contrary to what I had written above I agree that

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

sent from a phone > As pointed out in the guideline text, the difference is not only screen size, > but how you interact with the device. Try clicking on your average watch. > watches are kind of an exception because of their really small screen, but they are already perfectly covered by

Re: [Talk-us] Tagging "Junior College" or "Community College"?

I've been using amenity=college for those. They fit the meaning of "further education" to me, and I didn't see the need for yet another category. -jack -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto spell technology. On February 17, 2020 10:20:56 PM EST, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >How are people tagging

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Vandalisme utilisateur "PARIS SUD", le retour

https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id=5884520561#map=20/48.81035/2.36201 Tu vas pouvoir regarder de près : il a indiqué 5 sorties, il y en a deux. Sans doute des positions modifiées dues à des travaux (à l'ouest). Ou une distinction entrée/sortie (à l'est)

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Parking réservé aux bus touristiques

Bonjour, Le 19.02.20 à 16:35, Vincent Bergeot a écrit : > il y a souvent des parkings réservés aux bus aux seuls bus ou aux seuls bus touristique ? amenity=parking ou amenity=parking_space (selon que tu veux renseigner que tout le parking est réservé, ou une partie de celui-ci) access=no

[OSM-talk-fr] Parking réservé aux bus touristiques

Bonjour, dans les communes touristique, il y a souvent des parkings réservés aux bus. Le seul tag que je trouve est https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtourist_bus_parking utilisé 16 fois selon taginfo. Je n'ai pas trouvé d'autres "manières" de faire, amenity=parking_space

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

> On Feb 19, 2020, at 5:29 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I am not sure what "device-independent pixels" means. Is this about points > (i.e. physical, hardware screen pixels divided by the scale)? IMHO we should > require actual, physical pixels, because it is them who determine whether

Re: [OSM-talk] Deletion of wiki page contributions Was Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

Joseph, If you were talking of fast food restaurants, I would understand that we expect to see these in hundred of countries.  But there are features that yes are not seen as intensively. One fast food POI counts for one. One 500km route counts also for one. This Overpass query shows that the

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Am 19.02.2020 um 15:59 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > .. > Imho we should not differentiate between mobile and desktop devices: > either there is sufficient space and attribution should be permanent, > or there isn’t and it is ok you have to click somewhere to see it. The > constraints/conditions

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

There is a difference (a very big one), between saying "if you do X we believe you are fulfilling the requirements of the licence" and saying "you need to do Y to make us happy, even if it doesn't have any founding in the licence". And that has nothing to do with winning court cases, but all with

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

sent from a phone > Il giorno 19 feb 2020, alle ore 15:17, Simon Poole ha > scritto: > >  > Am 19.02.2020 um 14:40 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg: >>> IMHO attribution should always be required 1. on the map 2. in high >>> contrast >> Agreed. >> The main problem is that mobile devices, which

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

If the map says "Copyright BoxMap, imagery copyright IRSE" in bold in the right corner, but the Openstreetmap notice is hidden behind a tiny "i" or ony shown briefly on app startup (which only happens after your phone crashes or the app updates), then this gives the impression that the data is

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Am 19.02.2020 um 15:02 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > > In my mind I always ask the question: How essential was OSM for what is > being done? How much of your hike remains if you remove OSM from the > picture? How much of a trained AI remains if you remove OSM from the > picture? Assuming "essential"

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Am 19.02.2020 um 14:40 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg: >> IMHO attribution should always be required 1. on the map 2. in high contrast > Agreed. > > The main problem is that mobile devices, which are by far the most > common ways of accessing maps around the world, are only required to > provide

[OSM-talk] Deletion of wiki page contributions Was Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

Joseph, you deleted recently the link I added to the Map_features wiki page for snowmobile routes.  It seems you dont like such schema and want to impose your views here. Snowmobiles routes are as common as bike or hiking trails in nordic countries. And the snowmobile wiki page describes it.

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Hi, On 19.02.20 14:38, Simon Poole wrote: > As a thought experiment consider planning a trip around your fav place > boundary with OSM,  going for the walk with an OSM based map in your > hand so that you stay on course, and then writing a a blog post about > your experience. For the purpose of

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Données sur les bouches de métro franciliennes

Ça me va. Mais le wiki (en français et anglais) ne correspond pas à cette version puisqu'il précise que le nom doit contenir "sortie n°X". https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:railway%3Dsubway_entrance Est ce que tu le mets à jour ? Thomas Le lun. 17 févr. 2020 à 17:11, a écrit : > Si je

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

> IMHO attribution should always be required 1. on the map 2. in high contrast Agreed. The main problem is that mobile devices, which are by far the most common ways of accessing maps around the world, are only required to provide attribution after a click or swipe, or even just on app startup

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Am 19.02.2020 um 13:50 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > ... > I acknowledge Kathleen Lu's recent remark about the ODbL being very > clear on a derived product having to "contain" OSM in some way which > would not be the case here; but I think this calls for working on ODbL > 1.1 to rectify the issue,

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Am Mi., 19. Feb. 2020 um 13:53 Uhr schrieb Frederik Ramm < frede...@remote.org>: > > Not to mention the most blatant attempts at sneaking corporate wishlist > > items into the guideline are all still there - like the 1 m^2 map > > area limit that has been conjured out of thin air > > True,

[Talk-de] Einladung zum OSM Hackweekend in Toulouse

Hallo, wir machen ja nun schon seit einigen Jahren (seit 2012 um genau zu sein) Hackweekends bei uns in Karlsruhe. Für diejenigen, die da noch nie dabei waren: Es ist "immer das gleiche". Wir treffen uns schon am Freitag Abend in der Kneipe, Samstag und Sonntag wird dann im Geofabrik-Büro

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

On Wednesday 19 February 2020, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > * "Except for small maps or multiple data sources, as described > below, attribution must be visible without requiring the user to > click on an icon or similar interaction." - Your critique focuses on > the exceptions, but saying clearly

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tagguer un restaurant avec buffet à volonté

Je n'avais pas vu ce tag "all_you_can_eat", qui répond parfaitement à ma demande. Merci. Francescu Le mer. 19 févr. 2020 à 13:59, Eric Brosselin - Osm a écrit : > Bonjour, > > * Le 19/02/2020 à 11:30, marc marc a écrit :* > > *Bonjour,** > Le 19.02.20 à 10:57, Francescu GAROBY a écrit : > * >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tagguer un restaurant avec buffet à volonté

Bonjour,/ Le 19/02/2020 à 11:30, marc marc a écrit :/ /Bonjour,/ /Le 19.02.20 à 10:57, Francescu GAROBY a écrit : / /La question est dans le titre : comment taggueriez-vous (si tant est que cela se taggue) un restaurant qui propose un buffet à volonté ? / /il y a eu une discussion un peu

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

Hi, On 19.02.20 13:14, Christoph Hormann wrote: > the document then almost exclusively presents > supposed exceptions from the attribution requirement of the ODbL. I've just read the document for the first time this morning, so I don't have the context of prior discussions and I think your

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Les bories, historic ou amenity

Le 18/02/2020 à 09:37, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : C'est un compromis acceptable. Voilà la modif est faite sur la commune de Cornillon. Il y a d'autres bories ailleurs dans la région, plus ou moins bien taggués (parfois un simple node avec name=borie) mais je n'y ai pas

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

On Wednesday 19 February 2020, Simon Poole wrote: > > The updated document can be found here > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Attribution_Guideline I appreciate the draft document being available on the wiki - although the lack of an edit history makes this fairly pointless for the

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Vandalisme utilisateur "PARIS SUD", le retour

Hello, voici un nouveau challenge MapRoulette pour se partager le boulot et passer en revue les bouches de métro "vandalisées" : https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/12646 N'hésitez pas à jeter un oeil à tout le changeset par la même occasion, ça sera en plus potentiellement l'occasion

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tagguer un restaurant avec buffet à volonté

Bonjour, Le 19.02.20 à 10:57, Francescu GAROBY a écrit : > La question est dans le titre : comment taggueriez-vous (si tant est que > cela se taggue) un restaurant qui propose un buffet à volonté ? il y a eu une discussion un peu semblable sur tagging à propos de l'eau le mot refill en est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag panneau zone vidéo surveillance ?

Bonjour, Le 19.02.20 à 02:31, Eda a écrit : > camera:signed=yes ou camera:signed=no qu'apporte ce nouveau tag par rapport à ceux existant ? parce que c'est bien là le soucis actuel : chaque objet a une façon logique différente d'etre renseignée ce qui par exemple nécessite à chaque fois des

[OSM-talk-fr] Tagguer un restaurant avec buffet à volonté

Bonjour, La question est dans le titre : comment taggueriez-vous (si tant est que cela se taggue) un restaurant qui propose un buffet à volonté ? N'ayant rien trouvé sur le wiki (mais j'ai peut-être mal cherché), je serais tenté de proposer d'ajouter le tag suivant : * at_will="yes/no/only" ("no"

Re: [OSM-talk] Web editors and lane rendering

Paul Johnson wrote: > Could we get some lane editing/rendering in these editors > to cut down on this kind of unintentionally erratic mapping? Sure, you're welcome to open a friendly issue at https://github.com/systemed/potlatch2/issues listing the base case for what you think is required. > >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag panneau zone vidéo surveillance ?

A propos de vidéosurveillance, il existe le panneau officiel français CE9 "parc de stationnement sous vidéosurveillance". Si un jour je le croise, je le prendrai en photo, mais je ne l'ai encore jamais vu. Marc Mongenet ___ Talk-fr mailing list

[OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

The LWG has now integrated feedback from the initial airing in August last year, from a total of three sessions at SOTM-US and SOTM in Heidelberg, feedback from the OSMF board and from the wider OSM community. Barring any major late developing issues, we intend to forward this to the OSMF board

Re: [OSM-talk] IME no proposals needed | Re: Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

> I have occasionally moved such pages into the user's name space when I found them to (by content, if not by name) to be proposals for something, rather than a documentation of something already established. That is fine if the tag has not been used, and the page is written like a proposal

Re: [OSM-talk] IME no proposals needed | Re: Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

Hi, On 19.02.20 07:33, Rory McCann wrote: > I don't know what your experience with the OSM wiki is, but I've created > new wiki pages for new tags, without bothering with proposal pages. I have occasionally moved such pages into the user's name space when I found them to (by content, if not by