Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-28 Thread Simon Poole
Hi Tobias That sounds better. The main question is what "expect it to survive a hypothetical license change" implies. My expectation is that because of practical considerations any future licence would require downstream attribution of OSM so that the OSMF can continue to offer third party

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 29.11.2022 um 03:57 schrieb Minh Nguyen: Vào lúc 15:48 2022-11-28, Tobias Knerr đã viết: On 28.11.22 at Simon Poole wrote: What is "OSM Contributor Terms compatibility" supposed to be? Ok, this is clearly imprecise wording.¹ The context is that we would like to offer data donors a

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-28 Thread john whelan
I have concerns about the amount of effort we seem to be asking open data set creators to make. I think it took me seven years to get the licensing correct to be able to import the local bus stops and very early in the process the head of the transit system said 'but we want you to use our data.'

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-28 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào lúc 15:48 2022-11-28, Tobias Knerr đã viết: On 28.11.22 at Simon Poole wrote: What is "OSM Contributor Terms compatibility" supposed to be? Ok, this is clearly imprecise wording.¹ The context is that we would like to offer data donors a standard legal text that they can use to make

[talk-au] power=edge_server

2022-11-28 Thread Nev W
No response has been received from mapper 设计在先 regarding permission from the data set owners to add power=edge_server nodes to osm. Changeset comments, a personal message and a data block have been used to try to discuss with the mapper to no avail, therefore I have removed power=edge_server

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-28 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 28.11.22 at Simon Poole wrote: What is "OSM Contributor Terms compatibility" supposed to be? Ok, this is clearly imprecise wording.¹ The context is that we would like to offer data donors a standard legal text that they can use to make their data available to OSM in such a way that we

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-28 Thread Simon Poole
Am 28.11.2022 um 20:11 schrieb Amanda McCann: Hello fellow OSMers. As you are no doubt aware, OSM requires that data imports be listed on the OSM Wiki ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue ), including if the source is “ODbL OK status”. At the Nov. 2022 OSMF Board meeting

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread David Haberthür
>> I'll be curious to hear feedback from this, too. Thanks for your efforts, >> Lukas: I genuinely hope they help our map! > > I can see a use when you have three consecutive segments of a road, where the > first and the last are named (the same) and the middle is not. This might > indicate

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread Lukas Toggenburger via talk
I am a bit unsure on how to proceed from here... Maybe let's start with some technical facts: > IMHO a highway=service, track etc typically do not have names. > Hopefully you account for that. > And i am not shure the assumption that other road classes > always have names holds up. In the

[OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-28 Thread Amanda McCann
Hello fellow OSMers. As you are no doubt aware, OSM requires that data imports be listed on the OSM Wiki ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue ), including if the source is “ODbL OK status”. At the Nov. 2022 OSMF Board meeting (25 Nov), the Board voted that imports should,

Re: [Talk-it-lazio] Incontro dei mappatori romani e laziali - 14 dicembre 2022

2022-11-28 Thread Alessandro Frigeri
Molto bene Flaminia, ai piedi della fontana, lato sud! al 14 dicembre alle 19.30 allora. Alessandro Il giorno lun 28 nov 2022 alle ore 13:01 Flaminia Tumino < flaminiatum...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Ciao a tutt*, > ultimo appuntamento del 2022 per un mapping party :) > Appuntamento a Monti ai

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
> I can't really think what the Osmose people (in this example) could do to > make people > NOT blindly make changes in this way > Add ability to ban accounts from using Osmose? And use it to ban people misusing it? In theory there can be also some sort of fake elements clearly labelled as

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 09:16:14PM +0100, Lukas Toggenburger via talk wrote: > Hi all > > As you might know, OSM data contains a lot of highway=* without > name=*. Check your region using the following query: > IMHO a highway=service, track etc typically do not have names. Hopefully you account

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread stevea
On Nov 28, 2022, at 5:57 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > Your remark seems reasonable ;) Thanks, Maarten, I’m chuckling with mirthful laughter here. > Thing is: this is not meant as a bot, so the usual caveats apply. That IS an important consideration; thanks for highlighting that aspect. I didn’t

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/11/2022 13:57, Maarten Deen wrote: What the user wielding the QA tool does with that is his choice. Indeed, but as we've seen in lots of places users sometimes blindly follow "suggestions" without engaging their brains. As an example, Osmose contains very clear information that users

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread Maarten Deen
Your remark seems reasonable ;) Thing is: this is not meant as a bot, so the usual caveats apply. It just serves as a highlight of "something might be wrong here", like so many QA tools do. What the user wielding the QA tool does with that is his choice. Does he automatically correct it? Wrong

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread stevea
See, saying “seems reasonable” actually seems reasonable, until one realizes one doesn’t truly know. Ask yourself if others in OSM would agree if “seems reasonable” is good enough to meet OSM’s criteria for data entry: you’ll get mixed answers, though a sizable number will say “not really

Re: [Talk-it-lazio] Incontro dei mappatori romani e laziali - 14 dicembre 2022

2022-11-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
grazie Flaminia, io ci sarò... ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio

[Talk-it-lazio] Incontro dei mappatori romani e laziali - 14 dicembre 2022

2022-11-28 Thread Flaminia Tumino
Ciao a tutt*, ultimo appuntamento del 2022 per un mapping party :) Appuntamento a Monti ai piedi della fontana in piazzetta alle 19.30 https://osmcal.org/event/1741/ A presto Flaminia ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread Marc_marc
Le 28.11.22 à 00:43, Dave F via talk a écrit : a "high confidence" interpolation, from an armchair or anywhere, will lead to inaccurate data being added to the OSM database. if you have a road in 3 segments A B C and A+C have the ssame name, then not only does it seem reasonable to me to add

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-28 Thread Lukas Toggenburger via talk
Hi all Thank you for your feedback so far. > I can see a use when you have three consecutive segments > of a road, where the first and the last are named (the same) > and the middle is not. This might indicate an omission. This is what I do. See