Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch update and tiger cleanup tools

2008-05-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: The new feature in 0.9 that I don’t think is quite right is the ability to easily drag a way. In my experience it will be done in error 99 times out of 100. If that mistake is done by someone who doesn’t notice or who don’t know about undo then the data is damaged.

[OSM-talk] Potlatch 0.9a

2008-05-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, I didn't post about 0.9 here but naturally some of you have discovered the changes already... so here's a belated 0.9a update. First of all, as already noted, you can now drag whole ways. So that you don't accidentally drag them, as of 0.9a, you need to click, _hold_ for a very

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 0.9a

2008-05-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Axel von Matern wrote: Just got an issue with the new feature. Its really dangerous to be able to shift whole ways that easy. That should be fixed in 0.9a - it's more reluctant to move ways than 0.9 was. What happens is I accidently moved a large lake and then polatch bugged out due to

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: On Tue, 13 May 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: This is an example of confusing the physical space with the legal administrative description. Yes, but sadly the highway tag is defined in Map Features to encompass that confusing mixture of physical and legal

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: I'm left wondering why they haven't removed the A-road designation if they put bollards in... Anyway, I'm going a bit off topic now. :) We had a thread about it on talk-gb which I think concluded it would have been better designated as the WTF420. horse=yes seems as

Re: [OSM-talk] difference between waterway=canal and waterway=drain

2008-05-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) wrote: Both are created by man. A canal is normally navigable and a drain is not. A canal is for carrying goods and people, a drain is for transporting water much like a river but the drain has been dug by man rather than nature. Indeed. Sometimes drains,

Re: [OSM-talk] Notability (was openstreetmap)

2008-05-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nic Roets wrote: If someone made the effort to physically survey it and properly tag it, I think it's OK. Maintainability is probably a bigger issue than notability. Roads, railways and canals don't move much, rivers hardly at all - we can cope with maintaining that sort of database. But

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Voting open for Bridge proposal

2008-05-19 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: Both of these things can be true of normal bridges, and there are various tags and additional icons which can be used in those cases. My question is: why does a viaduct need a different rendering *just because it's a viaduct*? I've not seen generalist maps which

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Rights of way (was: Vote: highway=path)

2008-05-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
OJ W wrote: A path with horse,foot,cycle=yes still isn't a bridleway though (e.g. on a bridleway, cycles are permitted but the surface doesn't have to be suitable for cycling - a situation more complex than just cycle=yes). The legal bridleway has more attributes than just who is allowed to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM support in KDE's Marble

2008-05-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Inge Wallin wrote: 2. Marble is fully plugin-based, so anybody who knows some C++, can create a simple editor á la potlatch. Absolutely - those 7000 lines of code just write themselves. It's kind of the next step after Hello world. (That said, the Marble screenshots look lovely - nice

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in the today's Financial Times

2008-05-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Here, here: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/30c9d66a-279b-11dd-b7cb-77b07658.html?nclick_check=1 And there are some quotes on yesterday's: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/83390706-2753-11dd-b7cb-77b07658.html?nclick_check=1 Could someone perhaps post them here? I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in the today's Financial Times

2008-05-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: You can also get access if you register (free). I had the same issue and registered, which is basically just an email address so they can spam you ;-) Ah, ok. Thanks for the transcripts and links, all. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[cc:ed to legal-talk] Andy Allan wrote: That's pretty clear cut - i-Cubed own copyright over the imagery, and haven't given anyone any rights to do stuff with them - unless they explicitly say otherwise. Public Domain isn't viral for derived works. Probably the biggest thing I've learned

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Openaerial map from Potlatch

2008-05-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: Aren't OSM's GPS traces considered CC-BY-SA as well? I haven't seen anything specifically licensing them, but they are in the OSM database, accessible via the OSM API so I err on the side of assuming the CC-BY-SA licence applies to them too. They're not explicitly licensed

Re: [OSM-talk] Filtering GPX tracks when they're good enough to make ways from but contain too many points

2008-05-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stefan Baebler wrote: Simplify way in JOSM does it (lowermost icon on the left toolbar, if memory serves me well). Similarly, if you load the track directly into Potlatch (by clicking on 'edit' in the 'GPS Traces' page), you can then click the 'Track' button to convert it directly into a

Re: [OSM-talk] National borders in the British Islands

2008-05-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
elvin ibbotson wrote: I for one do not want to have to be flicking backwards and forwards between wiki pages looking up the correct tagging convention when I am trying to edit the map. I much prefer simply choosing from the options Potlatch or JOSM present to me. Unfortunately, all to

Re: [OSM-talk] I big jump in new users and user activity.

2008-06-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: mandatory slashdot joke I, for one, welcome our new german overlords. /mandatory slashdot joke Though we can only 100% definitively prove that the new arrivals are Germans if the number of complaints about Potlatch triples, too. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] I big jump in new users and user activity.

2008-06-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: Later I had a situation where Potlatch continually complained that I wasn't logged in while the screen still showed my user name in the top right corner - session expiry perhaps? Were you using the same login on two machines? Potlatch uses the same token as the rest of

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch localisation

2008-06-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jochen Topf wrote: On a related note: I created the current openstreetmap.de website which lacks edit support. Does it make sense to integrate Potlatch into that web page? Would it be hard to do? Sounds really good. There are three potential issues, I think. One is that Potlatch calls its

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch localisation

2008-06-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Thanks all for the offers of help! Really encouraging. I'll spend a bit of time bringing the text together and will create a wiki page for it. We can then maintain the translations through svn. More soon, hopefully. cheers Richard ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] noname streets

2008-06-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Dave Stubbs wrote: The good point about name=__none__ is that I can bet large amounts of money that no street is actually named __none__ -- the bad points are that renderers that don't know about it are going to write it in the street name So maybe named=no (or unnamed=yes)? cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] noname streets

2008-06-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Alex Mauer wrote: That said, I still doubt the utility of a no name meta-value. No conscientious mapper should be putting in roads with no name if they have a name Wuh? That statement is just... wrong. Really, really flabbergastingly wrong. I cycled 420 miles recently, to do the Pennine

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] noname streets

2008-06-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Alex Mauer wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: That statement is just... wrong. Really, really flabbergastingly wrong. Well, it's my opinion. You're going to have to revisit the route anyway to find out the road names, so why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone? It's not you're going

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTP Server Error (500) when using JOSM

2008-06-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Eduardo Habkost wrote: relation id=14680 visible=true timestamp=2008-05-27T00:36:30 +01:00 user=Eduardo Habkost member type=node ref=0 role=/ [...] It looks like it is the ref=0 node above. I will try to upload the relation without the bogus node. Anyone who's really bored could do worse

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype

2008-06-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frank Sautter wrote: i agree with you! my idea of how this should be rendered is: grade1: just like highway=service [...] It's worth noting that tracktype is not a universally welcome tag - a lot of people think having an arbitrary scale isn't very OSM-like, and that it's better to tag

Re: [OSM-talk] two highways use the same way

2008-06-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rory McCann wrote: Personally I think it'd be good to tag the road as primary *and* secondary, i.e. that we should have 'highway=primary;secondary'. This makes it possible to see how many km of secondary roads there are in an area, or to highlight only road 172. I'm slightly bemused how a

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steven Le Roux wrote: d'un point de vue strictement technique, il faut reconnaitre que l'approche de map maker est meilleure que potlatch qui lui n'est pas utilisable sur une machine légere sous linux. (merci flash) Mais si vous detestez Flash, OpenStreetMap a un API, alors vous pouvez

Re: [OSM-talk] Relation/Routes and Hikes in open Country

2008-06-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Allan wrote: I'd define it slightly differently - its do we want *subjective* routes in OSM? I don't think anyone is arguing that notable *objective* routes, like the Pennine Way in the UK or the Appalachian Way in the US can certainly be included as a route. (...or the entire National

[OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, We've put together a press release with OSM (strictly speaking OSMF)'s reaction to Google Map Maker. You can get it in PDF or RTF format at: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/misc/pr_material/releases/ The OSMF board is sending it to a few of the big tech blogs, but in true OSM fashion,

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: I know that dealing with the press requires a certain amount of dumbing down, but I do object to the phrase: Volunteers for OpenStreetMap, the Wikipedia-like website which is mapping the world, say ... We are not a website. Sure. It depends who you're sending the

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nic Roets wrote: We're bigger than them in this space, so why give them free publicity ? Again, it depends on the media, I think. It's very plausible that Big Media will want to report on Google Map Maker - Google is sexy in news terms right now; there seems to be a story about them

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Map Maker - press release

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John McKerrell wrote: One thing I'd say about the release is we might want to mention non-UK places too, it mentions Brighton and pubs of England. There's the wikiguide of Paris too isn't there which might be worth a mention? Good point - feel free to localise. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] License change? (was Re: Google Map Maker - press release)

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Simon Huggins wrote: they can all use our data in any way they like Did we do the sane thing and relicense under a BSD style license whilst I wasn't looking? :) For the avoidance of 9873454567 following mails, could I please point out that a mass-market press release is not meant

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: The completeness of OpenStreetMap

2008-06-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Edward Johnson wrote: This looks like quite a good system and at least it breaks it down into which categories are complete and which not. This system though relies on users verifying whether an area is complete. I would really like it if we could have a model/algorithm that could

[OSM-talk] TeleAtlas/Google deal

2008-06-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
From http://apb.directionsmag.com/archives/4449-Tele-AtlasGoogle-Deal-TA-Gets-User-Generated-Markups.html : MONDAY, JUNE 30. 2008 Tele Atlas/Google Deal: TA Gets User Generated Markups Update 2:It's not exclusive: TeleAtlas already has an agreement with Google for which details aren't

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:highway=cycleway inconsistency

2008-07-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Allan wrote: I found a bit in Hyde Park where there was a one-way road with cycle lanes on both sides - with all three lanes going in the same direction - and I don't know how to model that in OSM either. My experience from a year of cycle-commuting through Hyde Park is that

Re: [OSM-talk] Misclassified roads

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: However, after starting to do this, I've realised just how many of the roads are misclassified - I'd estimate that well over 80% of the roads tagged as highway=unclassified are, infact, not unclassified roads. That 80% figure surprises me, a lot. Most roads _should_ be

Re: [OSM-talk] Misclassified roads

2008-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: You misunderstand the problem - the problem isn't that the classification on OSM doesn't match the official classification. The problem is that until highway=road was approved, there was no classification for it's a road but I can't remember what type, so people have used

[OSM-talk] Potlatch in Gnash - not far off?

2008-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Good news from the Gnash developers: Begin forwarded message: From: Sandro Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11 July 2008 13:17:18 BDT Subject: [bug #21756] Potlatch OpenStreetMap editor displays heavily offset Follow-up Comment #21, bug #21756 (project gnash): Since you got distracted by

Re: [OSM-talk] Pubs on mapnik layer - can we remove them?

2008-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote: lol, I agree with your colleagues: those pint glasses are unacceptably bad taste Someone should tell the Ordnance Survey - they have them all over their Explorer maps... cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Misclassified roads

2008-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Er, I've driven past that one a handful of times (some friends used to live in Pontardawe) and if it's the road I'm thinking of - down towards the KFC - it _is_ unclassified. Well, either that or tertiary; It can't

Re: [OSM-talk] Misclassified roads

2008-07-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: If you don't go by the definitions in Map Features, what definitions do you go by? As far as you are concerned, what is the difference between an unclassified and a tertiary? If we don't have some agreed definition, the tags become meaningless since the meaning will vary

Re: [OSM-talk] suggestion for SOTM09

2008-07-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Daniel Glassey wrote: fwiw location-wise I would prefer somewhere more easily and cheaply accessible by most people that would like to come than I expect GC would be. Being a bit of a tree-hugger at heart, I'd prefer somewhere in mainland Europe easily accessible by train. cheers Richard

[OSM-talk] Potlatch 0.10

2008-07-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, Really pleased to announce Potlatch 0.10 - hopefully something for everyone. If you're a map editor, the biggest change is that tagged nodes in ways are now indicated with a little black circle - so you can see traffic lights, mini-roundabouts, railway stations, gates etc. etc. If

Re: [OSM-talk] NPE waterways

2008-07-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[snip] On a slight etiquettey note I'd suggest that using the messaging system, rather than public lists, is a really great way to get in contact with people about their mapping work. Steve Chilton wrote: Finally, it is my view that source=NPE is implicitly tagging for review. +1

Re: [OSM-talk] NPE waterways

2008-07-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: Something that would be very useful in Potlatch would be the ability to have the background zoom beyond it's highest resolution and just get interpolated to fit - the yahoo images are virtually unusable in Wales and over-zooming them might make them a bit more useful. This

Re: [OSM-talk] NPE waterways

2008-07-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Barnett, Phillip wrote: From my local knowledge of some parts of Wales, I'd agree strongly that NPE names are _frequently_ incorrect compared with modern labelling of towns/villages and other features, and are hence Not To Be Trusted Though if you understand something about Welsh

Re: [OSM-talk] NPE waterways

2008-07-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: * the changes cover a reasonably large area and thus a large number of editors are affected and may wish to contribute to the discussion. * though with NPE the reasonably large area is pretty clearly going to be talk-gb, not talk :p Seriously, it wasn't solely directed at

Re: [OSM-talk] Mouse over function for POIs in Potlatch?

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jukka Rahkonen wrote: It would be nice to have a mouse over function in Potlatch editor at least for point features. Is it possible? Now you must click on each POI in order to see what it stands for and this is both slow and leads to unintentional edits. One of those things I've been

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: If you label all three ways with name=Foo Street, you get Foo Street rendered 3 times along a fairly short length, at least in Osmarender. If you leave the name off the outer ends, then those ways are incorrectly assumed to be unnamed streets when they have a name. In

Re: [OSM-talk] Names, split streets and relations

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gervase Markham wrote: If you label all three ways with name=Foo Street, you get Foo Street rendered 3 times along a fairly short length, at least in Osmarender. If you leave the name off the outer ends, then those ways are incorrectly assumed to be unnamed streets when they have a name. In

Re: [OSM-talk] Actually using OpenStreetMap and the usability of the current maps

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Inge Wallin wrote: * Distinctions between roads. In opposition to the case for names, there are too many roads on the large scale maps. Here is what the current map looks like around my home city: http://www.openstreetmap.com/?lat=58.33lon=15.408zoom=10layers=0B0FTF There is too little

Re: [OSM-talk] Milestone

2008-07-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Steve, you and everyone else whose worked hard on the cartography aspects of the Mapnik layer deserve a big pat on the back. But your note clearly demonstrates that we really should not have the Mapnik stylesheet maintained and managed by one or

Re: [OSM-talk] Why OpenStreetMap is not Wikipedia

2008-07-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Lars Aronsson wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote about OSM vs. Wikipedia: Wikipedia does not collect raw data, it collects/creates an end product. This description of Wikipedia is wrong. It's not, because... It would be better for Wikipedia if more readers went to other mirror websites ...is

Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Dave Stubbs wrote: Because unless something has changed recently this isn't how potlatch works -- if you drag around nodes then potlatch still touches the way. So if the person used Potlatch you /would/ see a way edit. I just had a quick look at the code and it looks to me that it still

Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap POI details

2008-08-19 Thread Richard Fairhurst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Is it possible to include more information with the PIOs. Such as contact numbers ('phone' tag), which would be for restuarants/etc? If you don't mind a bit of Perlery, I preprocess the .osm file to make a cycling version of the map, essentially by rewriting the

[OSM-talk] 'Offset path' distances

2008-08-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hello all, I'm adding a feature to Potlatch whereby you can select a way, choose 'Offset way', and a new, parallel way will be created a certain distance away. Obviously you'll be able to specify any distance you like, but I'd like to offer some presets in metres - for dual carriageways,

Re: [OSM-talk] 'Offset path' distances

2008-08-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: Can you perhaps also find a way to encode this information - either by way of a relation grouping both ways, or a special tag or whatever - so that if the master way is changed later, the parallel way can be changed accordingly? Or would that then be too much magic? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch duplicated node

2008-08-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Groom wrote: Whilst reviewing data I've noted recently a large number of duplicated nodes. These occur where one way joins another. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/915 In short, the issue is that Potlatch creates a node with an (internal) negative ID. When the way is written to

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch duplicated node

2008-08-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: Also, when manipulating ways which are parts of relations it seems to be possible to break the Potlatch/Server link and end up with duplicate ways. I think the best way to do this is to split and join and delete ways which is part of a relation. I haven't worked

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch duplicated node

2008-08-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Groom wrote: Does thtis mean that in theory when creating a T junction it would be better to start from the existing way, insert a node, and then draw the new way away from the exisitng way, rather than to start a new way and move towards the exiting way and join on to that

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)

2008-08-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Richard Fairhurst wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7586789.stm We're also in the Daily Mail (eek)[1]: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1050408/Is-satnav-turning-dunces-map-reading.html cheers Richard [1] for our overseas readers, this is possibly the most reactionary

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)

2008-08-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tim Dobson wrote: Perhaps the people who are nearish the top of OSM, and I feel sheepish that I don't really know who I'm talking about, might like to put out a pressrelease or press statement about how OSM is helping put *real* maps back on the internet and allow cool mashups etc. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - waterways/ditch

2008-09-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tristan Scott wrote: Maybe modifying and clarifying the scope of the drain tag would do? Yes, good idea. I'm thinking in particular of the Middle Level and the Witham Navigable Drains which drain the surrounding fenlands, a bit like the ones you're referring to (though much of the ML and

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - waterways/ditch

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
spaetz wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 10:08:11AM +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: - and that it's possible to represent an exact mph in kph anyway if you can really be bothered: 1mile == 1.609344km exactly Do you always carry your calculator with you when mapping or do you do it by hand :-)

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - waterways/ditch

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
80n wrote: Here's one: http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/5922d576/48b0f367 I can beat that. There are signs on the canal in Market Harborough and Leicester proclaiming the speed limit to be 6.43km/h... you can guess why. cheers Richard ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Satellite for OSM

2009-05-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: Not if you plan to let it make photos that are of better resolution than Landsat though! Oh, I don't know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TopSat http://www.qinetiq.com/home/defence/defence_solutions/space/topsat.html Apparently you can rent it for £25k a week... easily

Re: [OSM-talk] Satellite for OSM

2009-05-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Matt Amos wrote: out of interest, is there a link to the £25k figure? i couldn't find any pricing information on the net anywhere... http://www.qinetiq.com/home/newsroom/news_releases_homepage/2006/4th_quarter/TopSat_toasts_its_first_birthday_with_Best_of_What_s_New_Grand_Award.html A

Re: [OSM-talk] Satellite for OSM

2009-05-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Matt Amos wrote: out of interest, is there a link to the £25k figure? i couldn't find any pricing information on the net anywhere... http://www.qinetiq.com/home/newsroom/news_releases_homepage/2006/4th_quarter/TopSat_toasts_its_first_birthday_with_Best_of_What_s_New_Grand_Award.html A

Re: [OSM-talk] Satellite for OSM

2009-05-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: We would need to take advice on it, but I see no reason why mappers can't sign-up to use the photography on-line Er, we do that already. You can't edit OSM without registering. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Re verting Changes....

2009-05-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Russ Nelson wrote: Richard, I know that you don't have infinite resources to devote to Potlatch. But if you can't For those without the imagination to see what have patience followed by a winking smiley might mean, I would kindly request that you hold fire for a very small amount of time.

Re: [OSM-talk] Satellite for OSM

2009-05-19 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Douglas Furlong wrote: If that is the case, can we not just tie the OSM authentication in to the WMS layer, so that you are only able to view the data IF you have an OSM account. Exactly. One way to do it in Potlatch, for example, would be to require auth on the directory with the spherical

[OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Hi all, It's been an important 24 hours for the webmapping world. At last - and after many months of expectation - UK cycle charity Sustrans released their new online slippy map. Oh yeah, and some irritating US outfit did some data API or something. But never mind any of that, because it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martijn van Exel wrote: Great work. It all seems somewhat snappier. Love the offline editing feature already. Glad you like it (and others, thanks for the kind comments). :) Still no 'building' preset? What would you like to see the preset as? I'm no tagging guru. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0 broken non-ASCII input on Mac OS X?

2009-05-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Woll Newall wrote: Potlatch 1.0 seems to have broken the input of non-ASCII characters in tags. I'm running Potlatch inside the Safari browser on Mac OS X. Before Potlatch 1.0 I could type in Japanese characters into the tags, but now the Japanese hiragana and katakana entries in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Re vert a changeset

2009-05-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Teemu Koskinen wrote: Could somebody revert the node changes in changeset 1315063, someone accidentally moved big part of Hämeentie (a major street in Helsinki). There are over a hundred moved nodes, and they are in middle of hundreds of unmoved nodes, so it would be hard to try to move

Re: [OSM-talk] script to cut a big OSM map into letter or A4 size papers

2009-05-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Matt Amos wrote: i've found that printers often prefer high resolution images over PDFs, but these are also pretty easy to generate. for the mappa mercia A0 print [1] it looks like 9934 x 14046 (300dpi) was a good resolution. puts professional hat on We send the magazine to the printers

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch and sketching from aerial imagery

2009-06-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Joe Richards wrote: If that is the case, why does Potlatch not offer highway=road as one of its presents, under the little car icon? Because I don't really keep up with the ever-changing tagging discussions - life's too short. Anyone with svn access can augment the Potlatch

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging unofficial cycle routes

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
maning sambale wrote: In the Philippines there are very few (close to nothing I know of) officially designated cycleways and routes. However, local cycling/mtb clubs have created/established routes for their own purpose. Any advice on how to tag these routes? If they're not on the

Re: [OSM-talk] When is a road a secondary road and when is it not?

2009-06-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: Personally I want a structure for the town which tells a story about today's road use, rather than a dusty document in a council. I should inform routing engines to keep cars on major roads and cyclists off them. I don't dispute that this information would be valuable

Re: [OSM-talk] Castles and Palaces

2009-06-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: thanks a lot. In old-English you could also say burh. I live in Charl_bury_ and spend a lot of time in _Bur_ton. Shaun, however, comes from Edin_borough_, which the French, funnily enough, know as Edin_bourg_. They're all the same root. I'm not sure that the

Re: [OSM-talk] Castles and Palaces

2009-06-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
I wrote: Edin_borough_ which should of course be Edin_burgh_. Which is a bit further up the ECML from Peter_borough_. And so on. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Castles-and-Palaces-tp23874066p23890407.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses and POI

2009-06-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Lambert Carsten wrote: On Saturday 06 June 2009 15:35:41 Chris Hill wrote: Yes it is an issue - the few that I have looked at have terms and conditions that specifically restrict reuse without written permission - you should expect this on most organisations' websites. The address is not

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch connection to server failed

2009-06-07 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Joe Richards wrote: I have a fairly large set of edits in Potlatch, but when I click 'save', I get Sorry the connection to the Openstreetmap server failed. Any recent changes have not been saved. Would you like to try again [retry] [cancel]. Obviously my internet connectivity is fine,

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch connection to server failed

2009-06-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Paul Fox wrote: i'm seeing this error this evening as well. i've asked on IRC as suggested -- no one's able to help, or maybe no one's awake. :-) I've committed a small change which we think will fix it. Thanks to Joe for provoking it and to Tom for checking the server logs. cheers Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Wanted feature for API 0.7 ??

2009-06-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
MP wrote: Currently only potlatch can do this and since potlatch does not work well with larger areas (it is way too slow) and does not support many features that JOSM have (WMS, plugins, loading/saving to disk, gpx tracks, gpx waypoints ) Well, apart from the GPX tracks (which it

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Shaun McDonald wrote: In my eyes, that road would be simply tagged with highway=cycleway. plus designation=cycleroad cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Bicycle-boulevards-tp23949507p23959526.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Mario Salvini wrote: is there a benefit instead of just tagging these ways: highway=cycleway + motor_vehicle=yes ? Yes. cycleway just told, that's this way is bicycle=designated. So why designation=? designation= means this is the official designation of this way. It has nothing to do with

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Designation

2009-06-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Paul Johnson wrote: I'm opposed; this seems like a duplication of effort for what route relations are currently for You've utterly lost me - I don't see how the 'designation' tag (already in use anyway) has anything to do with route relations. cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] full history of a way?

2009-06-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
MP wrote: So currently, if I want to know how was the way drawn in time T, I had to get history of the way, then find out which nodes were used by the way in time T, then get history from each of the nodes and pick appropriate node from the history, given the time. Then combine this into

Re: [OSM-talk] full history of a way?

2009-06-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
MP wrote: Well, potlatch have feature of reverting to earlier version of way, but doesn't that reverting have a side effect of actually reverting the way? Only if you save it. If you use the edit with save mode and don't save, you can just look. cheers Richard -- View this message in

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren Pieren wrote: I think the whole wiki page needs to be taken outside and shot. Arguing over the presentation on the wiki isn't really the issue. What the tags are, and how they're documented, are two separate things. But like Ævar says, talk is cheap, and though many of us feel strongly

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Amenity Reorganization

2009-06-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pieren wrote: I'm not talking about the whole wiki, just the Map Features page. As was I. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Proposed-Amenity-Reorganization-tp24176224p24183557.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded; instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into the user interface to offer functionality. I'd kind of taken that as read

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM lat/lon bug; ban on versions 1722-1727

2009-07-05 Thread Richard Fairhurst
BAN POTLATCH! Oh, wait. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/JOSM-lat-lon-bug--ban-on-versions-1722-1727-tp24339344p24341064.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.1

2009-07-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Heh, you beat me to the announcement. I’m delighted to say that Potlatch 1.1 - special commemorative SOTM edition - is now live, and there’s loads of new stuff. == Drag-and-drop points of interest == The basics of OSM editing are now easier than ever: 1. Drag a lovely colourful point of

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Chris Hunter wrote: Take a look at the history for this stretch of I-75 near the TN/GA border, since I was unaware of the undo process, I ended up spending 6+ hours redrawing I-75 (admittedly the work needed to be done to fix TIGER, but still) because of a single-keystroke mistake that

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.1

2009-07-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/7/16 Rob r...@coolbegin.com: Can one add it's own poi's ? (like atm's) or like amenity=drinking_water ? Shall I send you an suggested icon so you can add it? Which would be your preferred format? 16x16 PNG to the same design and colour scheme as the current

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.1

2009-07-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Richard Mann wrote: One suggestion would be the ability to memorise the last relation you've added something to (maybe Memory as a third button on the add-to screen), and a single keystroke method of adding another way or node to the memorised relation. Maybe even just ctrl-clicking on the

Re: [OSM-talk] question about untagged green points

2009-07-31 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: did you give JOSM a try? It doesn't suffer from partly loaded data, which might be the issue in your case. I doubt that very much indeed. Potlatch can't load a way without loading its constituent nodes; nor can it find a node which is part of a way without loading

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