I should add that if you want to play with Hue, Saturation and Lightness
(HSL) and Luminance then the following is a good place to start:
http://www.workwithcolor.com/hsl-color-picker-01.htm
Rob
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Hi All,
The guys at MapBox posted a link to their aerial imagery. As expected (and
mentioned in their blog post), Europe is still only low resolution images,
but you can zoom further in on USA:
http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/geoeye.map-0zmhzttc.html#6.00/54.441/-1.611
When Europe gets updated,
Hi Brian,
Happy to get involved where I can. Looking at the list things like
Conference paraphernalia, Marketing/promotion, and AV would tend to suit.
Can also help to organise coaches/transport for any trips we arrange. On
Accommodation, what would be needed?
Some items on the list are quite
Barry,
Local government regions in England can be very confusing. For public
rights of way the responsibility of legally collating these on the
Definitive Map and Statement lies with those regions that are “surveying
authorities”. This is the same as the 152 (151 if you exclude the “City of
I agree that if there is a choice for prow_ref such as:
SimpleData name=CODE801FP1/SimpleData
SimpleData name=NUMBER1Abbots Bickington Footpath 1/SimpleData
then I would use the same as the councils interactive map. If this isn't
possible I would prefer written parish names rather than
to worry about
this, but wouldn’t this be an argument for prow_ref and prow_name? Or even
prow_ref and name?
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*From:* Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 04 January 2013 17:01
*To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
*Subject:* [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM
Hi All,
Happy new year! Just a quick reminder that it is the monthly meetup
tomorrow (Thursday):
The *next social* of the Midlands OSM User Group will be on *Thursday, 3rd
January, 2013, 8pm to 10pm-ish*.
- *Venue*: The Bull, Price Street,
Apologies that this was never added to the wiki page, but you are correct
we discussed prow:ref and prow_ref. I believe tag info suggests we are
converging more on prow_ref=* so will update the wiki to reflect this.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_access_provisions#Public_Rights_of_Way
After 2026 a public right of way will only exist if it appears on the Local
Authorities Definitive Map. This means that irrespective of what is on
the ground, the legal right of way is that shown on the legal Definitive
Map.
What does this mean for OSM:
* As noted designation=public_footpath is
Arg! We were converging on prow_ref when I last looked at tag info a few
months back. Perhaps I should have checked before changing the wiki!!
Seeing that I have now updated the wiki (and it really doesn't make a shred
of difference) does anyone have an issue if I change the existing
prow:ref s
I find that quite often it helps to pull up the historic map layers. Here
is a screenshot showing the route of the road as shown on OS 25k 1st
series map:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bOXEtZE1XY01zcEE
(I'll try to keep this up online for a few months)
The local authority would
I would be happy to help out with improving the wiki (and do this already).
If anyone has any pages that they think could do with improving then please
add them to the wiki cleanup page.
Rob
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, classes, etc.?
There are a variety of areas where adding some structure to wiki-contained
information would be very helpful.
Thanks, Jeff
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Rob Nickerson
rob.j.nicker...@gmail.comwrote:
I would be happy to help out with improving the wiki (and do
Hi Jeremy,
I think I speak for the whole team when I say that we are very keen to have
interaction between FOSS4G and SOTM.
In regards to the dates, we started to look for venues in late October/
early November. We had the support of Birmingham Convention Bureau in
suggesting suitable locations
Thanks Richard and Richard,
I've passed this on to our local user group and we will be updating the
wiki page with a bid for Birmingham, UK shortly.
Regards,
Rob
p.s. Feel free to drop by the talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list if you
would like to get involved in this bid.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/10086205.Tribute_to_Queen_safeguards_Oxpens_Meadow/
I've added the name of the meadow mentioned in this article, but does
anyone
have a suggestion how to tag that it's been designated a QEII Field? I'm
not actually sure what it means, even after reading
?
Regards,
Rob
On 30 November 2012 02:23, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:
2012/11/29 Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com:
Where should amenity=* and addr:*=* be tagged? One suggestion was to add
all
the detail to the entrance node, but this seems odd to me. For single
Hi All,
Yes, the more more the merrier as always. And feel free to come for as
little or as long as you would like.
Do we have a time for meeting at the pub after the afternoon mapping, or is
it just make your way there when it gets dark?
Rob
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia
All,
I have emailed the government department named in the article asking for
clarification of the license. Will keep you updated.
Regards,
Rob
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Hi,
A mapper who is new to my area is interested in mapping disabled access at
a micro level. Specifically he would like to achieve door-to-door mapping
for key shops and amenities, and has made a good start by adding entrance
doors to several buildings.
My Question:
Where should amenity=* and
As noted the resolution is not ideal, but the issue with gaps / overlaps
between the areas is a rendering error on the telegraphs website only. The
main issue however is the lack of clear licence. Perhaps try contacting the
Department for Communities and Local Government and asking them.
As for a
Hi Nick,
Fantastic work. Looking forward to seeing the Android app.
Unfortunately I don't get down to Hampshire that often any more so can't be
of much help. I did however have the please of meaning one of the gents
from Hampshire CC (annoyingly I can't find where I wrote his name down) at
a
Thanks Brian,
Sounds like you made some really good progress today. For talk-gb something
about the discussions and support at our monthly meetings and then a bit
about your progress today would be ideal. Add an invitation for others to
help (you may want to extend this to our neighbouring
Hi Robert,
The odd statement on ONS's website seems to be more related to the Northern
Ireland part of the dataset. If you see the full statement on the licenses
page then it states clearly that the data is available under OGL (see
below). The same statement is also made in the download file
Yep, the Natural England datasets are of good quality. Just one word of
warning the Local Nature Reserves data is not OGL licensed so cannot be
used. All others are ok for use in OSM - I'm slowing doing Millennium
Greens working from the North down one by one so not as to mess up any
existing data
The bit in the south looks (on bing) to be a wide route (so either a
'service' or 'track' highway). I don't think it should be tagged as motor
vehicle = designated tho as this could result in routing software using it
as a through road!!
Rob
On 30 October 2012 22:30, Andy Mabbett
Hi All, Graeme,
(All: If you worked on the National Memorial Arboretum, can you advise on
what tags you used to add the memorial information to trees. Thanks).
You certainly can. When you open the map editor double click on the map to
add a 'node' (a point) where the tree is. In the left hand
Dear All,
The can you / can't you Ordnance Survey OS OpenData takes a step in the
right direction. As previously noted we were unclear whether the additional
clauses OS added to the standard Open Government License caused any issues
for OSM. A clarification from OS cleared this up for data
.
Regards,
Rob
On 15 October 2012 16:54, Florian LAINEZ wrote:
Hi,
Is there some people joining this event ? I just arrived in the city and
would love to meet OSM contributor in Coventry there.
Cheers
2012/10/13 Rob Nickerson
-- Forwarded message --
Hi
** **
I am
Hi All,
(This is a cross post on talk-gb and my local mailing list - please try to
respond to talk-gb)
As you may be aware from my previous mail, the Land Registry is now
releasing 'price paid' data under an OpenData licence. This provides a
fantastic source of address to postcode data. A
Hi All,
(This is a cross post on talk-gb and my local mailing list - please try to
respond to talk-gb)
As you may be aware from my previous mail, the Land Registry is now
releasing 'price paid' data under an OpenData licence. This provides a
fantastic source of address to postcode data. A
-- Forwarded message --
Hi
** **
I am not sure if you or others on Mappa Mercia have already been copied
into this: Coventry City Council is hosting a CityCamp unconference next
weekend, 19-21 October. You can sign up directly at
http://citycampcov.org.uk/
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The
How about short_name (which is listed as recognised by nomination so should
appear in the search results). For the others it's probably easiest to just
tag it, leave a few days and see if it appears in the search - that is
unless anyone can point you in the direction of what does and does not get
I don't think anyone was questioning the authenticity of the claim (rather
the motive of one of the authors given the padding he used around this
claim).
As Andy says, it is up to everyone to decide for themselves. Perhaps this
could have been raised a little earlier so that people were aware and
Thanks Brian,
On 1 if anyone has already completed this form and has a web url, if you
post it here we can like / +1 the request.
On 6 the biggest issue I see is that the only way to contact new mappers is
through the message system and I'm not sure if this can be automated in any
way?
Rob
On
Thanks Brian,
Was wondering whether we were back to the Birmingham meet-ups. Hoping to
make it along this week.
Regards,
Rob
On 1 October 2012 19:58, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all
We're back on our regular slot and will be meeting this week as below
The *next social* of
Glad to hear the map being actively used on the ground. I agree that it
would be nice to link in with live timetables but this requires developers
who have the right skills to expose the data in a nice interface (and then
ideally we need it to be adopted on the main website).
All volunteers
Hi All,
Just a quick heads up that the Open Data User Group (supported by UK
Government) as asking what data do you want. If interested there are
details of the initiative and a simple form to fill out:
http://www.data.gov.uk/odug/overview
http://data.gov.uk/node/add/data-request
Cheers,
Rob
Dear List,
{This is a cross post - please reply to the tagging mailing list or the
proposals [2] talk page. Please forward to local mailing lists as
appropriate }
- - - Announcement - - -
Several attempts have in the past been made to develop a tagging scheme
that is capable of handling the more
Dear List,
For those who do not read the tagging or talk mailing list, please see the
following proposal [1] for how to tag advanced access restrictions. The
proposal is currently under a 2 week voting period (too short in my opinion
for people who do not regularly read the wiki/mailing lists).
Dear List,
For those who do not read the tagging or talk mailing list, please see the
following proposal [1] for how to tag advanced access restrictions. The
proposal is currently under a 2 week voting period (too short in my opinion
for people who do not regularly read the wiki/mailing lists).
The reason designation=unclassified_county_road is described as obsolete on
Robert's page is that there is legally no such thing (unlike public
footpaths, etc.. which are included in the legislation - CROW Act 2000).
When I updated both [1] and [2] this designation was not on the wiki page
and
and Schedule 1 of the Database
Regulations (SI 1997/3032). Companies House imposes no rules or
requirements on how the information on the public register is used.
Andrew
On 31 Aug 2012, at 15:06, Matt Williams wrote:
On 31 August 2012 12:26, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote
Hi Florian,
Good to hear from you. I live in Coventry and am happy to help you where I
can. There's plenty of villages in the surrounding area that have just the
roads mapped. One word of warning - watch out for Bing Imagery, some of it
is very old now. Looking forward to Microsoft updating their
2007. It does seem pretty well-aligned around here though,
not like some places.
Jonathan.
On 28/08/12 16:40, Rob Nickerson wrote:
Hi Florian,
Good to hear from you. I live in Coventry and am happy to help you where
I can. There's plenty of villages in the surrounding area that have just
For mappers which are not OSMF members but interested in the
response...http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2012-August/001618.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2012-August/001618.html
The response includes a clear action for OSM/OSMF. That is they would
Hi all,
One of the issues raised with the extended conditions tag schema was the
use of variable values in the key part of the tag. For example maxspeed:wet
= 80 is in the form constant:variable=variable. This has been deemed to
break the basic tagging rules.
Can I therefore give alternative
.
Regards,
Rob
On 9 August 2012 17:14, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com
wrote:
* maxspeed=120; 80?wet; 60?wet+hgv
Here '?' can be interpreted as 'if' and '+' as 'and'.
It's maybe more readable if you write 120; wet ? 80
Hi All,
I am happy to confirm that I have received confirmation that the PRoW data
held at [1] is available under the OGL licence. This data is the digitised
Definitive Map, and is provided as a WMS map service. This can be viewed
online (through [1] or [2]), alternatively it can be opened in
Hi All,
I am happy to confirm that I have received confirmation that the PRoW data
held at [1] is available under the OGL licence. This data is the digitised
Definitive Map, and is provided as a WMS map service. This can be viewed
online (through [1] or [2]), alternatively it can be opened in
Will aim for 6pm as well. Happy to take on slice 2 unless anyone else is
keen on it.
Summary of slices:
1 Andy
2 Rob
3
4 Brian
5 Mike
Rob
On 1 August 2012 16:46, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
I can be there for about 6pm at the Green Man. I agree with Andy that GPS
is not
Hi Brian,
Do we know what the priorities are for mapping in the area? Is there
anything you would like me to focus on?
Rob
On 30 July 2012 12:22, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote:
I helps if I let you know the date: this Thursday Aug 2nd
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Hi All,
Good news on the local council front. Lambeth council is looking to open up
all (excluding confidential data) the data they hold [1]. This is fantastic
news and somthing other councils should try to follow. They know that this
will be a big task so are looking for people to send in
What problem? None really. Just trying to add some details to this aspect
of OSM. Although the funding is provided by the lottery the land has a
designation within central government. The fact that the land is designated
a millennium green means that certain conditions exist. Quoting from
Hi All,
I agree that prow:ref would work well (although I guess there is a
risk that the 'p' might get missed sometimes). If you are looking for
another suggestion how about designation:ref as the ref is directly
related to the designation=row type? This suggestion was inspired by
the current
Hi All,
Posting this here as I hope someone can remember from when they were
looking at the OS OpenData release:
I'm trying to work out if I am using the correct Coordinate Reference
System for a shapefile downloaded from Natural England. The shapefile
includes a .prj as follows:
Hi All,
As the public sector release spatial data in an open licence we may end up
with a few potentially conflicting data sources (Bing, Ground Survey,
Government Shapefiles). I would like hear peoples opinions on this. I will
use the Rights of Way data Hampshire CC recently released, however I
Yeah, I think it might me a slow process but if there is a clear problem
then may still be worth writing in to start the ball rolling.
By keeping RoW and paths separate what do you mean? Add a way with a
designation=public_footpath (for example) without the highway tag?
RobJN
I say go ahead and use it. In addition to your response from Hants CC, I
found the following on OS's website (see Paul's reply 10, January, 2011 at
5:01):
But because we know that OS OpenData is used in different formats, how the
acknowledgement is included is entirely at the discretion of the
Hi Mike,
[posted to legal-talk and talk-gb; responses to legal-talk or personal
email please]
I understand that you have had previous correspondence with Ornance Survey
and on requesting use of the OpenData you received the response that they
have no objections to geodata derived in part from OS
Hi Mike,
[posted to legal-talk and talk-gb; responses to legal-talk or personal
email please]
I understand that you have had previous correspondence with Ornance Survey
and on requesting use of the OpenData you received the response that they
have no objections to geodata derived in part from OS
Hi Nick, All,
Has any contact been made with either Ordnance Survey or Hampshire CC to
get clarity on the use of the Hampshire OS OpenData?
Recap of the Issue:
* Hampshire CC : The data has been published as Open Data under the
Ordnance Survey Open Data Licence. Here the use of Open Data seems
Hi Nick, All,
Has any contact been made with either Ordnance Survey or Hampshire CC to
get clarity on the use of the Hampshire OS OpenData?
Recap of the Issue:
* Hampshire CC : The data has been published as Open Data under the
Ordnance Survey Open Data Licence. Here the use of Open Data seems
Fantastic use of the data Nick!
Is there any guides for how to do something similar? I was trying to
visualise the Natural England data using Leaflet but failed miserably as
the shapefile is too big. Your website appears to load just the bit needed.
Would I be able to use some of your code?
I have looked at the ESRI shapefile and can confirm that it contains just
the Public Rights of Way [1] too. None of the extra bits you identified
below (however this was expected as it is all we asked for). Long distance
trials are in the Natural England data set, boundaries in the OS OpenData
Hi All,
Now that the Public Right of Way documentation [1] has settled down a bit,
I have had a chance to pick up some of the other comments received in the
last few weeks. One of which was on Unclassified Country Roads (UCR). A
quick google reveals that UCR is:
An obsolete term, created by the
Fantastic news about Hamps PRoW data :-) Anyone else contacting their local
council can use this as an example case.
Q: Do we need to have a suggested way of tagging the reference numbers in
ref=* ? So far I have seen the following in use:
* Parish / path no. / link no.== For example:
Hi Nick,
Whilst the legal side is being discussed, I notice that the press release
makes no reference to the Definitive Statement. Did you ask about this? /
Have you had any direct response from the Council?
Regards,
Rob
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Thanks Martin,
Yes, exactly right; I spent the time to do my research and also wrote up a
brief introduction to cycle tracks vs lanes. As suggested this has now
been moved to the 'tagging' mailing list so feel free to follow the topic
there. I'm a little concerned at how much the scope has
As part of improving the wiki pages on UK tagging guidelines, I wanted to
add details about cycle lanes and cycle tracks. As seen in this mailing
list, I quickly got confused. I want to take this opportunity to share my
findings.
1. cycleway key.
I found the current cycleway key to be confusing.
Hi All,
Just a quick reminder about the next social (Coventry). If you have time to
map beforehand the 'cake' is now online. There are a few different areas
including buildings, retail, civic - All within the ring road. If you have
a desire to go further out then feel free to drop me a message
As part of improving the wiki pages on UK tagging guidelines, I wanted to
add details about cycle lanes and cycle tracks. As seen in this mailing
list, I quickly got confused. I want to take this opportunity to share my
findings.
1. cycleway key.
I found the current cycleway key to be confusing.
Thanks for updating everyone at OpenStreetMap who is registered on the
talk-gb mailing list about the fantastic progress that NLS has made with
the OS 1:25k maps. I was pleasantly surprised to discover NLS last month
(after using the incomplete tiles at http://ooc.openstreetmap.org ).
If NLS are
Hi Tim,
I expect that you would find a good appetitie to fix any problems if we can
see that this will be highly valued (i.e. used in a great tool), and the
bug reports are simple to understand. I'll leave comments about the quality
to others, suffice to say that in the Midlands the roads and
I'm pretty happy to add that any way signposted as either a Byway Public
Byway or Byway Open to All Traffic should be tagged as
designation=byway_open_to_all_traffic as long as it also has a red arrow.
Unlike footpaths there is little chance of a landowner putting up a sign
for a byway unless it
Hi All,
Thanks for the feedback regarding the UK wiki pages. Below is a summary of
updates to the OSM wiki so far:
A. United Kingdom wiki page:
Designed as a central hub to efforts in the UK. I have added links to the
main groups that meet up on a regular schedule. Please let me know if you
run
Hi Adam,
Adding designation=public_footpath would be worthwhile (as long as the
paths are signposted as such), however as noted with the Classic vs
Alternative debate there is no need to change highway=footway.
Regards,
Rob
p.s. Check out my previous email about the wiki pages and let me know
, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:
* It has previously been suggested that a suspected=* tag be used for
when a mapper is undecided. Unless there are objections, I will add
suspected=* (where * is one of the 4 options - public
footpath/bridleway/BOAT/RB) and a generic suspected
Heard about this on the radio. See link below:
Here's a guy who is photographing post boxes in the UK - could be of real
help for OSM. Anyone have contact with him or any other members of the 'Letter
Box Study Group'?
Looks like a case of a new user simplifying the map to give directions to a
friend (not realising that their deletes are implemented for everyone).
There are 3 changesets. If people stay away from editing this area I will
discuss a revert on talk IRC channel this afternoon (not sure how to revert
Was thinking more along the line of asking him is he minds us using his
photos to add the extra details to OSM (e.g. ref numbers, collection times,
and royal cyphers). This would of course depend on how good the photos are
- the ref numbers and collection times are quite small on the details pane
Thanks for commenting/voting on which images provided enough evidence to
tag a way as a public footpath / public bridleway. I am pleased to see
that there was agreement on the simple cases. Others were not so clear cut
and I chuckled when I saw that a Undecided option had been added to the
voting
Hi All
Thanks for all the feedback on the UK tagging guidelines page. I have
collated all these together and will start to implement changes to the page
before reporting back here.
I would like to add a few more images to help new users identify public
rights of way. Can you please spend a
* I contacted Hampshire County Council last week but haven't
had a** response yet.*
Is there a standard letter we are using to ask for this information?
David
I was intending to produce a standard letter and will post it here
when its done (might take me a week as I've got lots to do), but
Hi All,
Based on my experience with OSM, I have spent the rainy days of April
improving the wiki. I've tried to redesign [1] as the main hub for mapping
efforts and members in the UK. Yesterday, I started to add more of a
community element to this page in the form of a grid of main mapping
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the question - It's a good example of how the wiki can be
confusing so I encourage everyone to write in with suggested improvements.
You've had some good answers so I won't repeat them, instead I'll add a
couple of details:
* Please only tag as a public right of way if there
Good question. I had a quick look on google and found the following website:
http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/speed-limits-how-they-are-set
One particular quote is of interest:
Although national speed limits can be set for Northern Ireland separately
from the rest of the UK, it is current practice for
Hi All,
I hadn't thought about public footpaths along a road. It nicely
demonstrates that for RoWs the highway tag really doesn't matter as it is
the designation that gives the relevant information.
In that case I would tend to agree with Andrew's methodology (which also
makes things easier for
Hi All,
A big improvement that can be made to OSM for those people that use the map
data in GPS navigation devices is the inclusion of Speed Limit information.
I've just done a bit of research and have come across the following:
[1]
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