Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi Frederik The Overpass query shows me this morning that with your last redaction the names are back for the 620 highways. Thanks   Pierre Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 13:08:42 HAE, Pierre Béland a écrit : Re-visiting this changeset I see that of the 620 ways

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > With that in hand, I can probably finish up New Jersey this week. Noo Joisey is done. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/chdr.details > > A new list (CSV file) with way id, coordinates, and country/state/county > information. I've eliminated all objects that have been reported to be > ok, and plan to

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Re-visiting this changeset I see that of the 620 ways with tag "source:name"="geobase.ca", 552 ways have no name restored. See for example way  32798176 where I validated the name + added source:name Overpass query http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/sh6 Pierre Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Great, thanks Frederik.   Pierre Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 11:26:35 HAE, Frederik Ramm a écrit : Hi, On 10.10.2017 03:16, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I still have the raw data and I'll write a quick script > that finds these cases and restores the names. Should

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi, On 10.10.2017 03:16, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I still have the raw data and I'll write a quick script > that finds these cases and restores the names. Should be done here https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52829433 Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ##

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Just a heads up for everybody- I'll handle the redactions in the Dallas-Fort Worth area of Texas (Collin, Dallas, Denton, Ellis, Tarrant, Johnson, and Wise Counties) Thanks, Andrew Matheny On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Max Erickson wrote: > I reviewed about 40 ways

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

I reviewed about 40 ways in New York. Here's an Overpass script for finding the ways that have not been changed since the redaction: https://gist.github.com/maxerickson/e02651cce99af983949b91f8d471fb23 The ways are clustered quite a lot. Max ___

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/chdr.details > > A new list (CSV file) with way id, coordinates, and country/state/county > information. I've eliminated all objects that have been reported to be > ok, and plan to

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Thanks  Pierre Le lundi 9 octobre 2017 21:16:19 HAE, Frederik Ramm a écrit : Hi, On 10/10/2017 02:54 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > Hi  Frederik, as a bad armchar mapper, I have revised  the Quebec > highway names before redaction, validating names with an

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi, On 10/10/2017 02:54 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > Hi Frederik, as a bad armchar mapper, I have revised the Quebec > highway names before redaction, validating names with an acceptable > source + adding source:name=geobase.ca. I took some precautions to "save" names; if you have indeed

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi  Frederik, as a bad armchar mapper, I have revised  the Quebec highway names before redaction, validating names with an acceptable source + adding source:name=geobase.ca. After redaction, names are removed + even if I try to re-import - review all the conflicts throug JOSM, I loose all my

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

FYI, I reviewed the ways with redacted names in California (all in San Diego County) and where possible set the names per Tiger 2017 data. In most cases the names set by chdr matched the Tiger names but there were some exceptions. There are a roads that did not have names showing in the Tiger

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi, On 27.09.2017 21:49, Martijn van Exel wrote: > That is helpful. Let us know when you have re-executed the analysis and > posted the results. http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/chdr.details A new list (CSV file) with way id, coordinates, and country/state/county information. I've eliminated

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi, On 27.09.2017 21:49, Martijn van Exel wrote: > That is helpful. Let us know when you have re-executed the analysis and > posted the results. http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/chdr.details A new list (CSV file) with way id, coordinates, and country/state/county information. I've eliminated

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi Frederik, That is helpful. Let us know when you have re-executed the analysis and posted the results. A list of IDs per county would be helpful. We can work together as US community to identify viable sources for re-assessing the correct names, as well as organizing mapping efforts for

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi, On 27.09.2017 06:43, Martijn van Exel wrote: > In your email from Aug 28 you proposed to wait a while as a first step > to gather some feedback on your assessment. Did you receive any? When do > you think you want to proceed with the redaction? Anything we can do to > help? I haven't

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi Frederik, In your email from Aug 28 you proposed to wait a while as a first step to gather some feedback on your assessment. Did you receive any? When do you think you want to proceed with the redaction? Anything we can do to help? I can assist with preparing the MapRoulette challenge to

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Bianca Hambasan wrote: > Hi, > > > > We, the map analysts team from Telenav started editing in Phoenix by > adding and reviewing the road geometry and road name, so we found this > issue too. In our area of interest, we found about 5

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi, We, the map analysts team from Telenav started editing in Phoenix by adding and reviewing the road geometry and road name, so we found this issue too. In our area of interest, we found about 5 200 ways with this tag. We want to help with this since we already edit in the area. Do you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr (Spain)

Thanks Frederik - I will pass that on to talk-es. My next question was going to be about name:xx, but you beat me to it! -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Redacting-75-000-street-names-contributed-by-user-chdr-tp5901701p5901775.html Sent from the General

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr (Spain)

Hi, On 30.08.2017 09:29, alan_gr wrote: > However there is confusion about the process. Several mappers on talk-es > think that if the name of the affected streets can be verified using the > cadastre ahead of time, this will avoid them being deleted. Some mappers > have already started checking

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr (Spain)

(I will continue in Nelson's thread as my post also relates to a specific "other country") The impact on Spain is currently being discussed in the talk-es mailing list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/2017-August/015416.html Spain has a legitimate source of street names in the

[OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

(sorry to break the thread; I was following the discussion through the archive, but I wasn't subscribed) Simon Poole wrote: > Our concern should be more about Mexico, Brazil and other countries > where it is at least not obvious to me if the local communities are > aware of the issue and if we

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Simon Poole wrote Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you want to do, but it would seem as if that just amounts to doing the work twice. After revising 126 elements, I agree with Simon. Let's avoid doing the job twice. Below is an evaluation for Quebec / Canada with a sample of 126 of 1,316 id's

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Am 28.08.2017 um 14:43 schrieb Pierre Béland: > Simon Poole wrote > > PS: naturally simply assuming that all name expansions are > legit is a bit iffy, consider Circle vs. Circuit  and other > expansions that you often can't decide without external > sources, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Simon Poole wrote PS: naturally simply assuming that all name expansions are legit is a bit iffy, consider Circle vs. Circuit  and other expansions that you often can't decide without external sources, I don't know if there are  any such cases in the affected data, but it seems to be silly to

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Hi, On 08/27/2017 08:51 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: > Also, Frederik, I think your script picked up false positives. Spot > checked in DC, and these are expansions of both the street and the > quadrant ("St NW" -> "Street Northwest"(. Can we fix the script and > regen the list? I have modified my

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Am 28.08.2017 um 12:16 schrieb James: > As Stewart has pointed out there are some changes that are valid(name > expansion). I think Mr.Ramm needs to revise his selection algorithm > before mass deletion I'm not quite sure why we are again discussing the center of the known universe again, but I

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

I agree with John that many ways flagged by Frederik look like they are legitimate CanVec imports. In a random sampling of chdr's flagged ways in Canada, fewer than 15% were created by that user. Some had existing names cleaned up (eg: Libersan → Rue Libersan in way 23456048) by chdr. Perhaps more

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > I don't understand what people mean with 'verifying' objects. We're > not trying to find factually-incorrect data. The data is legally > tainted. It's questionable whether looking at the current names >

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

> we can find a good workflow for that. I wasn't expecting the community to >start working on this pre-redaction but if people prefer that to fixing issues >later... Absolutely, let's do this! Also, Frederik, I think your script picked up false positives. Spot checked in DC, and these are

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

On balance I'd go rip it out then go back in and clean it up. Cheerio John On 27 August 2017 at 12:04, James wrote: > As Mr.Ramm said, there can be trap streets, which should be removed. > > When I inspected the data, it seems most of it is in Québec and wouldnt be > hard

[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

FYI, 717 roads will be affected by this redaction in the Philippines. Let's discuss next actions. -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederik Ramm Date: Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 7:19 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75,000 street names contributed by user chdr To:

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Then it wouldn't be hard either to add the names again from a legal source after the redaction. > El 27 ago 2017, a las 13:04, James escribió: > > As Mr.Ramm said, there can be trap streets, which should be removed. > > When I inspected the data, it seems most of it is in

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

As Mr.Ramm said, there can be trap streets, which should be removed. When I inspected the data, it seems most of it is in Québec and wouldnt be hard to validate streetnames for 1400 something items. On Aug 27, 2017 11:24 AM, "Paul Norman" wrote: > On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM, john

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Either directly or indirectly, and it is a suggestion only. Cheerio John On 27 August 2017 at 11:21, Paul Norman wrote: > On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM, john whelan wrote: > >> I would suggest that any street names added by chdr in Canada were more >> than likely derived from CANVEC

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

What do you think is  google source for names in Canada ;)   Pierre De : Paul Norman <penor...@mac.com> À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Dimanche 27 août 2017 11h24 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM, john whelan wrote: I would suggest that any street names added by chdr in Canada were more than likely derived from CANVEC sources What makes you believe this to be so? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

As James said earlier, canvec/geobase opendata provides the street names. This can be easily corrected. But we need to establish a procedure and identify which ways chdr originally added the name. We can look simply at the history with a link to the OSM APIexample adding the id after way/ :

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

In Canada as James has said CANVEC which has been accepted as Open Source acceptable to OSM has most street names in Canada. There are a few exceptions locally where the city has renamed streets and these changes have not yet been reflected in CANVEC. I would suggest that any street names added

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

In Canada as James has said CANVEC which has been accepted as Open Source acceptable to OSM has most street names in Canada. There are a few exceptions locally where the city has renamed streets and these changes have not yet been reflected in CANVEC. I would suggest that any street names added

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

If we validate via survey say in Canada, will we be able to remove the id from the revert list? Canada has Canvec we can reference to as well as OpenStreetCam and Mapillary On Aug 27, 2017 9:50 AM, "Frederik Ramm" wrote: > Hi, > >in 2010 I was privately contacted by