Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-06-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 20/05/2020 22:43, Lester Caine wrote: On 20/05/2020 20:32, Frederik Ramm wrote: Not copying past answers, at least the last two years or so, would mean we'd have to write all these answers again because the questions will inevitably be asked. I'm with you on that ... I've seen far too much

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
May 22, 2020, 17:55 by al...@mustard.net: > Bearing in mind Mateusz's admonition, "Wait for someone to volunteer and > fix? It would be nice, but not sure what are chances of that," perhaps > we have reached the outer limits of what the do-ocracy can accomplish in > this case. > Maybe OSMF can

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-22 Thread Allan Mustard
map.org is dying (Tom Hughes) >>>3. Re: our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying (Lester Caine) >>>4. Re: our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying (Simon Poole) >>>5. Re: our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying (Tobias Wrede) >>>6. Re: our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying (Frederik Ra

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Lester Caine
On 20/05/2020 20:32, Frederik Ramm wrote: Not copying past answers, at least the last two years or so, would mean we'd have to write all these answers again because the questions will inevitably be asked. I'm with you on that ... I've seen far too much material simply ditched because it been

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Andrew Hain
We could also look at the software Codidact and Topanswers have been writing. -- Andrew From: Mateusz Konieczny via talk Sent: 20 May 2020 14:48 To: Tobias Wrede Cc: Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying May 20, 2020, 09:28

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread James
Has the code base diverged from OSQA? If we were to submit changes would we need to provide source code as the original code is GPL3? On Wed., May 20, 2020, 4:25 p.m. Tobias Wrede, wrote: > Am 20.05.2020 um 21:32 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > > > > We've taken great care to write our replies in a

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tobias Wrede
Am 20.05.2020 um 21:32 schrieb Frederik Ramm: We've taken great care to write our replies in a generic fashion where possible, with the aim of collecting knowledge that others can profit from (instead of asking the same question over and over again). Not copying past answers, at least the last

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 5/20/20 17:37, Tobias Wrede wrote: > I wouldn't worry too much about migrating past material to the new site. > Of course that would be a plus but not doing so shouldn't stop us from > migrating to something new and lasting soon. We've taken great care to write our replies in a generic

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tobias Wrede
Am 20.05.2020 um 16:04 schrieb Lester Caine: ... offers a hope that there is potential to pump existing material across? I wouldn't worry too much about migrating past material to the new site. Of course that would be a plus but not doing so shouldn't stop us from migrating to something new

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Simon Poole
Am 20.05.2020 um 15:45 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk: > Well, if nobody will volunteer to fix it then we will need to select > between > stack exchange migration and simply killing the QA site. We could simply pay for the migration (and if necessary for some support going forward), the

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Lester Caine
On 20/05/2020 08:28, Tobias Wrede wrote: The site is based on OSQA, a software which has not been maintained in some time. Some application errors have surface in the past but had to be ignored since no fixes are coming from OSQA any more. Until now we could live with that. They were

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tom Hughes via talk
On 20/05/2020 14:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Migrate to Stack Exchange? Even assuming that this company will agree it has plenty of potential issues. They have a public process for proposing new sites: https://area51.stackexchange.com/faq So long as enough people are interested

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
May 20, 2020, 09:28 by l...@tobias-wrede.de: > Can we involve any of the OSM organizations to find, maybe pay, someone? > The question is about the plan. Life support for this specific platform? It sounds like an endless pit that can consume plenty of resources, but maybe I am too

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
May 20, 2020, 15:25 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > Personally my preference would be to close help.osm.org and move to a > proper SO site via the Area 51 process which should be no problem for a > community of our size. > > I imagine that will be unpopular with a subset of our users however. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tom Hughes via talk
Where on earth do you get the idea that they're using the same software? They're not. In fact OSQA and all the other similar open source projects are attempts to recreate the Stack Overflow experience and they're basically all dead or, if still on life support, then very poor clones.

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Stack Overflow is using the same type as software, not the same software. May 20, 2020, 14:52 by andreas.vi...@gmail.com: > Can't we update as they do? > Stack Exchange is running private proprietary software, that is a separate platform. And yes, you can pay them to run your own instance. At

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Andreas Vilén
Stack overflow seems to use the same software and is highly active. This seems to be updated? Can't we update as they do? https://stackoverflow.com/questions /Andreas On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:34 AM Tobias Wrede wrote: > Hi, > > we have several channels in OSM to facilitate discussions and

[OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tobias Wrede
Hi, we have several channels in OSM to facilitate discussions and support. First touch point for new users is often help.openstreetmap.org. Questions relating to mapping in general, tagging, editors, development, OSM based applications are asked there and get answered in most cases. The