Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-02-20 Thread Ed Loach
I suspect 2009 will see the emergence of proper OSM walking/hiking maps so its time we got our act together. Please pull the page apart and add new stuff. Ideally try to keep content and ideas in the same sort of format as the Cycle Route ones so that we have some synergy and we don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-02-20 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Feb 20, 2009, at 11:14, Ed Loach wrote: In the wiki, Relation:route[1] suggests network of uk_ldp for the UK long distance path network, but Walking_Routes[2] suggests iwn/nwn/rwn/lwn for network types. It looks like the uk_ldp goes back over a year to October 2007, so there are probably a

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Harris
] Sent: 20 February 2009 11:25 To: Ed Loach Cc: osm Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work? On Feb 20, 2009, at 11:14, Ed Loach wrote: In the wiki, Relation:route[1] suggests network of uk_ldp for the UK long distance path network, but Walking_Routes[2

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-20 Thread Frankie Roberto
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: A relation should quite happily hold all of the bits and pieces for the Pennine Bridleway, it wouldn't really be doing its intended job if it didn't. I've already done most of the Pennine Way

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frankie Roberto wrote: There also seems to be the Pennine Cycleway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennine_Cycleway), which I've never seen signposted. It's Sustrans National Route 68, the whole of which (well, except for two alternative braids) is lovingly mapped on OSM, from Derby to

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-20 Thread Someoneelse
I don't think that the Pennine Bridleway is complete yet (they haven't decided where the northern part of the route will go). Where I have seen it signposted (from Derbyshire up towards Lancs) it seems to go in the same direction is the Pennine Way but runs on mostly separate bridleways.

[OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I started a stub http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Walking_Routes based upon the Cycle Routes page. I hope this doesn't duplicate anything but I could not find a landing page on the wiki to cover long distance walking and hiking routes generally. Needs work to pull stuff together and the UK long

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Gregory Williams
-Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Robinson (blackadder- lists) Sent: 19 January 2009 10:26 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work? I started a stub http

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Gregory Williams [mailto:gregory.willi...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] wrote: Sent: 19 January 2009 10:44 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work? -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Mike Harris
as I would be more than happy to contribute to this discussion. Thanks! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com] Sent: 19 January 2009 10:26 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Mike Harris
2009 10:44 To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work? -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Robinson (blackadder- lists) Sent

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
...@purplegeodesoftware.co.uk] Sent: 19 January 2009 10:44 To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work? -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Someoneelse
If it would help to tie the Cleveland Way relation together I can offer a series of 300m-separated waypoints in OSGB format for the section between Helmsley (actually from the spur at the bottom of White Horse Bank) and Guisborough. No tracklog though - it is from an old GPS with no data

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
if it didn't. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Someoneelse Sent: 19 January 2009 3:28 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work? If it would help

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking Routes - wiki needs some work?

2009-01-19 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Am 19.01.2009 14:17, Mike Harris: I have made some edits on your page as a starter for 10 - but feel that I should have probably put comments somewhere else. Could you advise me on protocol and procedure as I would be more than happy to contribute to this discussion. Don't hesitate, just do

[OSM-talk] Walking routes made up of OSM ways on Freemap

2008-08-16 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Have added experimental, prototype functionality to Freemap to allow users to create walking routes by selecting multiple OSM ways. If you go to http://www.free-map.org.uk/freemap/index.php?lat=51.05lon=-0.72zoom=14 try clicking on footpaths with CTRL held down, and you'll be

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking routes and OSM (again)

2008-06-29 Thread Igor Brejc
Ben Laenen wrote: What about routes that don't follow roads? I've been on walking routes that send you straight through a grass field, or through a lot of trees with no visible path, just marks on the trees. Greetings Ben highway = footway? Igor -- http://igorbrejc.net

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking routes and OSM (again)

2008-06-28 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Jun 27, 2008, at 16:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) Get the user to click each way in turn on the slippy map. Each way then gets highlighted (possible via OpenLayers Vector layer). When finished, user clicks Done and can add any further comments. This should be fairly easy to

[OSM-talk] Walking routes and OSM (again)

2008-06-27 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, Richard's comments the other day have got me strongly interested in implementing tightly-bound (to OSM ways) walking routes in Freemap. There are a couple of UI ways in which this could be implemented: a) Get the user to click each way in turn on the slippy map. Each way then

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking routes and OSM (again)

2008-06-27 Thread Rory McCann
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Richard's comments the other day have got me strongly interested in implementing tightly-bound (to OSM ways) walking routes in Freemap. There are a couple of UI ways in which this could be implemented: This would be a great thing to have. However it doesn't have to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking routes and OSM (again)

2008-06-27 Thread simon
a) Get the user to click each way in turn on the slippy map. Each way then gets highlighted (possible via OpenLayers Vector layer). When finished, user clicks Done and can add any further comments. This should be fairly easy to implement - and some of the code (detecting the closest way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking routes and OSM (again)

2008-06-27 Thread Michael Collinson
At 03:57 PM 6/27/2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello everyone, Richard's comments the other day have got me strongly interested in implementing tightly-bound (to OSM ways) walking routes in Freemap. There are a couple of UI ways in which this could be implemented: a) Get the user to click each way

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking routes and OSM (again)

2008-06-27 Thread Ben Laenen
On Friday 27 June 2008, Nick Whitelegg wrote: a) Get the user to click each way in turn on the slippy map. Each way then gets highlighted (possible via OpenLayers Vector layer). When finished, user clicks Done and can add any further comments. This should be fairly easy to implement - and some

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-23 Thread Gregory
I have used the route tag which I think is approved. route=Lanchester Valley Way route=Battle of Neville's Cross I saw some signs, I guess they are walking routes. They may be interesting but I wouldn't say the best route to get to the end. How about route_quality= (very muddy, maintained path,

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-22 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Jan 22, 2008, at 13:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Whitelegg wrote: TBH I would be fairly dubious about tagging any non-waymarked walks/cycle rides as routes, let alone ones of my own devising. This is interpretation which should be kept out of the largely factual OSM. The data

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-22 Thread grungelborz
Robert Vollmert wrote: But for that purpose, people can use gps-tour.info, right? OSM would be interesting by allowing to present recommended walks, etc. as a sequence of OSM ways. But this data probably would better go into a separate database. I'm sure there's an opportunity for a

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Jan 21, 2008 10:19 AM, Nick Whitelegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with walking (hiking) route around Nuremberg. What are the recommended relation tags for walking routes? Do you mean walking routes as in paths, or walking routes as in

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-21 Thread Jo
Andy Allan wrote: On Jan 21, 2008 10:19 AM, Nick Whitelegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with walking (hiking) route around Nuremberg. What are the recommended relation tags for walking routes? Do you mean walking routes as in

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I think it's the latter, the same as for cycling routes being the meta, rather than the physical (cycleway). I've thought about this before but I never followed it through. I really think that they cycling stuff works well, and it could easily be replicated into walking by using the idea of

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Talking of walking routes in a more general sense , i.e. not official long distance paths but a favourite route/circuit e.g. the Old Dungeon Ghyll-Pike o'Blisco-Crinkle Crags-Band-Old Dungeon Ghyll route in the Lake District (excellent last day of last year's mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Jan 21, 2008 12:33 PM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Whitelegg wrote: Talking of walking routes in a more general sense , i.e. not official long distance paths but a favourite route/circuit e.g. the Old Dungeon Ghyll-Pike o'Blisco-Crinkle Crags-Band-Old Dungeon Ghyll

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Andy Allan wrote: Sent: 21 January 2008 10:34 AM To: Nick Whitelegg Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes? On Jan 21, 2008 10:19 AM, Nick Whitelegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with walking (hiking) route around

Re: [OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
In many countries footpaths are numbered (but a trip to the local library is normally needed in the UK to get hold of them for public footpaths) so I can see that following a method similar to the cycle network should work well but might be a little more difficult to visualise in the UK and

[OSM-talk] walking routes?

2008-01-20 Thread Karl Eichwalder
The same questions apply to cycle and walking routes, but they are rendered already on Andy's map. I'll see what happens when two/three routes use the same ways there. Also walking routes? This would be good news. I started with walking (hiking) route around Nuremberg. What are the