Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread Warin
On 4/2/22 10:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 19:32, wrote: I assume these National parks where different rules are in effect have a boundary relation. In which case it would be possible to either: a) tag a def: directly on that boundary relation with

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

2022-02-03 Thread Warin
On 4/2/22 17:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I've always listed the name of units & so on just as name=*. +1 No longer used as the address, used 2 centuries ago. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 16:14, Mat Attlee wrote: Whilst I was out surveying today I stumbled upon a

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

2022-02-03 Thread stevea
Dang auto-correct, of course that's addr:housename. And when there is "both," as it appears here, "that's a good question!" (Maybe enter both?) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

2022-02-03 Thread stevea
On Feb 3, 2022, at 10:12 PM, Mat Attlee wrote: > Whilst I was out surveying today I stumbled upon a building that had a street > number but also a house name, as just above the entrance and door number it > said Rivenhall. Now the question is should this be tagged as the name or >

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread osm.talk-au
Well, the advantage of that approach, ***if it were supported by data consumers***, is that you could just classify your ways using some tag, and then have whatever consequences are of legislation apply to them. If the legislation changes, you just make the change to these default definitions,

Re: [talk-au] Tagging a house name

2022-02-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
I've always listed the name of units & so on just as name=*. Thanks Graeme On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 16:14, Mat Attlee wrote: > Whilst I was out surveying today I stumbled upon a building that had a > street number but also a house name, as just above the entrance and door > number it said

[talk-au] Tagging a house name

2022-02-03 Thread Mat Attlee
Whilst I was out surveying today I stumbled upon a building that had a street number but also a house name, as just above the entrance and door number it said Rivenhall. Now the question is should this be tagged as the name or addr:housename? I know the latter is common in the UK though I couldn't

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks, both! Yep, get's very messy very quickly :-( Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread osm.talk-au
def: can have conditions: “def:highway=footway[walking_track=yes];access:bicycle”=no (I’m not proposing this particular tagging scheme, this is just an example) So if there is any tag on your walking track footways, or paths, or whatever that can be used to distinguish them, you could

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Graeme, That’s correct – however the defaults can be set on very specific tags (def:highway=footway;access:bicycle=no) and if absolutely necessary even down to within a single park/reserve/area/track rather than a blanket ruling. It would get very fiddly at that degree of detail.

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 19:32, wrote: > I assume these National parks where different rules are in effect have a > boundary relation. > > > > In which case it would be possible to either: > > > > a) tag a def: directly on that boundary relation with the rules that apply > or (maybe better in this

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread Phil Wyatt
Thanks Thorsten, That would work however there has been a fairly recent regulation change that does allow bicycle use within signed areas, but those signed/specified/leased areas could also get the same defaults relation. At the moment I am not aware of any areas within National Parks but

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread osm.talk-au
I assume these National parks where different rules are in effect have a boundary relation. In which case it would be possible to either: a) tag a def: directly on that boundary relation with the rules that apply or (maybe better in this case) b) create a type=defaults relation “Tasmania

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread Phil Wyatt
I probably should have qualified my comment as I am dealing solely with tracks within National Parks (at this stage). I know there are tracks outside of National Parks where such bike restrictions do not apply. Cheers - Phil From: Little Maps Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2022 7:19 PM To:

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread Josh Marshall
My 2¢ here, as both an avid runner/hiker and bike rider (in NSW). Most of my editing is along those lines, along with tracks through the bush when I go exploring. I’m particularly conscious of routing issues and fixing them if there’s an issue†, given I use a number of route planners that use

Re: [talk-au] Path versus Footway

2022-02-03 Thread Little Maps
Hi all, thanks for a really informative discussion. I’m puzzled by the comments I’ve copied below. I’m uncertain when legislative defaults apply (and hence explicit access tagging isn’t required) and when tagging is needed. In the instance mentioned below, bicycle = no should not be added to