Re: [talk-au] Tagging Trucks (hgv) "Use low gears"

Andrew beat me to it. There is a speed restriction associated with the "Must use low gear signs" under the road rules. It states: "you must drive in a gear that is low enough to limit the speed of your vehicle without using the foot brake." Unfortunately it's not a defined limit although i

Re: [talk-au] Wadbilliga Road south east NSW marked 4WD only

It may be shown as tertiary but I'd be cautious about removing 4wd_only based on the NSW basemap only. Have you had a look at the NSW imagery for that area or checked any other form of road conditions eg. https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/things-to-do/4wd-touring-routes/wadbilliga-road-dri

Re: [talk-au] new OpenStreetCam competition

Hi Martijin, When an upload completes how long should it take to show on the openstreetcam.org website? Cheers Ross On 19/03/19 01:08, Martijn van Exel wrote: Howdy. We had a good time with the first OpenStreetCam competition, the winners received their prizes, and we decided to hold an

Re: [talk-au] Editing speed limit in Australia

Welcome to oz roads. I had a look on street view and can not see any 60 signs along Warwick Road they are all 70. Cheers Ross On 09/03/19 10:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 08:48, Ross Scanlon <mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: What you've said

Re: [talk-au] Editing speed limit in Australia

| In some situations, especially on off-ramps, there isn’t any speed limit sign at the beginning of the link only at the end of it or in the | middle. I observed that in these situations the speed limit of the motorway is added on the first part of the link. Because this is the | predominant

Re: [talk-au] Issues with a user putting back incorrect tags

Contact the Data Working Group On 09/09/17 10:34, Philip Mallis wrote: Hi all, I am seeking advice on how to proceed with an issue around Melbourne and Victoria regarding tagging of abandoned/disused railway stations and railways. The Outer Circle Line is a railway that has been almost en

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Use of City of Gold Coast data for OpenStreetMap project

No. As it's just saying it's CC-By 3.0 which does not qualify for ODBL. Compare it with some of the other express permissions on the wiki and probably forward GCCC a link to show them what osm needs. Cheers Ross On 16/03/17 16:09, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Hi all Reply attached from GC

Re: [talk-au] When is a Road a Track

On 11/02/17 12:21, Warin wrote: On 11-Feb-17 11:28 AM, Ross Scanlon wrote: On 11/02/17 07:00, Warin wrote: The NSW LPT base map is particularly helpful for road classifications .. tracks, unclassified, tertiary and paths. It is in some ways better than a survey as it looks to take into

Re: [talk-au] When is a Road a Track

On 11/02/17 07:00, Warin wrote: The NSW LPT base map is particularly helpful for road classifications .. tracks, unclassified, tertiary and paths. It is in some ways better than a survey as it looks to take into account the importance to the community and that is very hard to determine by simp

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for Pipeline Reserves

On 08/02/17 11:17, Warin wrote: On 08-Feb-17 12:10 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: On 08/02/17 11:00, Warin wrote: Some pipe lines cross farms, residential areas ... so ? I will ask on the tagging list as it is not Australian specific. I note the pipeline is not visible ... I assume underground

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for Pipeline Reserves

park not the type of pipeline. On 08-Feb-17 11:31 AM, Ross Scanlon wrote: park=pipeline_reserve On 08/02/17 10:29, Adam Horan wrote: My local area (and I'm sure many others) have lots of pipeline reserves. I'm really not sure how to tag these. They appear to have public acc

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for Pipeline Reserves

8 February 2017 at 11:31, Ross Scanlon <mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: park=pipeline_reserve On 08/02/17 10:29, Adam Horan wrote: My local area (and I'm sure many others) have lots of pipeline reserves. I'm really not sure how to tag these. They app

Re: [talk-au] Tagging for Pipeline Reserves

park=pipeline_reserve On 08/02/17 10:29, Adam Horan wrote: My local area (and I'm sure many others) have lots of pipeline reserves. I'm really not sure how to tag these. They appear to have public access for walking at least. (One local one has a sign disallowing golf...) Some others appear

Re: [talk-au] Parks Vic data

capad On 08/02/17 09:49, nwastra wrote: Hi I have found many problems with the Heathcote-Graytown National Park in Victoria. Is there a place from which I can download the boundary as we have done with the NSW LPI NPWSReserve - public/NSW_Administrative_Boundaries, so I sort out where the g

[talk-au] agri.openstreetmap.org not working

All the imagery hosted on openstreetmap servers as listed here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aerial_imagery#Imagery_hosted_on_OSM_servers Except for the South African imagery. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [talk-au] Advice on Tags in a Hamlet

Split the way at the railway tracks, add name="Smith Street", add alt_name="Lalbert - Kerang Road" to the section west of the railway. Like this: http://map.fosm.org/browse/way/102503479#map/18/-35.676/143.377 Cheers Ross On 16/01/17 10:30, Simon Slater wrote: G'day all, We needed

Re: [talk-au] AGRI.openstreetmap.org not working

Still not available. Any update on when it's likely to be back. Cheers Ross On 17/10/14 08:40, Ross Scanlon wrote: Any update on when this will be fixed? Cheers Ross On 10/08/14 23:54, Grant Slater wrote: Hi All, Sorry... Not yet been able to get access to the broken machine. It

Re: [talk-au] AGRI.openstreetmap.org not working

Any update on when this will be fixed? Cheers Ross On 10/08/14 23:54, Grant Slater wrote: Hi All, Sorry... Not yet been able to get access to the broken machine. It will remain high on my task list to get it up and running again. Longer term the rest of the sysadmin team are planning to repl

[talk-au] AGRI.openstreetmap.org not working

As the title says agri.openstreetmap.org does not appear to be working. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] VicMap in Potlatch2

Thanks. It can also be used in josm. Edit->Preferences->WMS/TMS add a new tms http://whoots.mapwarper.net:80/tms/{zoom}/{x}/{y}/WEB_MERCATOR/http://api.maps.vic.gov.au/geowebcacheWM/service/wms?VERSION=1.1.1&TILED=true Cheers Ross On 14/05/14 11:08, Steve Bennett wrote: Hi all, I've jus

Re: [talk-au] NSW LPI licencing framework review [Was: Wither Sydney suburb boundaries?]

I'd also suggest getting address data, similar to the vicmap data, and released as cc-by-sa Cheers Ross On 01/05/14 10:20, Michael Gratton wrote: On Thu, 1 May, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Ian Sergeant wrote: I agree that if and when we can use the definitive suburb boundaries we should use their l

Re: [talk-au] QLD GTFS Data Imports

On 24/02/14 12:01, waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Bummer that you can't get in contact with morb_au Have you tried twitter? A search there shows he's still around but possibly not really interested in osm any more. His first diary post gives a hint to the dis-interest. Cheers Ross ___

Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

If DWG has put a block then he can not edit until responding to it to the DWG. That's not to say he can not make another user name. Cheers Ross On 17/02/14 09:27, Jason Ward wrote: It still leaves correction of errors up to the community I'm afraid and if he ignores that message in the user

Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

If the DWG does not respond then try contacting Frederik Ramm at; frederik at remote dot org He is usually very helpful with instances of vandalism. Cheers Ross On 16/02/14 13:46, Ross Scanlon wrote: Contact the DWG, get them to put a block on this user. Then you can do something about

Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

Contact the DWG, get them to put a block on this user. Then you can do something about the edits. This is similar to previous vandalism in the Perth area by the likes of user Brendan_Cherry Cheers Ross On 16/02/14 13:23, Leon Kernan wrote: Problem is that some of these were tagged under co

Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

Maybe if it's vandalism you should read the section on vandalism in the wiki. Has anyone contacted the user. Cheers Ross On 11/02/14 09:11, SomeoneElse wrote: Leon Kernan wrote: Sorry guys, another one. This change is just pure vandalism. He's created non-existent freeways and roads aroun

Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia

y=The Gap), or should we understand the tags as literally as possible (in that case, I would go addr:city=Brisbane and addr:suburb=The Gap). What would be the best way to decide on a convention so we can add guidelines for OSM-AU? Cheers Stéphane (chtfn) On 19/01/14 11:04, Ross Scanlon wrote: I&

Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia

I'd suggest you check this page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr You'll see that the addr:country is supposed to be: "The ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 two letter country code in upper case." We are talking addresses not is_in. Also addr:state can be either but it tends to be the abbreviation

Re: [talk-au] Address tagging guidelines for Australia

I came to this because I was asking myself: - Are we using QLD or Queensland for addr:state? - What is our definition of suburb vs city for the tags? (e.g. The Gap vs Brisbane. Postal addresses only contain "The Gap", and it is referred as a sub

Re: [talk-au] Australian Tagging Guidelines

On 08/01/14 10:26, Warin wrote: Hi, Some thoughts on Australian Tagging Guidelines - OpenStreetMap Wiki.htm First it is very good - covers most common issues. In fact I'd call it excellent. But .. there could be some additions? How do you tag a 'Gully'? .. I've used waterway=stream intermitt

Re: [talk-au] Murchison - Square Kilometer Telescope not showing on Garmin maps

On 31/12/13 10:17, Warin wrote: Hi, I've noted that some (if not all) of the Australian Square Kilometer Telescope north east of Murchison WA is entered (and has been for some time) in OSM but it does not show up on my Garmin maps. 26.7S 116.7E entries are key man_made value radio telescope k

Re: [talk-au] Sydney: Epping M2 + Devlins Creek - bridge + levels

On 19/12/13 11:07, Warin wrote: Hi, I though I changed this .. Where Devlins Creek goes under the M2 The creek is at 'gound level' - as are the path to the east and the 'cycleway' (actually cycle + foot + emergency vehicles) to the west. The M2 is on a small bridge at that point .. you may

Re: [talk-au] Adding residential properties?

ery has a couple meter shift in this area, so things line up but the roads are offset a bit - I can't decide whether to recenter my points around the roads or not, since presumably if it's ever correct a big shift would then line everything up nicely. On Sat 07 Dec 2013 15:29:54 EST, Ross

Re: [talk-au] Adding residential properties?

cision You need to reference the bing imagery to the gps traces or roads marked as source= survey or nearmap or agri. Cheers Ross On Sat 07 Dec 2013 15:29:54 EST, Ross Scanlon wrote: But where should the node go? Referring to here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_feature/associatedAddres

Re: [talk-au] Adding residential properties?

and somehow upload that, at which point the address assignments would make sense provided I stuck address points at all the entrances? On 05/12/13 21:07, Ross Scanlon wrote: I'd suggest you read these wiki pages: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [talk-au] Adding residential properties?

I'd suggest you read these wiki pages: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address My personal opinion is that the address should be on a separate node at the entrance to the property. This is preferred for disability access programs. It also take

Re: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data

ake away the integration pains - so there are clear examples of both the public and commercial sectors benefiting from this sort of open data. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Ross Scanlon mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: ·Street Address Limitations ( missing streets and stree

Re: [talk-au] South Australia - Public Transport / OSM data

·Street Address Limitations ( missing streets and street numbers) Make a dataset like this available for inclusion in openstreetmap http://www.data.vic.gov.au/raw_data/vicmap-address/4875 Would resolve the above fairly rapidly. Cheers Ross ·walking paths data not included across many of

Re: [talk-au] loading JOSM

Revert to java 6 The message on the start up screen has been there for ages and it's sometime soon. I'm using ubuntu 12.04 as well and have no problems running josm with java 6. Cheers Ross On 27/10/13 11:27, Arthur Geeson wrote: Hi, Firstly a thank you to the replies I got about the mi

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 76, Issue 8

g> You can reach the person managing the list at talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au-ow...@openstreetmap.org> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..." Today's Topics:

Re: [talk-au] vicmap data licensing

Cut the data into small chunks (0.25 x 0.25 deg). Load each chunk it into josm. Download the relevant area to a separate layer. Compare with what is already there. Expect to spend a least 2 hours with each chunk depending on what data your adding. Cheers Ross On 11/10/13 06:37, Li wrote:

Re: [talk-au] ISP caching problems with JOSM ?

Sounds more like the caching within JOSM. Cheers Ross On 12/09/13 23:15, Grant Slater wrote: Hi Ian, The api.openstreetmap.org map data servers send "no-cache" headers and proxy/caches should therefore NOT be caching the results... But some ISPs are too aggressive with their caching. Make su

Re: [talk-au] Incorporating public information into OSM - Legal situation

Did they confirm with Geoscience that the "Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Australia" is compatible with ODBL? This is one of the reservations that some of us had with changing to ODBL. Also you will find it's not that easy. It takes a significant amount of time and effort to include this da

Re: [talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points

large multipolygon lake in JOSM creates a > > similar problem. So I align lakes in Polatch 2 and all works well. > > > > Finding JOSM very powerful but still very much a newbie with it. > > > > Cheers > > Brett Russell > > PO Box 94 > >

Re: [talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points

Australia 0419 374 971 On 25/06/2013, at 1:25 PM, "Ross Scanlon" mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: >> Hi >> >> I am all to aware of the 2000 node limit with OSM but when using JOSM to >> create lakes as multipolygons from

Re: [talk-au] JOSM uploads past 2000 points

Hi I am all to aware of the 2000 node limit with OSM but when using JOSM to create lakes as multipolygons from multiple ways it is easier to create the ways, link them a multipolygon relationship, tag properties and upload. JOSM then creates a change set and gives five tries and fails so if you h

Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach

On 16/12/12 16:50, Russell Edwards wrote: Could I ask a newbie question on this topic? I want to update some roads that are 4wd-only in certain sections. Any "new approach" aside, what is the best way to do this -- a) what tag do I use, and b) how do I handle the changing traversibility - separ

Re: [talk-au] tagging 4WD and dirt roads - I give up.

For rendering, no surface= or surface=asphalt/concrete/paved would produce the current rendering. Any other surface= would produce a dashed line/casing. To me that's a relatively simple distinction that would be more appealing to those maintaining the renderers. I've been working on this render

Re: [talk-au] traffic lights on dual carriageway intersections

And the only area it's done like this is in Melbourne. Cheers Ross On 03/11/12 17:03, John Henderson wrote: "Steer" wrote: I have been trying to find the accepted practise for mapping traffic lights where dual carriageways interest. There is much discussion on various sites, but most seems t

Re: [talk-au] 4wd_only Tag - is it the right choice ?

You point out the problem with this: tracktype is ignored on everything except highway=track You would have to modify this in the rendering anyway. As 4wd_only can apply to any highway= tag it is more appropriate. From memory this was part of the original discussion when 4wd_only was proposed

Re: [talk-au] [Imports] Importing locality names from GeoScience Australia dataset.

On 27/10/12 18:52, Chris Barham wrote: Hi, On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Li Xia mailto:lisxia1...@gmail.com>> wrote: 1. Can anyone suggest tags other than the following? name: place:locality source: © Commonwealth of Australia (GeoScience Australia) 2006. 2. Using JOSM

Re: [talk-au] Dirt Roads

On 26/10/12 08:43, Andrew Harvey wrote: On 22/10/12 11:20, Ross Scanlon wrote: Mapnik 2 will allow tagging of 4wd_only=recommended and 4wd_only=yes. An example of 4wd_only=yes here: http://map.4x4falcon.com/?zoom=14&lat=-20.73023&lon=116.99701&layers=B0F The 4wd_only=recommende

Re: [talk-au] Dirt Roads

I'm happy for you to use that link as a reference. I'll refrain from commenting on the remainder of that para. When the 4wd_only tagging was introduced it was attempted to get this included in the mapping but there was reluctance to do so. Like most proposals it did not have a rendering propo

Re: [talk-au] Dirt Roads

Mapnik 2 will allow tagging of 4wd_only=recommended and 4wd_only=yes. An example of 4wd_only=yes here: http://map.4x4falcon.com/?zoom=14&lat=-20.73023&lon=116.99701&layers=B0F The 4wd_only=recommended is similar but shows "4WD Recommended". It is a trivial matter with Mapnik 2 to use text subs

Re: [talk-au] Aligning steets

On 20/09/12 22:30, Stephen Hope wrote: I'm not saying that a mini-roundabout isn't a roundabout, it is, and all the normal signs and laws apply. What it also is, however, is traversable. If you have a vehicle that cannot go around it, because it is too large, then you're allowed to go over it.

Re: [talk-au] Aligning steets

On 20/09/12 18:37, Stephen Hope wrote: On 20 September 2012 09:41, Ross Scanlon mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: Yes it is a small roundabout as you can not legally drive over it unless it is impractical to do so. The vehicle in the street view is clearly about to drive

Re: [talk-au] Aligning steets

On 19/09/12 19:28, Michael James wrote: On 09/19/2012 04:35 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: They are not mini-roundabouts if you can not drive over them. Look here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmini_roundabout Also read the Australian Tagging Guidelines here

Re: [talk-au] Tasmanian Survey Marks

something that will enable me to check my Garmin 62s' accuracy and give the ability to align Bing when I find them on the ground providing that they can be seen from Bing. Be great if they are in nice circles of I doubt if you'll see them on bing as most survey points are way too small. You'd p

Re: [talk-au] Aligning steets

They are not mini-roundabouts if you can not drive over them. Look here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmini_roundabout Also read the Australian Tagging Guidelines here: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines mini_roundabout is not determined by size. Aus

Re: [talk-au] Introduction

On 29/07/12 00:58, Andrew Allison wrote: Hello: I'm doing some arm chair mapping of Broome and surrounding area from Canada. I'd appreciate a quick review from someone more familiar with the local area. I might be mistaking dirt tracks for dried creek beds. Any mentoring would be

Re: [talk-au] Redaction progress

On 20/07/12 09:43, Simon Poole wrote: As all probably know we have two large areas where data had to be removed, Poland and Australia besides a number of smallish hotspots. I would think it would be a really good idea to set up a HOT tasking server (no idea about it inner workings and if it ma

Re: [talk-au] User hardsoft's remapping attempts

Maybe you need to send them a message directly and point them to these pages: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editing_Standards_and_Conventions http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice Cheers Ross On 08/04/12 07:01, Michael James wrote: I would have introduced myself normally but

Re: [talk-au] Effect of license change

All none odbl data will be removed from the database. They items may not have been deleted and recreated they only have to have been modified by a user that is declined to be non-compliant. Cheers Ross On 28/03/12 07:20, Ben Kelley wrote: Hi. I see there are dates now on the OSM blog for th

Re: [talk-au] New Australian Aerial Imagery

The positional accuracy seems to be excellent. I have already used the imagery to add a few missing railway line sections in Western Australia. It takes a little while to get used to the imagery being grayscale. In JOSM I’ve found it helpful to add some colour to the imagery by overlaying the imag

Re: [talk-au] 1st few silly question

On 25/01/12 19:14, Don Thomas wrote: 1/ In our area there are a number of small sections of road subject to flooding, generally they are at small bridges/ causeways and the like. I can't work out how they should be marked, can some one advice me please? Are these fords or just sections of road

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

On 09/01/12 13:47, Richard Weait wrote: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: On 09/01/12 11:51, Richard Weait wrote: Shall I revert? I think it would be best if you reverted. Done. You want to take a go at clearing some of these up? Are they maxspeed:source? I just

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

On 09/01/12 11:51, Richard Weait wrote: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 9 January 2012 13:12, Richard Weait wrote: I've removed the maxspeed tags from about 1000 roads in Redcliffe (Brisbane) with changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10338587 Hi,

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed removal

I've removed the maxspeed tags from about 1000 roads in Redcliffe (Brisbane) with changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10338587 Hi, Can you just explain this a little bit further? My understanding is it is a pretty specific set of these maxspeed changes we are cu

Re: [talk-au] Apology and Re: Mass revert now??

On 08/01/12 11:11, Peter Watson wrote: If a way is cut to add a bridge or whatever the second part becomes yours as V1 but the nodes will still be the original contributors. Hence a seemingly good way with red nodes. This is outlined on the wiki under remapping. This is new information, ie the

Re: [talk-au] Apology and Re: Mass revert now??

On 08/01/12 08:20, Nick Hocking wrote: David wrote "I can always retag from my records after the split" Hi David, It does seem that most of your work will survive. Those maxspeed edits done by bots (under the userid of JohnSmith or Rosscoe) will disappear without harm in April. A lot of them ar

Re: [talk-au] Back in editing - Tracks and 4wd areas

On 06/01/12 17:05, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: Ok so if your mapping every 10m and the first 10m is 2wd and then the next is 4wd the remainder of the track becomes 4wd_only. What about coming from the other end? Well imaging driving 29.980 km

Re: [talk-au] Back in editing - Tracks and 4wd areas

But not what constitutes a 4WD-only track, or how to indicate the difference between 4WD-only signposted and "I don't think a 2WD can drive here", which as I've pointed out isn't accurate, or how to indicate only modified vehicles with diff locks, upgraded suspension and winches are suitable, or h

Re: [talk-au] Back in editing - Tracks and 4wd areas

On 05/01/12 18:47, Sam Couter wrote: Ross Scanlon wrote: To me this is really odd. If the track is 30km long and there is 1km of 4wd only then is not this track all 4wd_only. As without a 4wd you will not be able to go from one end to the other in a 2wd. Only if the track has no other

Re: [talk-au] Back in editing - Tracks and 4wd areas

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: How should I mark 4wd trails? Thanks, highway=track; surface=unpaved; if 4wd only then also add 4wd_only=yes From experience I've found this is really hard to determine. Often the road quality varies and I don't really want to subdivide 30km

Re: [talk-au] Indian Ocean Drive south of Cervantes

Hi, Although you are probably correct, I'd suggest you don't modify this until someone with local knowledge looks at it and/or confirms with you this is correct. It also looks that this may be some more vandalism by Q4004. Cheers Ross On 31/12/11 01:25, Michael wrote: Hi all, at present,

Re: [talk-au] Remapping Sydney's railways

The nodes would be fine if not from a ct-declining contributor. If not then they need to be replaced. Cheers Ross On 23/12/11 14:31, Ben Johnson wrote: Thanks Ben that's a great idea. I'll keep whatever nodes I can and extrapolate from there. I really didn't want this raising old wounds, no

Re: [talk-au] I deleted a few locality boundaries...

On 19/12/11 19:24, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 19 December 2011 11:50, Ross Scanlon mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: As I said and it's been said many times before other items should not be attached to boundaries. If a boundary IS a coastline, sharing a way isn't wrong.

Re: [talk-au] I deleted a few locality boundaries...

On 19/12/11 08:38, Ben Kelley wrote: What happens where the current boundaries have been edited since the initial import? e.g. Where the boundary follows some geographical feature that is difficult to survey, like a river. Often the river tags have been added to the ABS data way. Removing the b

Re: [talk-au] I deleted a few locality boundaries...

Yep, quite true. That said, given the complete failure of the most other government agencies to release the real gazetted boundaries under a free license, having the ABS data I think is better than nothing, unless you can obtain more fine grain data from on the ground surveys. Licensing aside (a

Re: [talk-au] I deleted a few locality boundaries...

On 18/12/11 17:07, Sam Wilson wrote: Yes, I've often wondered the same: if they're officially defined as following particular roads etc. and then those roads move, do the boundaries move also? No. Do a search through the archives of the list and you'll find this somewhere. Also, there seem

Re: [talk-au] I deleted a few locality boundaries...

On 18/12/11 16:43, Andrew Harvey wrote: Where do these "official gazetted boundaries" come from? On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: Wait for an import of the oficial gazetted boundaries. Australian Bureau of Statistics C

Re: [talk-au] I deleted a few locality boundaries...

Wait for an import of the oficial gazetted boundaries. There's been many a discussion of this over the years and boundaries should not be attached to roads etc as these can change and the boundaries do not necessarily change. Cheers Ross On 18/12/11 13:43, El Segundo Can't win wrote: I del

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

polite and required. Ian On Dec 15, 2011 5:16 PM, "Ross Scanlon" mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

Problem with this is that you are breaching copyright. This is the same as what the user did with the data in Sydney and it was removed by the data working group. It's also what Frederik was discussing on the talk list in regards to NE2. You are not resolving the issue of the original data be

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

That's fine so long as you are not transferring any tags from the original way. See Frederik's comments to NE2 re this, on the osm-talk list. Mind you, you've got a lot to do in AU. Cheers Ross On 14/12/11 13:56, John Henderson wrote: As time and opportunity arises, I've started re-entering

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

ng to fix it but the pre licence change lockout prevented this " Ross, that's not my understanding of the situation at all. "On 25 August 2010 14:40, Ross Scanlon http://4x4falcon.com>> wrote: > John are you going to do this?" JohnSmith replied "I'm stu

Re: [talk-au] [OpenStreetMap] Re: Mapping intersections in OSM

On 29/11/11 09:59, Supt_of_Printing wrote: Maybe I'm missing something or don't have a full understanding > of the OSM applications. > By the way, I am not trying to be difficult, and certainly not > "payback" as Nick seems to suggest, just simply wanting > to get an accurate reflection of featu

Re: [talk-au] Intersections

I've forwarded their comments to my question to the list and to the data working group. Cheers Ross On 28/11/11 21:07, Nick Hocking wrote: Luke Wrote "I've backed you up on that one. All removed! I have no idea what their logic is behind (wrongly) mapping non-separated turning lanes in the fi

Re: [talk-au] [OpenStreetMap] intersections

Ok lets look at one intersection: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2&lat=-37.757227&lon=145.354724&zoom=18 This will open in potlatch 2 or you can view it here on the map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.75735&lon=145.355389&zoom=18 ways 136173430, 13673431, 13673419, 13

Re: [talk-au] Intersections

nd do some correcting around there tonight. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:55 PM, John Henderson mailto:snow...@gmx.com>> wrote: On 27/11/11 11:59, Ross Scanlon wrote: Just reading this: https://docs.google.com/a/__osmfoundation.org/document/__pub?id=__1zMm5p70Hd6d

[talk-au] Intersections

Just reading this: https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/pub?id=1zMm5p70Hd6dalxte42DVCGAW-C9Muy0pjHCZ8xWJT4w While people still continue to map garbage like these intersections: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.882577&lon=145.276362&zoom=18 then people will not want to use

Re: [talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

As per here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:direction mini_roundabouts are rendered by default as anti-clockwise so if they existed in Australia we would have to add direction=clockwise. Cheers Ross On 03/11/11 12:37, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 2 November 2011 23:54, Ross Scanlon

[talk-au] Mini Roundabouts.

Just came across this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.651744&lon=115.86618&zoom=18 There is no way in the world that this is a mini roundabout. Here is the nearmap imagery for it, I know it can't be used now for osm but using it here for reference: http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-32.65094

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

On 06/09/11 11:43, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 6 September 2011 13:21, Ross Scanlon mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com>> wrote: No. The route is still the Princes Highway as per here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/__wiki/Australian_Tagging___Guidelines#Route_Numbers

Re: [talk-au] Contribution review??

On 06/09/11 11:26, Ian Sergeant wrote: Hi Richard, Welcome to OSM. A few observations. Nearmap is no longer an acceptable source for OSM, since they do not allow traces from their imagery to be re-licensed. I notice at least one of your edits sourced nearmap, and that isn't allowed any more.

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

On 06/09/11 10:50, Ian Sergeant wrote: On 6 September 2011 07:13, Ben Kelley mailto:ben.kel...@gmail.com>> wrote: In general I think it is common that a highway has a different name when it goes through a town. Here the route continues, and will often be signposted with the route num

Re: [talk-au] [Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Marree, South Australia]

It would be nice if people passed on the info as per here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Vandalism That way these could have been reverted easily. Looking at them most will have problems as they have been modified by others. Please don't touch them, I'll arrange to have the r

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

Ian Sergeant wrote: As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. If someone gets updated names from survey, they can update. Until then the temptation to just add them from

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

Kevin & Ruth Sheather wrote: It’s not a full sized golf course from what I saw of it when I was through there in June this year. The problem is that as depicted it is appears as a direct copy from the commercial map. According to here: http://www.iseekgolf.com/courses/1557-coober-pedy-golf-

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

Neil Penman wrote: Yes the Coober Pedy golf course is almost identical to the google maps representation. Using google earth it does however seem to me that the golf course in that area (no grass of course) but the area marked on the maps only covers a small part of the total course, maybe the

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