Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-29 Thread Ian Sergeant
It looks like we've finished the NSW/Victoria border. There are probably a couple of bits I'll go back to and touch up, but otherwise looking good. So, what's next to complete the national/state borders? Ian. On 27 August 2012 18:10, Michael Krämer wrote: > 2012/8/27 Ian Sergeant >> >> The fi

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-28 Thread Nick Hocking
Ok - I have put the VIC/TAS border back to the correct latitude and "moved" Boundary Islet down to straddle it. Since I have no way of knowing where the border is, in relation to the island, I have given Victoria four times as much of it as Tasmania (in relation to their relative areas). I'm hopin

[talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-27 Thread Michael Krämer
2012/8/27 Nick Hocking > Interestingly OSM renderiings still don't have the slightly improved > outline of the original "Boundary Islet" that I edited in four days ago. > This is all very strange, I'm not sure what to do since I can't easily get > out there with a GPS unit. > This is due to the

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-27 Thread Nick Hocking
Leon wrote "Was looking at Victoria/Tasmania border and I have a feeling it's not quite right in OSM." Hi Leon, Yes, embarrasingly I've put the border on the wrong Island. In my defence - the 39.2 latitude passess about 160 metres south of Boundary Islet according to both Bing and Google imager

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-27 Thread Leon Kernan
Hi Nick, Was looking at Victoria/Tasmania border and I have a feeling it's not quite right in OSM. According to several sources, Boundary Islet is north east of Hogan Island, not north. OSM doesn't seem to have it traced at all yet. OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-39.2245&lon=146.9982&zoo

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-27 Thread Michael Krämer
2012/8/27 Ian Sergeant > The first real divergence I've come across is here, where the ABS > border follows the northern anabranch, but it seems clear from AGRI > that the southern watercourse is now the one with the most flow. I'd > like to declare this land as part of NSW. > > > http://agri.o

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-26 Thread Ian Sergeant
The Victorian/NSW border is still growing. The ABS data does seem a reasonable fit, but overall AGRI/Bing seems more accurate to me. The first real divergence I've come across is here, where the ABS border follows the northern anabranch, but it seems clear from AGRI that the southern watercourse

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-24 Thread Nick Hocking
John wrote "the border follows this fence-line (at least in the vicinity of the gate):" Thanks John I've moved the border closer to the gate, keeping the gate in NSW and the trail in ACT. The border looks a bit crooked to me now, I'll have to do some more work on it in a couple of weekends time.

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-24 Thread John Henderson
On 24/08/12 21:24, Nick Hocking wrote: One spot where my GPS traces don't indicate the border is on the extension to Hugh Mackay Crescent. John, does your information of this area (Bicentennial Natiuonal Trail) indicate where the border is? I deleted all my GPS data from that area. Way back

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-24 Thread Nick Hocking
Michael wrote "OK, I have just imported the missing parts of the ACT border (changeset #12765494)." Looks good Michael, I have moved some points on the straight bit using information from some of my GPS traces. One spot where my GPS traces don't indicate the border is on the extension to Hugh M

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-22 Thread Nick Hocking
OK - I've just completed the arduous task of reinstating the complete Victoria/Tasmania border! Also I'll check out the S.A Victoria border to see if it conforms with the disputed area. Nick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lis

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-22 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi Michael, Great. So I'll keep winding down the Murray. Can you import the crooked NSW/QLD part from ABS, and then we'll be done? Ian. On 22 August 2012 16:52, Michael Krämer wrote: > 2012/8/22 Ian Sergeant >> >> The Murray boundaries (from the east) are now half way to Lake Hume. >> I noti

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-21 Thread Michael Krämer
2012/8/22 Ian Sergeant > The Murray boundaries (from the east) are now half way to Lake Hume. > I notice that someone is making a start form the South Australian end > too. > That was me - I did some of the low hanging fruit by using already the existing riverbank to create the boundary. Michael

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-21 Thread Ian Sergeant
The Murray boundaries (from the east) are now half way to Lake Hume. I notice that someone is making a start form the South Australian end too. Lots of highways around this area that are unmapped or partially unmapped. I've been fixme/incomplete tagging on the way through, and connecting a road h

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-19 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 17 August 2012 17:43, Michael Krämer wrote: > Unfortunately the river is currently only defined by a single way. So this > would require manual tracing the southern bank from aerial images. And I > guess the legal definition of the bank for the border is probably different > from OSM's definit

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-17 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 17.08.2012 09:43, schrieb Michael Krämer: Given Nick's comments (assuming I've understood them correctly), lets start this approach with the ACT, and Nick can apply his tweaks post-import. Ok, I'll run the conversion and manually import the ACT data. Expect some results over the weekend.

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-17 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi Ian, 2012/8/17 Ian Sergeant > Given Nick's comments (assuming I've understood them correctly), lets > start this approach with the ACT, and Nick can apply his tweaks > post-import. > Ok, I'll run the conversion and manually import the ACT data. Expect some results over the weekend. > Last t

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-16 Thread Ian Sergeant
Hi, Given Nick's comments (assuming I've understood them correctly), lets start this approach with the ACT, and Nick can apply his tweaks post-import. Last time I looked parts of the Murray River border NSW/Vic were missing, and we should probably reconstruct these from the river itself, seeing t

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-16 Thread Michael Krämer
Ok, I'll try to summarize and comment the feedback: The ABS datasets are probably not first choice in terms of accuracy. In lack of a better alternative this would lead to the question whether to use what's available or leave the borders missing. I think this decision should be made by the Aus

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-15 Thread Nick Hocking
Michael wrote "When doing so I've noticed that most of the state and territory borders are gone. I could already reconstruct the straight parts from remaining segments and nodes." Hi Michael, Years ago I surveyed some points on the Black Allen line for OSM (NSW VIC border). At that time the b

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 15/08/12 06:01, Michael Krämer wrote: > Hi, > > first of all a quick introduction: I'm one of those armchair mappers > trying to assist in cleaning up the mess after the redation bot. > > When doing so I've noticed that most of the state and territory borders > are gone. I could already recons

Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-15 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 15 August 2012 06:01, Michael Krämer wrote: > first of all a quick introduction: I'm one of those armchair mappers trying > to assist in cleaning up the mess after the redation bot. Welcome. > When doing so I've noticed that most of the state and territory borders are > gone. I could already

[talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-14 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi, first of all a quick introduction: I'm one of those armchair mappers trying to assist in cleaning up the mess after the redation bot. When doing so I've noticed that most of the state and territory borders are gone. I could already reconstruct the straight parts from remaining segments a