Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels and Belgium

2013-11-26 Thread Julien Fastré
Le 26/11/13 19:06, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but I have always had a problem with mapping the communities in the first place since they are about the person and not the land. But there are people that want to map that. And if we're going to map them than we should try

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Glenn Plas wrote: > Need help ? Depending on the target language that is ;-) Only some more FR translations. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels and Belgium

2013-11-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 02:57:05PM +0100, Wouter Hamelinck wrote: > If you really want to use it as a geographical definition for the > communities, why would you use the one from art127 and not the ones > from articles 128 or 129? Especially 129 doesn't mention Brussels. Please note that 129 is a

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Glenn Plas
On 26-11-13 16:47, Ben Abelshausen wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Glenn Plas > wrote: sort of moves on the osm.be Almost online, only a few more block of content need translation. Need help ? Depending on the target language that is

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels and Belgium

2013-11-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 02:08:02PM +0100, Ben Laenen wrote: > On Monday 25 November 2013 23:37:41 Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > There should be a hole in the language area (which we don't have) > > and the region > > (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/53134), which seems > > to be the case, and

[OSM-talk-be] A different view on / usage of associatedStreet

2013-11-26 Thread Marc Gemis
In this thread https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/28479/using-multiple-associatedstreet-relations-for-one-streetsomeone is using an associatedStreet relation to identity the road segment that has to be used to get access to the property. He even invents names for the associatedStreet. This c

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Glenn Plas wrote: > sort of moves on the osm.be > Almost online, only a few more block of content need translation. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Glenn Plas
He might be the 'original author' but that doesn't mean he's the only one to react (or not). I'm expecting more reactions from the current mappers from that area who keep an eye on this using tools like whodidit ( http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ ) And it's not about being offended by

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > zors1843 is on this mailing list, so he will get in touch > ok! :-) zors? :-) Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://list

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Marc Gemis
zors1843 is on this mailing list, so he will get in touch m On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Ben Abelshausen wrote: > Ok then let's move them out of the way. Will start doing this this evening. > > I also think http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/zors1843 who is great a > landuse copied some of

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels and Belgium

2013-11-26 Thread Wouter Hamelinck
> Article 127 defines the Dutch-speaking community as covering the > Dutch language area plus the Bilingual Brussels-Capital area, and > the French-speaking community as covering the French language area > and Bilingual Brussels-Capital area. So the Bilingual > Brussels-Capital is covered by 2 com

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Ok then let's move them out of the way. Will start doing this this evening. I also think http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/zors1843 who is great a landuse copied some of those practices. Does somebody know him better or is there someone who already sent him messages? Because when we move this to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread eMerzh
Hi, the CLC* things , you don't have to worry, just remove the belgian part / or at least move it near the border... It's an "old" import and the datas are not precise at all, if i'm correct they were exctracted automatically by aerial photography (not by osm ) And i think in the import process the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 26 November 2013 14:16:18 Glenn Plas wrote: > On 26-11-13 12:19, Ben Abelshausen wrote: > > This relation is also a bit over the top. This is supposed to be > > 'landuse' but doesn't make sense. > > a bit ? That is way over the top imho. I would expect this to be > stopped by customs

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Glenn Plas wrote: > common sense is hard to program ;-) common sense is hard :-) Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Glenn Plas
On 26-11-13 14:22, Ben Abelshausen wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Glenn Plas > wrote: that's not even accurate for our side of the border. omfg. This constitutes a huge amount of work to create this beast, and I wonder why one would hurt hims

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Abelshausen
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Glenn Plas wrote: > that's not even accurate for our side of the border. omfg. This > constitutes a huge amount of work to create this beast, and I wonder why > one would hurt himself like that.. Now, how to go about removing this > totally useless relation. >

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Glenn Plas
On 26-11-13 12:19, Ben Abelshausen wrote: This relation is also a bit over the top. This is supposed to be 'landuse' but doesn't make sense. a bit ? That is way over the top imho. I would expect this to be stopped by customs at the border It took OSM a half minute to display that map

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels and Belgium

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Laenen
On Monday 25 November 2013 23:37:41 Kurt Roeckx wrote: > There should be a hole in the language area (which we don't have) > and the region > (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/53134), which seems > to be the case, and you can argue about the communitie > (http://www.openstreetmap.org/br

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Abelshausen
This relation is also a bit over the top. This is supposed to be 'landuse' but doesn't make sense. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1067268 I think we should push this kind of thing back to the french border. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen On Tue, Nov 26, 2

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Glenn Plas
This can be done without using a relation. Multipolygons are widely used for landuse but this is the first I see as a relation ... If the relation would have extra meaning to it (e.g. name="De trappistenstreek" ) it would have added value but as it stands, this is just adding complexity witho

[OSM-talk-be] Multipolygon relation for landuse (Farmland)?

2013-11-26 Thread Ben Abelshausen
What do you guys think about using multipolygons for landuse? An example here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3338083 I don't see the point of having this kind of relation. Maybe I'm missing something. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___