Re: [OSM-talk] stat pr0n

2011-04-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Or do we have something like that already? The only thing I look at is the changesets page and that's informative but kind of boring. Everyone can setup planet mirror and calculate any satistics. Just for

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Apr 2011, at 16:27, Mikel Maron wrote: http://brainoff.com/weblog/2011/04/11/1635 Meh – the great thing about being open is that you get to take the moral high ground because you're not stopping other people

Re: [OSM-talk] We Need to Stop Google's Exploitation of Open Communities

2011-04-11 Thread Ian Dees
Also relevant to this discussion (although not directly related to Mikel's post): Ed Parsons talks about the difference between OSM and MapMaker at minute 39 of this recording http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13672861 (incidentally this set of videos is also where someone from Google mentioned GMM

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

2011-04-10 Thread Ian Dees
Not sure if they read these, but https://github.com/MapQuest/MapQuest-Mapnik-Style/issues On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:25 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: Anyways, we really need to get MapQuest to render by relations (where available on a way) and only using a way ref's tags when

Re: [Talk-us] confirming public domain data

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Dees
I think the community has been satisfied if the copyright holder of the data gives explicit permission for the community to use the data in OSM. A verbal or e-mail message seems to have been OK in the past, but a post referencing someone in charge at the copyright holder (so 3rd parties can

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-31 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: [1] I actually think Google is being depressingly smart on this. They purposefully don't elucidate what you can and can't do. On the one hand, they want people to build geo apps and create indexable geodata on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-30 Thread Ian Dees
Try http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.1789745390415lon=-78.7073448300362zoom=21 (z=1 doesn't make it very interesting :)) I wonder if that's from a (gov't) digitization and subsequent (user) import... pretty wild! How the heck did you find that? On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Russ Nelson

Re: [OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

2011-03-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Ian Dees writes: Try http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.1789745390415lon=-78.7073448300362zoom=21 (z=1 doesn't make it very interesting :)) Yeah, cut-n-paste left off the '8' of '18'. I wonder if that's

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

2011-03-28 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: I, too, have been thinking that a core+layers approach would be useful in a number of contexts, primarily conflation between different

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Ian Dees
In this picture: http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpg http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpgWhat is the proposed tag for the highway=motorway_junction node? Are we tagging the node with exactly what

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

2011-03-28 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/28/2011 3:19 PM, Ian Dees wrote: In this picture: http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway-honolulu.jpg http://www.nomadchallenge.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/likelike-highway

[Talk-us] GSoC 2011 Mentor Signup

2011-03-27 Thread Ian Dees
Hi all, Google opened up the application process for GSoC mentors today. If you're interested in helping students and OSM this Summer please head over to our page on the GSoC website and submit an application: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/osm Let me know if you have

Re: [Talk-us] border screwup by ToeBee needs reverting

2011-03-25 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: ... I'd say that reverting the border fix changeset would be wrong, given the number of problems it fixed with the borders. I'd say it was definitely wrong to attempt to revert it over ToeBee's objections. +1 I would say

Re: [Talk-us] border screwup by ToeBee needs reverting

2011-03-25 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On 3/25/2011 7:49 AM, Ian Dees wrote: I would say that a better use of our time would be in creating boundary relations to fix the duplicated county/state boundaries. I would say it's more important to have

Re: [Talk-us] border screwup by ToeBee needs reverting

2011-03-25 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On 3/25/2011 8:37 AM, Ian Dees wrote: On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com mailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/25/2011 7:49 AM, Ian Dees wrote: I would say that a better

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would do by hand. I'm not really set

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD rivers

2011-03-20 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:18 PM, Ian Dees wrote: There were several clients that did not attempt to connect the ways of each NHD linestring so there are duplicated nodes and ways that touch but aren't joined. Hopefully fixing this is what

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Accepted into Google's Summer of Code

2011-03-19 Thread Ian Dees
Hi all, I wanted to let everyone know that OSM was accepted as an organization into Google's Summer of Code. You can participate by being a mentor, submitting a project idea, or being a student. Please e-mail me if you have any questions. If you have some ideas, please drop them on the wiki

[Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Accepted into Google's Summer of Code

2011-03-19 Thread Ian Dees
Hi all, I wanted to let everyone know that OSM was accepted as an organization into Google's Summer of Code. You can participate by being a mentor, submitting a project idea, or being a student. Please e-mail me if you have any questions. If you have some ideas, please drop them on the wiki

Re: [Talk-us] all our addresses are belong to you

2011-03-19 Thread Ian Dees
if you're working on a state/province/country so we don't get duplicates. On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: huh... please do, would be fun to look On 3/11/2011 3:01 PM, Ian Dees wrote: I did, but I held off because most of the data wasn't very useful (points

Re: [Talk-us] all our addresses are belong to you

2011-03-11 Thread Ian Dees
at addresses near me and help import On 3/2/2011 12:59 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Hi All, I'm planning on converting these to OSM format in the coming hours and dividing them up into chunks of some size that can be relatively easily checked by humans. I'll post to the list and to that page

[Talk-us] Summer of Code 2011 Ideas

2011-03-10 Thread Ian Dees
Hi all! As admin for OSM's application to Google's Summer of Code this year, I'd like to remind everyone that we're looking for some project ideas for students to work on here on the wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2011. The application deadline is roughly 24

Re: [Talk-us] all our addresses are belong to you

2011-03-02 Thread Ian Dees
Hi All, I'm planning on converting these to OSM format in the coming hours and dividing them up into chunks of some size that can be relatively easily checked by humans. I'll post to the list and to that page with the chunks later. -Ian On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:55 PM, flambe...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] High resolution off-leaf imagery of Virginia (VBMP)

2011-03-01 Thread Ian Dees
I don't understand what you mean by plain old TMS or WMS. TileStache/TileCache do offer TMS (and TileCache does WMS). On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: True, it is straightforward to get the tiles, and the specification is open [1]. The trouble lies with

Re: [Talk-us] High resolution off-leaf imagery of Virginia (VBMP)

2011-02-28 Thread Ian Dees
For those that can use non-standard HTTP ports, this data is available reprojected and tiled at http://cube.telascience.org:8000/va_2007/ JOSM URL is: tms:http://cube.telascience.org:8000/va_2007/${zoom}/${x}/${y}.jpg On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I'm not

Re: [Talk-us] Long-distance scenic roads

2011-02-23 Thread Ian Dees
They should be part of a route relation. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: In the US there are two long federally-maintained roads, the Blue Ridge Parkway and Natchez Trace Parkway, that were built for the sole purpose of sightseeing. Since they are

Re: [Talk-us] Long-distance scenic roads

2011-02-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On 2/23/2011 9:46 PM, Ian Dees wrote: They should be part of a route relation. Buh...? I'm asking what highway=* value they should have. Do they really, truly fit into one highway=* category along their entire

[Talk-us] Google Summer of Code 2011

2011-02-22 Thread Ian Dees
Hi all, I'm planning on submitting an application for the 2011 edition of Google's Summer of Code. The deadline for the organization application is March 11. In the meantime I'd love to invite anyone with ideas for projects university-aged students may enjoy working on to submit them on the

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing Virginia road centerlines

2011-02-21 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 19:25 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: What I like most about it is that you have a forced visual feedback - there is no way you can copy something into OSM without seeing what is actually there before you

Re: [Talk-us] Systematic problem with GNIS import and elevation tags

2011-01-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: [snip] I'm wondering if the person who imported GNIS originally has plans to change ele values that match their GNIS values by (current ele) * 0.3048 = (corrected ele) No. (I'm one of the people that imported GNIS

Re: [Talk-us] If anyone wants to sort out some damage (Hudson valley, New York)

2011-01-08 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Just noticed this:

Re: [Talk-us] US highway tagging (was Re: highway shields: get your kicks, where?)

2011-01-04 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: There was rough consensus that the current approach is more or less right, but disagreement on several specifics. Richard Weait suggested that further discussion probably wouldn't accomplish much without a sample

Re: [Talk-us] examples of US County Boundary relations

2011-01-01 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: can someone point me at examples of well formed County Boundary relations in the US? a quick search didn't show anything in the wiki, and the boundaries in my part of NY are basically a bunch of labeled ways with

[Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Dees
Hi Talk-US, First of all, can we agree as a group to hold off on importing or applying any TIGER 2010 data until we come up with a way to apply changes in a uniform and somewhat organized manner? I really don't want to run into the situation we currently have with NHD where everyone is doing the

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: First of all, can we agree as a group to hold off on importing or applying any TIGER 2010 data until we come up with a way to apply changes in a uniform

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: First of all, can we

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I really don't want to run into the situation we currently have with NHD where everyone is doing the conversion with different tools using different

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote: I'd start with getting a wiki page set up with the types of information that is stored in the TIGER 2010 shapefiles. Sounds like a great idea. I

[Talk-us] High Priority Corridors?

2010-12-12 Thread Ian Dees
It appears that User:NE2 has added a tag NHS_High_Priority_Corridor to hundred of ways around the country. Has anyone seen such an automated edit proposal anywhere on the mailing lists? Not only is this tag named inconsistantly with the rest of the tags we've used in the past (I'd rather see it

Re: [Talk-us] High Priority Corridors?

2010-12-12 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i concur, the NHS tagging should be done as route relations. They don't work as relations, since they're not always routes that can be

Re: [Talk-us] High Priority Corridors?

2010-12-12 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: OK, how's this for a relation? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1319303 While I'm happy to see them in a relation, I still question having such data in OSM. If there is no possible way for OSM mappers to

Re: [Talk-us] Address Node Import for San Francisco

2010-12-09 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: 3) Having looked at the data catalogue page, I do have concerns about the terms of use and think it's best to get SF to explicitly agree to allow OSM to use the data.

Re: [Talk-us] How to use 2010 NAIP imagery for tracing?

2010-12-04 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Well I've been using it in JOSM for a good chunk of the day now, editing I-70 in western Kansas and eastern Colorado along my drive to wherecamp. It has been working pretty well. Every once in a while it seems to slow

Re: [Talk-us] How to use 2010 NAIP imagery for tracing?

2010-11-26 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: The WMS URLs on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Agriculture_Imagery_Program don't have the latest imagery available from NAIP, which is downloadable as huge (1 gig) georeferenced MrSID files. Is there any

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 14:30 -0500, Ian Dees wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not talking about shield placement. I mean that the specific

Re: [Talk-us] Any interest in Google Code-In?

2010-10-29 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, At the Google Summer of Code mentors summit this past weekend Google asked us (the organizations that participated in Summer of Code

Re: [Talk-us] Any interest in Google Code-In?

2010-10-29 Thread Ian Dees
and fixes? Cheers, Adam On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, At the Google Summer of Code mentors summit this past weekend Google asked us (the organizations

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-29 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 15:17 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-29 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com

[Talk-us] Any interest in Google Code-In?

2010-10-28 Thread Ian Dees
Hi everyone, At the Google Summer of Code mentors summit this past weekend Google asked us (the organizations that participated in Summer of Code) to also participate in the Google Code-In project. The Code-In project is similar to the Summer of Code but for 13-18 year olds. The tasks are meant

Re: [Talk-us] Route Tagging Consensus

2010-10-25 Thread Ian Dees
Multiple is_in=* tags. I think this is the consensus for the rest of the world (at least I've seen it on a few other geometries around the world). On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Leroy E Leonard leeoncand...@gmail.comwrote: Are we talking a single is_in tag, which will bring back the string

Re: [Talk-us] Route Tagging Consensus

2010-10-24 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: Since there's more agreement around the US:ST:County approach, are there objections to just documenting that in the wiki? I disagree that there is agreement about this approach. As I've mentioned a couple times, we need to

Re: [Talk-us] About TIGER ways in Kansas

2010-10-24 Thread Ian Dees
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 10/24/10 11:12 PM, Mike N. wrote: Mike, are you specifically interested in Arkansas? The state level data might be better than TIGER and the state is very interested in getting it into OSM. I was researching

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Craig Hinners cr...@hinnerspace.comwrote: On 10/15/2010 09:44 PM, Richard Welty wrote: Sans prefices, the highway=motorway where US Highway 10, Wisconsin Highway 66, and Interstate Highway 39 run together would have ref=10;66;39. Not very useful for

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Prefix information should not go in OSM. If a renderer wants to display a prefix somehow, then they can go look it up based on other information

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-23 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On 10/23/2010 05:00 PM, Mike N. wrote: should be using reply to mailing list and not reply to all. The former has been around in modern mailers not politically motivated to do the wrong things for about 10 years

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread Ian Dees
I agree with Richard but I don't want to feed the trolls by responding (which is the policy of several other mailing list readers I know). On Oct 21, 2010 4:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21,

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-19 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 10/19/2010 04:00 PM, Anthony wrote: What project would you recommend? I'm looking for a project that creates and provides free geographic data such as street maps to anyone who wants them. Not one that makes maps in

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-19 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com writes: For example, Kansas highway 18: type = route route = road network = US:KS ref = 18 (optional?) symbol=* tag Also an optional wikipedia link. There does seem to be

Re: [Talk-us] Do City Labels look funny to you?

2010-10-19 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: Tom Hughes, OSM contributor and infrastructure guru has written an interesting summary of why some part of OSM can look strange. http://compton.nu/2010/10/city-labels-in-openstreetmap/ Sounds like a good project for a bot to

Re: [Talk-us] Do City Labels look funny to you?

2010-10-19 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: - Support for route relations Why should this be US-specific? Canada certainly has the same sort of route system as the US, and many European

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On 10/15/2010 05:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Ian Dees ian.dees-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-18 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Talk-us] State Route relations (was: Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns))

2010-10-16 Thread Ian Dees
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Peter Budny pet...@gatech.edu wrote: So far, it seems to be something like type=route route=road network=US:NY - state abbreviation ref=87 - number only symbol=* or for county roads, network=US:NY:Albany - full county name As I pointed out

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i have created a page for a US Tagging working group here:

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: ...discussions on the mailing list tend to wander all over the place and lead to no conclusions or decisions being made. If we meet in a phone

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: == Inconsistent State Prefixes == I wish there was a better (simpler) way to consistently tag the state and county shields but I do not have one. I think it needs to be done though. Compared to the rest of the world, I

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I made that one up (CO for County). Yes, CTH probably makes more sense but isn't that pretty specific? Do all states use that verbiage

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think we should be storing any prefix as part of the network=* or ref=* tags (thus my suggestion for network=us_route/state_route

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.netwrote: On 10/15/10 6:06 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I made that one up (CO for County

Re: [Talk-us] Highway Tagging Consensus to Improve OSM (and address some of 41 latitude's concerns)

2010-10-15 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I briefly mentioned the is_in=* tag earlier. County road 1 in Albany County would have network=county_road,is_in:county=Albany while

Re: [Talk-us] tagging a national forest boundary

2010-09-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I'm importing the USFS data for the Ocala National Forest boundary

Re: [Talk-us] tagging a national forest boundary

2010-09-30 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think you should imply that there is a natural=forest boundary logically separate from the National Forest's boundary. Assuming you're

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences

2010-09-22 Thread Ian Dees
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2011/Bid/Denver-Ian On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, One of the topics discussed tonight during the US Chapter board meeting was the possibility of making a bid for the international State of the Map conference in 2011. We

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences (Peter Batty)

2010-09-10 Thread Ian Dees
9, 2010 at 22:34, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I'm digging this idea... is there anyone that would be interested in starting a bid document or page on the wiki for Boulder or Denver? Not that we have to officially submit it but it would be helpful to at least get these ideas down on paper

[Talk-us] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Re: [CrisisCommons] URGENT BAY AREA NEED - volunteer mappers tomorrow

2010-09-10 Thread Ian Dees
Just in case the mailing lists don't overlap enough to catch everyone: -- Forwarded message -- From: Deborah Shaddon dshad...@comcast.net Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:58 PM Subject: [CrisisMappers] Re: [CrisisCommons] URGENT BAY AREA NEED - volunteer mappers tomorrow To:

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences

2010-09-09 Thread Ian Dees
be great if people could make both events. Leslie -- *From:* Peter Batty pe...@ebatty.com *To:* Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com *Cc:* talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Talk-us@openstreetmap.org *Sent:* Wed, September 8, 2010 8:41:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences (Peter Batty)

2010-09-09 Thread Ian Dees
I'm digging this idea... is there anyone that would be interested in starting a bid document or page on the wiki for Boulder or Denver? Not that we have to officially submit it but it would be helpful to at least get these ideas down on paper somewhere. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Hurricane

Re: [Talk-us] What would you want done with TIGER 2010?

2010-08-24 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.eduwrote: Anyway If the 2010 has block-face-level address ranges, it would be good to upload the streets as block edges rather than long ways spanning several blocks, to make it easier to work with the address ranges. (so the

Re: [Talk-us] What would you want done with TIGER 2010?

2010-08-24 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: On a smaller scale, I don't know. Pretty much all the TIGER data I've ever seen is surpassed in quality by local county/state data. So if you're going to import county by county, why bother with TIGER? Not all states /

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Ian, Ian Dees wrote: I got the impression after SotM US that there was a huge interest in doing imports correctly. For me, correctly means the following: 0. Discuss with community (don't import if no community

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: A toolset like this would let a community grow around the import process - letting OSM get the good data that's out there whilst making sure there's a community there to maintain it. Good ideas. Also, If one of the

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Lord-Castillo, Brett blord-casti...@stlouisco.com wrote: Once I get our data uploaded into ESRI Community Basemaps (which is a simpler process, has technical support, and will accept and integrate our authoritative data even without an editor community), I'm

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Lord-Castillo, Brett blord-casti...@stlouisco.com wrote: Just thought I would add that both the Google and ESRI programs allow for community edits, which we can get back out into our systems. Community BaseMaps even makes the data directly available to end

Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Joe Woycke woy...@gmail.com wrote: [...] if osm chooses to exclude the local govt and refuse their data they will lose out on a rich data source that is better than the tiger data that osm currently uses as its base data. Again, no one is suggesting that we

[Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

2010-08-16 Thread Ian Dees
I got the impression after SotM US that there was a huge interest in doing imports correctly. For me, correctly means the following: 1. Get permission 2. Convert to OSM format 3. Compare to existing data 4. Upload to the data I think a tool could be made that automated most of these steps (or at

[Talk-us] Live Stream of SotM US

2010-08-14 Thread Ian Dees
After a half mile walk to CVS and an unsuccessful attempt at writing a driver for the $10 USB camera I bought, I just installed Ustream on my phone. Here's the link: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/state-of-the-map-us-live No guarantees on uptime :-).

Re: [Talk-us] National Wetlands Inventory

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Dees
, but they serve two different purposes/missions. SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:12, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if our friends at the USGS know about this data. If they do, there must be a good reason why

Re: [Talk-us] Changeset 5393406

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Dees
I think I remember Eric (ebwolf: owner of said changeset) mentioning something about a bulk upload a few weeks ago. I bet he'll respond to your OSM message if he doesn't see this thread. -- Forwarded message -- From: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at

Re: [Talk-us] Changeset 5393406

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Dees
I'm have a private tilecache for NAIP and am working on a public one right now. I'll publicize it when I get it working. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com wrote: I know this seems like a silly question, coming from me and all, but where are you getting your NAIP

Re: [Talk-us] USGS imagery (was: Changeset 5393406)

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.netalan_mintz%2b...@earthlink.net wrote: It sure would be nice if these individual image sets were available through a common interface, instead of having to find/add all the separate links. 1) Check out

Re: [Talk-us] Changeset 5393406

2010-08-12 Thread Ian Dees
I've noticed lots of leaf-on imagery in my WMS URL in the Wisconsin and Minnesota area (which were flown pretty recently), so I wonder if that decision was already made. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. I'll have to do a little sleuthing tomorrow

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-10 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Jaak Laineste jaak.laine...@gmail.com wrote: Map is a hand-written 2D picture of the world. It is definitely more a kind of art than a digital photo in flickr, there is more subjectivity and

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-10 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Patrick Kilian o...@petschge.de wrote: Hi, There is a big difference between pointing out the current form of the contributor terms means that we will loose 80% of the data in Australia. Do you really want to proceed? and jumping into every thread and

[OSM-talk] Blah blah blah

2010-08-10 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, SteveC wrote: Maybe a line saying mailing list posts should follow the topic of the list Fine Talk= talk and when you get plenty you are upset? Talk is not how I would describe what's happening on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

2010-08-10 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 03:04:00PM -0600, SteveC wrote: Someone mentioned that in addition there should be some topic guidelines per mailing list too […] I think this should be a general code of conduct, and each

Re: [OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

2010-08-09 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the cases you are probably familiar with involve simple lists of telephone numbers and subscribers. The moment you add even the slightest originality to a collection of facts then it become eligible for copyright. Can you

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-06 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:14 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 11:09 AM, John Smith wrote: On 7 August 2010 03:04, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Sounds like you've never been to court. Who's right or wrong is a secondary consideration here, the first order of

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-06 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:21 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 7 August 2010 03:14, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: If they have several orders of magnitude more money then probably the cost/benefit tradeoff would suggest throwing out the data is the better option. Even

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