Re: [Talk-lv] Kartēšanas pasākums Siguldā

2012-04-17 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
O , 2012-04-17 17:35 +0300, Rich rakstīja: On 04/17/12 12:03, Viesturs Zarins wrote: Count me in. taa, nu ta vismaz 3 mees esam, jaataisa :) kaa ar datumiem, kuros tiek visvairaak cilveeki ? es laikam varu pielaagoties visaadi. it kaa 28. laikam daljai ir darbadiena ? Totālākā skrūve,

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: Ian Bruseker [mailto:ian.bruse...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:31 PM To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad? On 2012-04-15, at 6:37 PM, Steve Singer st...@ssinger.info wrote: I also feel that not of all data sources are

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-17 Thread Andrew Allison
Hello: I would take from this discussion that canvec data needs to be imported into the white spaces of Canada. I may be missing some historical experience / discussion of this process. Part of the fun aspect of OSM is finding things wrong on the map and correcting it. I

[Talk-ca] STM opens its data

2012-04-17 Thread Tim FitzGerald
Hi guys and gals, I haven't looked into this at all, but it's exciting to see the Société de transport de Montréal, the local transit authority, open it's scheduling data. I assume in here we will also find positioning data of all the bus stops. A possible source of import?

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-17 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour Paul, and all osmers Let me summarize the situation regarding NRCan-Canvec data. Good news... - about a thousand files (maps) are brand new around Ellesmere Island - Road network is updated every year for most of the provinces Old stories... - YK,NT,NU were checked for changes about 10

Re: [Talk-ca] STM opens its data

2012-04-17 Thread Pierre Béland
Tim As I understand it, the second paragraph of the text below restricts right. Could we interpret this as being in accordance with ODbl? Free access to STM Data In accordance with the provisions of these terms, the STM permits the use of its Data, without charge or exclusivity, from and in

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-17 Thread James A. Treacy
Daniel, As always, your work is really appreciated. Would it be possible, for at least some of the data, to have the age of the data included in the releases? While age by itself is not necessarily indicitave of the quality of the data, it is a factor that could help users when deciding to use it

[Talk-cz] sotm 2013

2012-04-17 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Zdravím, neví někdo, v jaký fázi je proces rozhodování, kde bude State of the Map v roce 2013 ? Jáchym -- Jachym Cepicky Help Service - Remote Sensing s.r.o. jachym.cepi...@gmail.com | jac...@hsrs.cz http://les-ejk.cz | http://bnhelp.cz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[OSM-talk-fr] Nouveau sur la liste

2012-04-17 Thread Louis-Julien de la Bouëre
Bonjour, Ancien et nouveau à la fois, c'est avec plaisir que je reviens sur cette liste. Jusqu'à la fin de l'année dernière, j'étais animateur multimédia sur la commune de Plouarzel (29) sur laquelle nous avions fait des cartoparties et quelques projets sympas autour d'OSM. Je travaille

[OSM-talk-fr] Cartopartie à Gignac (34) vendredi prochain

2012-04-17 Thread Louis-Julien de la Bouëre
Bonjour à toutes et tous, Nous faisons un appel à la communauté OSM pour participer à jeu de cartes en garrigue, une cartopartie organisée le vendredi 20 avril (c'est bientôt) à Gignac (34) à partir de 12h. Objectifs : compléter la carte de Gignac et commencer la carte du Causse D'Aumelas.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cartopartie à Gignac (34) vendredi prochain

2012-04-17 Thread Nicolas Moyroud
Bonjour Louis-Julien, Ravi de te retrouver sur la liste aprs avoir fait ta connaissance aux rencontres SIG-la-lettre. :-) Cette carto-partie qui va se drouler juste ct de chez moi m'intresse normment. Mais un vendredi aprs-midi avec un dbut 12h, je

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osm.fr limites-communales-a-importer

2012-04-17 Thread Pierre Touzard
Bonjour, Je constate que ces statistiques ne sont pas disponible pour les DOM. Est-ce normal ? Pierre T. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/osm-fr-limites-communales-a-importer-tp5640142p5646103.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] GR et parc du mercantour

2012-04-17 Thread Romain MEHUT
Bonjour, Message envoyé... Romain Le 7 avril 2012 07:19, Romain MEHUT romain.me...@gmail.com a écrit : Je veux bien mais je suis off pour le weekend... Romain Le 6 avril 2012 22:50, hamster hams...@suna.fdn.fr a écrit : Le 06/04/2012 22:41, Christian Quest a écrit : Il faut le

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] osm.fr limites-communales-a-importer

2012-04-17 Thread Christian Quest
Je m'appuie sur une base France Métropolitaine... mais ce n'est pas définitif ! Le 17 avril 2012 11:33, Pierre Touzard pierretouz...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Je constate que ces statistiques ne sont pas disponible pour les DOM. Est-ce normal ? Pierre T. -- View this message in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] proposition de cartopartie à Saint-Denis le samedi 16 ou le 23 juin

2012-04-17 Thread Marc Sibert
Le 17/04/2012 12:40, Romain MEHUT a écrit : Bonjour, Je m'étonne que personne n'ait répondu à cette proposition? Romain Le 14 avril 2012 12:09, Anne-Marie Ammorice ammori...@gmail.com mailto:ammori...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous Je suis une nouvelle abonnée à la liste. J'ai

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OSM-Nantes] [OPENMAPSTREET.ORG] Renouveler, Transfert ou abandon ?

2012-04-17 Thread Philippe Verdy
Il n'est jamais trop tard tant que tu en es le titulaire. Si tu effectue la demande de transfert vers quelqu'un c'est que le nouveau titulaire a payé le renouvellement. Ensuite cela peut prendre un peu de temps, mais un transfert prend effet immédiatement dès qu'il a été validé par son ancien

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Lot Talk-fr, Vol 69, Parution 85

2012-04-17 Thread Anne-Marie Ammorice
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] proposition de cartopartie à Saint-Denis le samedi 16 ou le 23 juin

2012-04-17 Thread didier2020
Le mardi 17 avril 2012 à 12:40 +0200, Romain MEHUT a écrit : Bonjour, Je m'étonne que personne n'ait répondu à cette proposition? pas positivement ... en congès ! Romain Le 14 avril 2012 12:09, Anne-Marie Ammorice ammori...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour à tous Je suis

[OSM-talk-fr] forum: Bonjour de Vincennes

2012-04-17 Thread forum
Le message suivant : ## Bonjour à tous. J'ai redécouvert OSM il y a quelques semaines et j'ai beaucoup de question que je vous soumettrai. (Multipolygones, classification des routes, zonage, etc) Je suis habitant de Vincennes dans le 94, mais je mappe principalement aux alentours des

[OSM-talk-fr] Maison funéraire

2012-04-17 Thread nono
Salut Je cherchais à taguer ce type de PoI. N'ayant rien trouvé dans josm, je suis allé voir le wiki. Pas de bol, pas de wiki fr pour ce type de PoI. Du coup, je me suis rabattu sur la version anglaise et j'ai recopié cette page originale pour en créer une version française (donc wiwki fr).

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Maison funéraire

2012-04-17 Thread nono
Le mercredi 18 avril 2012 à 07:04 +0200, nono a écrit : Salut Je cherchais à taguer ce type de PoI. N'ayant rien trouvé dans josm, je suis allé voir le wiki. Pas de bol, pas de wiki fr pour ce type de PoI. Du coup, je me suis rabattu sur la version anglaise et j'ai recopié cette page

Re: [OSM-ja] アームチェアマッピングのガイドラインとその功罪

2012-04-17 Thread yuu hayashi
はやしです。 「アームチェアマッピング」に関連する「Using Imagery」のWikiページを訳してみました。  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Using_Imagery ご参考まで。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja

Re: [OSM-ja] アームチェアマッピングのガイドラインとその功罪

2012-04-17 Thread Shu Higashi
良い記事ですね。 索引ページにも追加しました。 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Index#.E5.9C.B0.E4.B8.8A.E8.AA.BF.E6.9F.BB.E3.83.BB.E3.83.87.E3.83.BC.E3.82.BF.E5.8F.8E.E9.9B.86 東 12/04/17 yuu hayashi hayashi@gmail.com: はやしです。 「アームチェアマッピング」に関連する「Using Imagery」のWikiページを訳してみました。  

Re: [OSM-ja] Bing の年月について (Re: Bing画像更新中?)

2012-04-17 Thread Shu Higashi
東です。 sourceに撮影日付(年月)も入れた方が良いという意見はtalk(ML)に投げたことはありますが 特に反応はありませんでした。 potlatch2だとショートカットキー「B」を押すだけで背景画像名が以下のように セットされるということもあり source=Bing わざわざ日付を付けないタグ付けがいちばん多いのだろうと思います。 ルールとしては基本的にはこれで良いと思います。 個人的な思いとして(コミュニティ全体で認知されたルールではありませんが) Bing画像は差し替えがあるので、画像とマッピング内容の どちらが正しい(新しい)か判断する手掛かりとして

[OSM-ja] JA:Hiking | ハイキング の翻訳

2012-04-17 Thread yuu hayashi
はやしです。 「JA:Hiking | ハイキング」のWikiページを訳してみました。  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Hiking ご参考まで。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja

[OSM-ja] Bing の年月について (Re: Bing画像更新中?)

2012-04-17 Thread Hayasaka Satoshi
早坂です。 自分は以下のページにてsourceの付け方を知りましたが、 そこでは年月に範囲がある場合には古い日付を、 となっていたのでそのようにしておりました。 参考までに。  megumeruさんの初心者でもできるOpenStreetMap  http://openstreetmap.jp/node/8 以上です。 (2012/04/17 20:38), Shu Higashi wrote: 東です。 sourceに撮影日付(年月)も入れた方が良いという意見はtalk(ML)に投げたことはありますが 特に反応はありませんでした。

Re: [OSM-ja] Bing の年月について (Re: Bing画像更新中?)

2012-04-17 Thread Yoichi SEINO
清野です。 かつて議論がありましたね。 確かその時に書式は source=Bing, 2011-04 で、期間が表示されている場合は古い方を書く、 というルールだったと思います。 ただ、僕個人としては、 http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bing/ で表示される、 「Dec/2006-Dec/2007」等の表示をそのまま記入していました。 期間が示されている場合は期間をそのまま書き写すほうが良いかな、と考えております。 年月の表記方法は揺れているようですが、 sourceタグのBing自体が、Microsoftから必須事項として強制されていない、

Re: [OSM-ja] Bing の年月について (Re: Bing画像更新中?)

2012-04-17 Thread Shu Higashi
期間が示されている場合は期間をそのまま書き写すほうが良いかな、と考えております。 +1 2012年4月17日20:38 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 sourceに撮影日付(年月)も入れた方が良いという意見はtalk(ML)に投げたことはありますが 特に反応はありませんでした。 potlatch2だとショートカットキー「B」を押すだけで背景画像名が以下のように セットされるということもあり source=Bing わざわざ日付を付けないタグ付けがいちばん多いのだろうと思います。

Re: [OSM-ja] Bing の年月について (Re: Bing画像更新中?)

2012-04-17 Thread Nobuyuki Maruichi
丸市です。 瀬戸さん、お調べいただき、ありがとうございます。 また、皆さんいろいろな意見ありがとうございます。 私自身も、Wikiページおよび実際にデータ(CloudMade)を調べてみて 決まった形式が無いように思い、質問させていただきました。 (2012年04月17日 14:56), Toshikazu SETO wrote: さしあたって、2011年12月31日にダウンロードした 仙台周辺のwayでチェックしたところ 複数の年次にわたる記述がなされているものは Bing, 2008/10-2008/11(179/22648)  Bing,2008-10,2008-11 

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-17 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-04-16 20:41, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you can simply add odbl=clean if there's nothing ungood about the object (e.g. it was

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Werner Poppele
Gregory Arenius wrote: Hi, Imported data turns down potential new mappers. I really disagree with this statement. I think the mappers would be turned off if we didn't import it when available. So you have all 250,000 address points for the city but instead of using them you'd rather us go

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/17/2012 3:29 AM, Werner Poppele wrote: I totally agree with Frederik. Yes - imported data turns down new mappers. Have you ever seen those monster multipolygons ? I am sure a new mapper says: Forget that I personally tend to stop my contribution to OSM because of the very bad stuff I see

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Werner Poppele
Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/17/2012 3:29 AM, Werner Poppele wrote: I totally agree with Frederik. Yes - imported data turns down new mappers. Have you ever seen those monster multipolygons ? I am sure a new mapper says: Forget that I personally tend to stop my contribution to OSM because of

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/17/12 01:05, James Umbanhowar wrote: Being a reformed importer, I generally agree with the don't import rule. However, I have often heard this nugget and in my experience it is based on either anecdote or one set of simulations that assumed that individuals stop joining because they

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-17 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2012-04-16 20:41, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 9:18 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2012-04-16 14:06, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Or you

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/17/2012 4:26 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: And now assume there's a third city of equal size where *nothing* has been mapped at all... maybe I shouldn't speak for everyone but for me (and virtually every mapper I know) surely the city with data-but-no-mappers would be least appealing, far below

Re: [Talk-us] Excellent progress, u.s.

2012-04-17 Thread stevea
Sure, Alan. I'll try to help by explaining a core of my process, and you and others can take it from there. Great job - thanks for this. I'm sure it helps. Appreciate the kudos. We might all share like this when asked. This is called a workflow and workflows with specific numbered steps

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Dale Puch
Regarding Frederik's 4 points, plus the element duplication issue as reasons imports are bad: ALL are potentially true for any mapper especially new ones. It is just that a bad import can generate a lot more good/bad data at once. So yes, imports need more effort to insure good quality.

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com wrote: I think this point is controversial, so let's stick with some points that aren't: 1. In our history of imports, a very small percentage have been good. Compare a users early imports to their early mapping They aren't

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/17/2012 8:18 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: If a user manually surveys data, there is an assumption of timeliness and accuracy of that survey. That's not the case with imported data, despite oftentimes being stamped official. When I joined OSM I went through photos and notes I had taken

[Talk-us] Smooth shoulder intended for cycling

2012-04-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
I'm wondering what the best way would be to tag a good-quality shoulder that acts essentially as an undesignated bike lane, in that you can use it but it is not required. Current Florida DOT policy is to use these on rural roads, with marked bike lanes only when there is a lane to the right.

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: When I joined OSM I went through photos and notes I had taken since the late 1990s. There's no guarantee of timeliness here either. Certainly not as much as an import of city boundary data that has each annexation

Re: [Talk-us] Smooth shoulder intended for cycling

2012-04-17 Thread Kristian M Zoerhoff
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 09:15:49PM -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I'm wondering what the best way would be to tag a good-quality shoulder that acts essentially as an undesignated bike lane, in that you can use it but it is not required. Current Florida DOT policy is to use these on rural

Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83

2012-04-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/17/2012 9:23 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote: When I joined OSM I went through photos and notes I had taken since the late 1990s. There's no guarantee of timeliness here either. Certainly not as much as an import of

Re: [Talk-us] Smooth shoulder intended for cycling

2012-04-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/17/2012 9:43 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: Alternatively, maybe cycleway needs an unmarked lane setting for these situations, though that would imply the local authorities are intending for cyclists to use the shoulder, rather than just tolerating their presence (the usual situation). I

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