Re: [Talk-ca] OSM and Open Data Imports - Chicago Experience

2018-11-02 Thread Jonathan Brown
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Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread James
if anyone needs a TM or micro data service, I'm available for this On Fri., Nov. 2, 2018, 7:32 p.m. John Whelan This approach seems very sensible however Pierre has raised the issue of > poorly mapped buildings and we are aware that some were mapped in a > mapathon environment so whilst Ottawa

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread John Whelan
This approach seems very sensible however Pierre has raised the issue of poorly mapped buildings and we are aware that some were mapped in a mapathon environment so whilst Ottawa used a"leave existing buildings alone" approach is this an area where some judgement should be used?  and yes I am

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread Matthew Darwin
Of course. Could use the ottawa import approach:  "leave existing buildings alone". Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2018-11-02 7:03 p.m., OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: On Nov 2, 2018, at 3:58 PM, John Whelan wrote: So to paraphrase your reply. A centralised import

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread Matthew Darwin
I think we should identify who would like to be involved in import for each municipality.  (on a wiki page). On the page, identify roles, like: * coordinator * import data preparation * QA * import execution * data enrichment (commercial, residential, etc... tagging) * etc.. Then we

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Nov 2, 2018, at 3:58 PM, John Whelan wrote: > So to paraphrase your reply. A centralised import plan in the wiki which > says the data is approved for import and should be tackled in chunks of some > sort of region since we are a decentralized organization. Which I think is > similar to

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread John Whelan
So to paraphrase your reply.  A centralised import plan in the wiki which says the data is approved for import and should be tackled in chunks of some sort of region since we are a decentralized organization.  Which I think is similar to the way Task Manager works.  The project is broken

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Nov 2, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: > La rédaction d' une page wiki pour l'ensemble du Canada peut répondre aux > exigences du groupe Import de OSM. Mais l'organisation doit être > décentralisée. Je conviens qu'il est plus facile de rédiger un "plan d'importation" unique pour

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread Pierre Béland
Pour le Québec, je retrouve les données de plusieurs municipalitésMontréal, Longueuil, Repentigny, Shawinigan, Québec et Rimouski. Première observation rapide, aussi, elles sont de bonne qualité et proviennent je suppose des cadastres des municipalités. En milieu urbain, cela facilite beaucoup

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Database of Buildings / Base de données ouvertes sur les immeubles

2018-11-02 Thread Pierre Béland
Merci Javi Comme mon hébergeur est au Canada, cela serait surprenant.   Pierre Le vendredi 2 novembre 2018 17 h 15 min 56 s HAE, Javi Rodriguez a écrit : Hi Pierre, Maybe your internet provider has bad connections with Canadian/US carriers. I mirrored all the data for you.

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Database of Buildings / Base de données ouvertes sur les immeubles

2018-11-02 Thread Javi Rodriguez
Hi Pierre, Maybe your internet provider has bad connections with Canadian/US carriers. I mirrored all the data for you. Download it here: https://www.illot.cat/ODB/ Salutations, Javi___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Database of Buildings / Base de données ouvertes sur les immeubles

2018-11-02 Thread Pierre Béland
merci, ip... téléchargement ok, moins de 2min pour chaque fichier.   Pierre Le vendredi 2 novembre 2018 16 h 39 min 55 s HAE, Javi Rodriguez a écrit : Hi Pierre, I did not found any problem with the StatCan website. I mirrored those files only to test your connection. Test it:

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread John Whelan
That sounds like a reasonable approach. Thank you Cheerio John Begin Daniel wrote on 2018-11-02 4:19 PM: I would agree to one import plan with an appropriate validation mechanism. I am concerned that the buildings they provide in rural areas come from Canvec. Over the years I have

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread John Whelan
I know the City of Kingston are very interested in the project but they aren't the ones who can make the decision. Cheerio John James wrote on 2018-11-02 4:07 PM: From my initial glance at the data...seems pretty good and accurate(again I didn't check all the cities nor do I expect them all

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread James
Begin, these datasets are from the cities themselves, not canvec. Stats can is relicensing them under a common umbrella On Fri., Nov. 2, 2018, 4:20 p.m. Begin Daniel I would agree to one import plan with an appropriate validation mechanism. > I am concerned that the buildings they provide in

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Database of Buildings / Base de données ouvertes sur les immeubles

2018-11-02 Thread Javi Rodriguez
Hi Pierre, I did not found any problem with the StatCan website. I mirrored those files only to test your connection. Test it: https://www.illot.cat/ODB/BDOI_Quebec.zip https://www.illot.cat/ODB/ODB_Quebec.zip Salutations, Javi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, November 2, 2018 3:38

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread Begin Daniel
I would agree to one import plan with an appropriate validation mechanism. I am concerned that the buildings they provide in rural areas come from Canvec. Over the years I have deleted/modified thousands of them (Canvec buildings) and I would not like to see all of them coming back. Daniel

Re: [Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread James
>From my initial glance at the data...seems pretty good and accurate(again I didn't check all the cities nor do I expect them all to be having same level of accuracy) The two I've been eye balling are Kingston and Rimouski which seem to be very accurate at first assessment. If we do want to

[Talk-ca] Stats Canada new building outlines Open Data do we wish to import it?

2018-11-02 Thread john whelan
This is just a formal post to get a feel. In Ottawa the building outlines were of high quality and I feel have enriched the map. If we do should we consider it one project across the country or leave it to the local chapters to make the decision? I'm thinking that Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver

Re: [Talk-ca] Enablers and Barriers for Voluntary Participation in Crowdsourcing Platforms

2018-11-02 Thread john whelan
Your points are well taken but in this case when the building outlines are imported by someone like James and are of high quality to start with as they were in Ottawa then these concerns are less relevant. At the moment Stats Canada have released some building outline data under the Federal

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Database of Buildings / Base de données ouvertes sur les immeubles

2018-11-02 Thread Pierre Béland
Bonjour Alessandro Je rencontre depuis hier des problèmes à télécharger les fichiers pour le Québec (fr ou en). Je ne suis sans doute pas le seul et les navigateurs ne nous offrent pas d'outils pour reprendre les transferts interrompus ou bien diagnostiquer les problèmes, sinon message Échec de

Re: [Talk-ca] Enablers and Barriers for Voluntary Participation in Crowdsourcing Platforms

2018-11-02 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
On Nov 2, 2018, at 9:31 AM, John Whelan wrote: > My feeling is OpenStreetMap has two sides. The first is local adding local > knowledge to the map. The other I'll call armchair mapping. When Stats > Canada did the pilot it tapped the local Ottawa mappers who meet physically. Speaking from

Re: [Talk-ca] Enablers and Barriers for Voluntary Participation in Crowdsourcing Platforms

2018-11-02 Thread John Whelan
My feeling is OpenStreetMap has two sides. The first is local adding local knowledge to the map.  The other I'll call armchair mapping.  When Stats Canada did the pilot it tapped the local Ottawa mappers who meet physically. I would agree that amongst mappers with the most edits there is a