Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rovastar wrote: Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass, etc don't as far I I know appear on the ground however I think the some record should appear in OSM. I am worried about the trend in this case of placing them as the name of the road as what reference point would people use for these.

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Mann
I'd use alt_name. At least it's an established place to look for alternative stuff. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Rovastar wrote: Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass, etc don't as far I I know appear on the ground however I think the some record

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Roger Calvert
'description' might be an appropriate tag - after all that is what the phrase Foston Hat­ton Hilton Bypass actually is. Roger On 20/02/2013 08:30, Richard Mann wrote: I'd use alt_name. At least it's an established place to look for alternative stuff. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:17 AM,

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Hill
How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for example is copyright and so still needs to be released under a suitable licence. AFAIK local authorities are responsible for naming roads not the DfT. Cheers Chris John Baker rovas...@hotmail.com wrote: I had a response.

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread colin
An internet search for Fos­ton Hat­ton Hilton Bypass gives a good number of results from official sources, including parliament and highways.gov.uk The A650 Bingley Bypass/throughpass near me was recently given a name Sir Fred Hoyle Way and name signs at all the slip roads, so I added this to

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
There are no such signs on the road, it is just the A50. I travel along it every fortnight. I would agree that we change the tags to something else, such as official_name or similar. I am happy to volunteer. In the satnav senario long names such as this just confuse when the user does not see

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread SomeoneElse
Chris Hill wrote: How did the mapper get this info? What licence is it under? FoI for example is copyright and so still needs to be released under a suitable licence. AFAIK local authorities are responsible for naming roads not the DfT. (from OSM messages from the original mapper following

Re: [Talk-GB] Using UK postcode data to generate a heat map

2013-02-20 Thread David Fisher
Hi all, Thanks for all your help with this. Thought I should update. After getting confirmation of the validity of using the data, my friend and his colleagues successfully merged their postcode list with the CodePoint Open dataset and sent me the results. I then converted the

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Philip Barnes wrote: I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue is the insertion of soft-hyphens into the names so Hatton becomes Hat-ton. Not sure why, is he trying to make a satnav pronounce each syllable? Or copied and pasted from a document? cheers Richard --

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread John Baker
I have had more correspondence from Mauls. He is adamant that he is correct and that I don't know what I am doing (mainly because he has contributed way more than me and doing it a lot longer. 104k nodes me vs 140k node Maulsyeah way more and I started with this (did some minor stuff

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Colin Smale
Aha, it's Mauls is it... He is indeed very prolific, and adds a lot of missing details across the whole planet. However he never seems to disclose his sources, either in the source tag or in changeset comments. Colin On 2013-02-20 14:18, John Baker wrote: I have had more correspondence

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Dudley Ibbett
I am a novice when it comes to road names. I've probably only done a couple, if that, so apologies if I'm stating anything that is already well known. A friend was involved in the construction of these bypasses. I understand that the body for this was the Highways Agency and through their

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for five years and someone you'd never heard of sent you an unfriendly message

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Chris Hill
On 20/02/13 20:15, Kevin Peat wrote: On 20 Feb 2013 19:38, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com mailto:dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: ...I certainly wouldn't defend his attitude... I don't know Mauls from Adam but how would you feel if you had been contributing to the project for

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Kevin Peat
On 20 Feb 2013 21:14, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: ...He copied data from a local newspaper article to name a road wrongly... Mauls might be wrong in this case but the name of a road in the local paper isn't copyrighted. It's a basic fact, the newspaper didn't create it and they

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 15:01 +0100, Colin Smale wrote: Aha, it's Mauls is it... He is indeed very prolific, and adds a lot of missing details across the whole planet. However he never seems to disclose his sources, either in the source tag or in changeset comments. I have spotted that Mauls

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

2013-02-20 Thread Andrew
Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes: Philip Barnes wrote: I did briefly discuss this with Andy on IRC and the other issue is the insertion of soft-hyphens into the names so Hatton becomes Hat-ton. Not sure why, is he trying to make a satnav pronounce each syllable? Or