[Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
I keep coming across cases where marking the access to a way based on primary category will imply that the way is not suitable for use on foot. That becomes particularly interesting with barriers, as in those cases, the sidewalk may bypass the barrier. For concrete examples, I'll use Northwick

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread SomeoneElse
OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: I keep coming across cases where marking the access to a way based on primary category will imply that the way is not suitable for use on foot. That becomes particularly interesting with barriers, as in those cases, the sidewalk may bypass the barrier. In that

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread lester
Sent from my android device so the quoting is crap! -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 12:16 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread lester
Sent from my android device so the quoting is crapp! -Original Message- From: OpenStreetmap HADW osmh...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 13:44 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot) On 7

[Talk-GB] Wish LIst for Mapnik Stylesheet (overmapping of private features)

2013-09-07 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
Is there a mechanism for getting requests onto the wish list for the Open Street Map Mapnk style sheets? The particular issue is that now that people can trace quite small features, some areas are getting overloaded with private foot paths and private car parks (not to mention alleys and

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2013-09-07 at 13:43 +0100, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: On 7 September 2013 12:15, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: In that instance isn't there effectively a short footway that runs parallel to the short piece of road that has the barrier on it? Micro-mapping tends

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 7 September 2013 14:46, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Streetmaps do tend to be abstractions of the real world, and openstreetmap ceased to be be a mere streetmap several years ago, and is a far far better map than a mere streetmap can ever be. The word streetmap implies urban,

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread OpenStreetmap HADW
On 7 September 2013 14:36, les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Sent from my android device so the quoting is crapp! -Original Message- From: OpenStreetmap HADW osmh...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 13:44 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and

Re: [Talk-GB] Wish LIst for Mapnik Stylesheet (overmapping of private features)

2013-09-07 Thread Chris Fleming
On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 02:45:51PM +0100, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: Is there a mechanism for getting requests onto the wish list for the Open Street Map Mapnk style sheets? The particular issue is that now that people can trace quite small features, some areas are getting overloaded with

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread lester
Long time discussion but the data is not the map. If a detail is need, such as adding a way to show the pedestrian route around an object, then it should be mapped. Not mapping it leaves gaps in the data. Now replacing the obstruction with a short length of 'footpath' may be an alternative, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread lester
Sent from my android device so the quoting is crap! -Original Message- From: OpenStreetmap HADW osmh...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 15:07 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot) On 7

Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Mixed Access Ways and Barriers (restricted to motor vehicles, open to foot)

2013-09-07 Thread SomeoneElse
OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: In practice, there is only one renderer for general users That's a statement that could provoke some discussion, I suspect. If you have a look at the questions on help.osm.org you'll see lots of why doesn't X do Y type questions, but it isn't always immediately

[Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-07 Thread Tom Chance
I've seen two new users accidentally delete residential landuse areas near me in the past fortnight: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17695130 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17505646 Could this be a problem with the iD editor? Has anyone else noticed it? Tom --

Re: [Talk-GB] iD and accidental landuse deletions

2013-09-07 Thread Lester Caine
Tom Chance wrote: I've seen two new users accidentally delete residential landuse areas near me in the past fortnight: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17695130 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17505646 Could this be a problem with the iD editor? Has anyone else